Go SKT! Group A is a win/win for them right? It's like one is helping the other advance! And then Hyuk is just well, that amazing he can do it on his own.
As for Flash, I hope he takes down Poseidon's Brother, the Cyclops Hydra.
And Jangbi, well I have a feeling zergs scare him right now and Calm will take the win.
Fanta > Soo (dont really care about the result of this team kill match) Flash > Hydra (Flash you MUST MUST MUST win please T_T) Jangbi > Calm Hyuk > Hyvaa
gogo jangbi and hydra!! I wouldnt mind flash getting eliminated so he can take a longer break for his wrist to heal, specially if it means hydra advancing
i guess flash loosing wouldnt mind much since he really needs to rest and, besides, he has already 6 leagues its not like it is his first time, i rather see him, resting for the future than struggling through OSL with his wrist holding him back way more than it already does.
the other games look interesting, i havent watched a pvz game since like a year, i dont know the current pvz state thou i heard its deplorable for protoss still.
i will look for the VODS maybe tomorrow, cause i have to study today for some finals, so i hope to see the next result:
Why?Well Fantasy might be in a huge slump but he pulls through in individual leagues often, Flash vs Hydra could be interesting with the whole Flash practices less debacle but I still think Flash will be able to destroy Hydra.
Calm and Jangbi I hope for Jangbi but the occasional hydra bust ......
Getting a bit worried for Flash, he's had to play 3 games in the last four days and now he's up against Hydra, who's no pushover. This is a trap game even when he's healthy. Atleast it's on La Mancha.
On July 13 2011 09:56 Yxes2211 wrote: Group D will produce the best games
Dohoho, you funny guy. Unless Hive tech I don't really see that happening.
I Liquidbetted (sp?) on Flash, forgetting about his wrist. I am a fan of both Hydra and Flash, and I am quite worried on the outcome, as although they are two of my favorite players, Flash is more favorite to me than Hydra, and Flash may lose. It sucks they're all the in the same group :/.
I think it'll be
(T)Fantasy> (Z)n.Die_soO (This depends on how much soO improves after his infinite ZvT practice and if Fanta recovers from his mega slump. Maybe fanta just practices TvT and drops this game for double whammy win in his group?Who knows. (T)Flash<(Z)Hydra (noooo!, I hope I'm wrong, I liquibetted Flash, but I'm cynical, i really hope his wrists recovered) (Z)Calm<(P)JangBi (Z)hyvaa<(Z)Hyuk
YOU REMOVE THAT CJ AND ZERG ICON RIGHT THIS MINUTE
Fantasy > soo (Obviously torn over this one in the sense of who I'd like to win. I would love to see soo continue to do well and keep up his momentum, but it won't be too beneficial to the team for fanta to continue with his, he really needs that rebound win)
Flash < Hydra (very doable at this point, and given Flash's condition)
A. Fantasy, if he's done sucking B. Flash oh god, please, though Stork and Shine aren't exactly tough targets at the moment C. Toughie, but JangBi's PvZ isn't as good as Calm. Calm will take it. <- Group of Death D. ...Hyuk? JD and Modesty are going to win this group anyway.
I think Fantasy will take down n.Die_soO with a well-prepared (as usual) build. Flash will beat Hydra, yes Flash's wrist isn't in great shape but I still expect him to be able to beat Hydra.
I like Calm over Jangbi, Calm has decent ZvP and usually performs fairly well in individual leagues. Really would like to see Jangbi win though, even as a Zerg fan I'm disappointed about the lack of Protosses in this OSL.
Hyuk over Hyvaa, anything can happen in ZvZ but Hyuk is the better player.
On July 13 2011 17:27 Motivate wrote: omg was this added to the calendar late or something?
I've noticed that a number of times now BW events seem to be added quite late to the calendar. I guess there's just more focus on SC2 by now (which is a shame).
On July 13 2011 17:27 Motivate wrote: omg was this added to the calendar late or something? thought there was no bw on tonight
looks like some awesome matches. all very even. would love to see fantasy destroyed by soo. ZERG PRYDE MFKERS. that and i hate fantasy.
On July 13 2011 11:30 WWJDD wrote: Looking for Flash destroying Hydra using only one hotkeys. (That way his wrist won't be damaged).
interesting coming from oz zerg fan.
I'm surprised that OZ fans are not that supportive of flash considering the nature of their relationship(as being best friends)...
then again its better for one to think for themselves rather than being a hiveminded of some sort.
I like Flash.. and I think alot of Oz (JD) fans are rather neutral towards Flash. Or maybe that's just my view and thinking. But it seems like the fan equation goes something like JD =neutral= Flash but JD + Flash >hate> Bisu and vice versa.
GO FLASH!! get your revenge for your PL loss to hydra :D also hoping for jangbi to win!! and i think fantasy should take his game. i hate team kills lol
Awww man I cant watch this so much wait for the osl and the day it starts its the day I start work and cant watch
Oh well....lets go Flash! You can do it Im also rooting for jangbi...not sure why but lately Im liking his games and want him to advance in this round so...go jangbi!
and why do people keep calling him a terrorist? is it because he takes out big names in the leagues only to eliminate himself (through stupid play) further on?
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
We need both these players in good form for the finals, but right now I think Fanta needs the confidence boost most. I'd prefer it if Fanta just went back to what he's comfortable with in his TvZ - Mech, terrorist Vultures and the occasional strategic Wraith build.
that was pretty bad by both players. Fantasy moving his SCV and marine away from the wall despite seeing the lings and Soo losing all his lings on the one marine
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
Yeah, you lucky Europeans D:
It's 3:46 AM here wtf am I doing T___T
good grief! but i know how you feel, thats basically what it's usually for us ;P better have your coffe ready!
~~~
haha, soO bringing the FOOD!
On July 13 2011 19:51 Spica wrote: It would be kind of ironic if the defending champion got knocked out with all cheese builds
on the other hand that should be the only way to knoch out a champ (damn you fanta and your PL slump...better be a setup to pwn the finals)
On July 13 2011 19:50 Ikonn wrote: that was pretty bad by both players. Fantasy moving his SCV and marine away from the wall despite seeing the lings and Soo losing all his lings on the one marine
well, there were 2 marines and a lot of scvs tanking
he actually did well to take out the first
1 vulture on the way - guess my stream behind? 2nd factory, 1st shop, and armory too
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
Yeah, you lucky Europeans D:
It's 3:46 AM here wtf am I doing T___T
What are you talking about? Only 5am and maybe 6am is viable for Europeans because later, there is always work/school. Late evening/night is much better because you can just adjust your sleep schedule.
On July 13 2011 19:50 Ikonn wrote: that was pretty bad by both players. Fantasy moving his SCV and marine away from the wall despite seeing the lings and Soo losing all his lings on the one marine
well, there were 2 marines and a lot of scvs tanking
he actually did well to take out the first
sure but the one he right-clicked on was shielded by a bunch of SCV's, maybe with a little micro he wouldn't have lost those 5 remaining lings for that one marine
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
Yeah, you lucky Europeans D:
It's 3:46 AM here wtf am I doing T___T
What are you talking about? Only 5am and maybe 6am is viable for Europeans because later, there is always work/school. Late evening/night is much better because you can just adjust your sleep schedule.
you forgot lazy university students
university ftw <3
(also around this time you should be able to get a break and watch, gotta be a bit brainy to watch BW yo~)
On July 13 2011 19:38 Spica wrote: Lol wth was that Fantasy
terrorist! that's what that was ;P
if SC2 can have ObamaToss, we have soObama-Zerg, SOO HAITING
Ah yes, you're here cause Soo's playing! As expected from Soo's #1 fan. |D
but of course! <3
well i watch most matches but have to stay up usually and then i'm way too tired to keep up with frantic TL-threads ^^ but you're well versed in enduring these threads tired i see ^^
this time it's really nice to watch for europeans!
Yeah, you lucky Europeans D:
It's 3:46 AM here wtf am I doing T___T
What are you talking about? Only 5am and maybe 6am is viable for Europeans because later, there is always work/school. Late evening/night is much better because you can just adjust your sleep schedule.
On July 13 2011 20:00 krndandaman wrote: soo really had no choice but to attack though. hes a 4base zerg now vs 3base terran with 2/1 upgrades
he was gonna lose unless he stopped that 3rd.
He mistimed his attack, needed to attack 2 minutes earlier when Fantasy didn't have 8 tanks in a defensive position, only 3, and was making a CC. Although that attack would have probably ended up in the same way.
1. Fanta's going back to his roots. 2. SoO's drawing it out so that Fanta gets confidence. 3. SoO uses Queens to overcome Fanta's fear of them following his recent maulings. 4. Fanta goes on a good OSL run and is ready for Shanghai!
On July 13 2011 20:00 tomatriedes wrote: This map looks impossible for ZvT.
anything looks impossible for zerg when you fail with 6/7 pool
Look at the map stats though, not looking too good for the swarm:
TvZ: 9-4 (69.2%)
He probably went for that 7 pool out of desperation.
lol map stats that early don't really mean much
la mancha was apparently really bad for zerg with a lot of zergs choosing to 4 pool on it. but now it's close to 50%. may just be because of all the scrub terrans failing at prelims though
On July 13 2011 20:06 Special Tactics wrote: What were those queens for? Sorry sc2 noob here
They have a spell called Spawn Broodling which can instantly kill siege tanks. It then creates 2 broodlings which the other tanks then attack and then the splash can kill more tanks
Was it just me? I get the impression that Fanta could have ended Soo from the start, but he didnt want to end his 1st victory in a while so quickly (that or he doesnt want Soo to lose in such a manner), so he needlessly dragged the game out and finished it later, like he did.
On July 13 2011 20:10 ffreakk wrote: Nooo wheres Nanashin!! T_T
Was it just me? I get the impression that Fanta could have ended Soo from the start, but he didnt want to end his 1st victory in a while so quickly (that or he doesnt want Soo to lose in such a manner), so he needlessly dragged the game out and finished it later, like he did.
You'd be wrong. Fantasy doesn't understand TvZ, so he just makes a lot of stuff and hopes for the best. He's pretty good at that part though.
On July 13 2011 20:08 Elroi wrote: Soo was soooo horrible that game. Everything he did made no sens.
well if you fail that early cheese you can either insta-gg out like a fool (*cough* idra */cough*) or sit there and wait for the other guy to kill you...at least soo tried and fanta just took his time to mech-max and go kill him...
gotta see it as them dicking around more than a super serious match then...;P
On July 13 2011 20:10 ffreakk wrote: Nooo wheres Nanashin!! T_T
Was it just me? I get the impression that Fanta could have ended Soo from the start, but he didnt want to end his 1st victory in a while so quickly (that or he doesnt want Soo to lose in such a manner), so he needlessly dragged the game out and finished it later, like he did.
You'd be wrong. Fantasy doesn't understand TvZ, so he just makes a lot of stuff and hopes for the best. He's pretty good at that part though.
Fine, whatever.. Now onto the guy who actually understands TvZ...
On July 13 2011 20:12 rslee wrote: 7pool: he was desperate on a close to 70% TvZ map but he didn't want to 4/5 pool a teammate; especially a hyung.
200/200: He knew he won but he didn't want to end one of his teammate's (younger) first Ro16 games..
My take on it..
I don't think it is a good idea to call the map 70% TvZ before we have seen even 15 games on it. I'm sure Jaedong will turn it into a terran graveyard.
On July 13 2011 20:12 rslee wrote: 7pool: he was desperate on a close to 70% TvZ map but he didn't want to 4/5 pool a teammate; especially a hyung.
200/200: He knew he won but he didn't want to end one of his teammate's (younger) first Ro16 games..
My take on it..
I don't think it is a good idea to call the map 70% TvZ before we have seen even 15 games on it. I'm sure Jaedong will turn it into a terran graveyard.
bloody ridge was something like 60% tvp when it was first introduced
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
Low APM affects TvZ the most, so you're sort of right. But Flash is Flash and he can easily just do a goliath all-in or something if he feels the need to.
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
On July 13 2011 20:23 Special Tactics wrote: Is it true TvZ is the best MU in BW?
Define best.
I think it's the most entertaining because there's so much stuff happening all over the place in the late-game (when T goes Bio), really chaotic and awesome. ^__^
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
On July 13 2011 20:23 Special Tactics wrote: Is it true TvZ is the best MU in BW?
Define best.
I think it's the most entertaining because there's so much stuff happening all over the place in the late-game (when T goes Bio), really chaotic and awesome. ^__^
tvz when terran goes BIO is the most apm intensive and exciting games to watch
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
because flash is a very honest person on his interviews.
On July 13 2011 20:23 Special Tactics wrote: Is it true TvZ is the best MU in BW?
Watch this game and make your own opinion!
I checked the TLPD, both are champions. Interesting...
keep in mind though that hydra's championship match was ZvZ and Flash's TvZ...hydra will still be hard pressed to overcome TvZ imba (omg imba imba, somebody call david kim to SC:BW)
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
Flash with practise absolutely steamrolled two of the best players in the game 6-0, but then he loses all over the place. It isn't really easy to explain.
On July 13 2011 20:14 aupstar wrote: lol hydra thumbs down....that's pretty badass after getting 3:0 by Flash in MSL.
Though, he does have a chance this time due to Flash's wrist probs.
Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
On July 13 2011 20:16 Spica wrote: [quote] Please don't blame anything on Flash's injury
I mean, he did 3:0 him outta the MSL with it. :/
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I don't see why not..He's had to decrease his practice time because of it after he won the finals.
He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
On July 13 2011 20:18 Spica wrote: [quote] He'll get around it by focusing more on builds that require less APM, just like did a while ago.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
exactly,both of you should drop it.
spica I know you are bitter over this game,but don't worry,shin dong will beat the other 2.
On July 13 2011 20:35 revy wrote: I'm not sure I understand Hydra's opening: pool+6lings before expo -> double expo/3 hatch muta.
He had to know that his lurkers would be way to slow to ever save the 3rd from Flash of all people.
I think the early pool was supposed to do more than minor damage to Flash's supply depot. After that he made the quick third base to try to get back into the game, but obviously Flash's timing is way too good to let that go, and he obviously guessed it was there after scouting how little Hydra had in his base.
On July 13 2011 20:35 Dakkas wrote: That was a stomp, looks like Jaedong can take a sigh of relief atop his throne
Zero is on a streak right now though and got second place in the last MSL as well. So, he is probably the bigger threat(even without being in the OSL).
Perhaps, but this is sc...not sc2...low apm still hurts.
If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Jesus Christ. Arguments like this are the reason why I have such a low opinion of these boards.
On July 13 2011 20:34 Special Tactics wrote: Zerg on 2 base is normal in BW? Is this single round elimination?
The only matchup where Zerg dont (try to) get an early 3rd is mirror, where its either 1 or 2 base play most of the time.
vP: Zerg almost always get a very early 3rd (double expand off Overpool seems to be the most common variation nowadays).
vT: Zerg will try to get a 3rd while keeping T busy at home w Muta... Holding that 3rd is the challenge though, probably the most key point in early game TvZ as far as i know.
On July 13 2011 20:34 Special Tactics wrote: Zerg on 2 base is normal in BW? Is this single round elimination?
it's round robin play between 4 players in a group
and being on 2 base is "normal" after your 3rd gets destroyed
So, this is 1 group playing now? Are all the games in this to be played today?
There are six days of play. On each day one game from each of the four groups is played. There are two more games today, one for Group C and one for Group D.
Hydra was clearly hoping for a 14CC from Flash. When that didn't work out, he needed to double expand to catch up. His failure was to go for mutas and not lurkers. You need to out-turtle the turtle-terran when you're behind against him.
But really, Hydra lost as soon as he did that 9pool.
On July 13 2011 20:21 Spica wrote: [quote] If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Jesus Christ. Arguments like this are the reason why I have such a low opinion of these boards.
On July 13 2011 20:35 revy wrote: I'm not sure I understand Hydra's opening: pool+6lings before expo -> double expo/3 hatch muta.
He had to know that his lurkers would be way to slow to ever save the 3rd from Flash of all people.
I think the early pool was supposed to do more than minor damage to Flash's supply depot. After that he made the quick third base to try to get back into the game, but obviously Flash's timing is way too good to let that go, and he obviously guessed it was there after scouting how little Hydra had in his base.
This makes sense, but I would figure if you're that far behind from the failed ling aggression that you would skip muta. Your muta clearly aren't going to harass the base and I would much prefer a few lurkers on the 3rd's ramp to stop a Flash pushout.
On July 13 2011 20:35 revy wrote: I'm not sure I understand Hydra's opening: pool+6lings before expo -> double expo/3 hatch muta.
He had to know that his lurkers would be way to slow to ever save the 3rd from Flash of all people.
hmm wonder if he doesn't want to show builds before a possible ace vs Flash in PL... Because that was just bad against a player like Flash. Flash won that without doing any spectacularly executed micro etc (it even looked a tiny bit sloppy). He just won with pure understanding of the weak points in hydra's build. Atleast that's how I understood it.
I hope the next game will be a little bit less shitty than the first two. And then there is only a random zvz left :/
On July 13 2011 20:21 Spica wrote: [quote] If low APM hurts, then pretty much everything will hurt for Flash. o_O
Anyway, he said he's fine a million times, and that he doesn't want his fans to worry that much about his wrist.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Jesus Christ. Arguments like this are the reason why I have such a low opinion of these boards.
Jaedong and Flash just make everyone else look like morons when they go against them. Hydra tried to catch Flash off guard. Flash responded by unceremoniously ripping him appart, brutally exploiting every weakness available. Good times.
Hydra should have tried to backstab with his muta and not tried to defend his third base. If he just barged in when there were so few turrets and took control of the 5-rax he had a chance. Big if, but that was his chance.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Jesus Christ. Arguments like this are the reason why I have such a low opinion of these boards.
Suggest some better "boards", then
You are really confrontation seeking today, aren't you? Less grumpiness, more happiness, you are likely to get 2 SKT victories today.
I don't know if you can just discard all the after game interviews where he's complained about his wrists or the rehab time or the reduced practising time.
And look at all the games he's lost because of it...his record vs zerg looks almost as bad as fantasy.
Of course he'll complain, because his wrist hurts.
And how do you know that he lost those games because of his wrist or reduced practice time?
How do you know it wasn't because of that?
Lol.
I don't see why Flash fans have to blame losses on his wrist injury... Maybe the opponent just played a bit better and with a bit of luck, won.
It's fact...he has a wrist injury..you can't deny it.
Then maybe his opponents lost because they were sick and couldn't play at their usual level, yes?
I think my point has been made...there's no point arguing with you if you're going to create fallacies like his opponents were sick..
Fact...he has a wrist injury..learn to lose an argument.
The same goes for you, no? We don't know for fact if Flash really loses his games solely due to his wrist injury.
Jesus Christ. Arguments like this are the reason why I have such a low opinion of these boards.
Suggest some better "boards", then
No.
And I'm not going to add another post to this retarded thread.
On July 13 2011 20:42 WWJDD wrote: Hydra should have tried to backstab with his muta and not tried to defend his third base. If he just barged in when there were so few turrets and took control of the 5-rax he had a chance. Big if, but that was his chance.
I guarantee you 100% that would not have worked out well at all.
On July 13 2011 20:41 revy wrote: This makes sense, but I would figure if you're that far behind from the failed ling aggression that you would skip muta. Your muta clearly aren't going to harass the base and I would much prefer a few lurkers on the 3rd's ramp to stop a Flash pushout.
Maybe, but I think Hydra has more confidence in his muta micro than anything else, and he might have been banking on killing or weakening Flash's push with mutaling, maybe even taking into account that Flash's micro might be worse since he hasn't been practicing as much lately. I think Flash would have scanned a fast den and then just mnm/tank pushed whatever base he wanted given that defilers would definitely not have been in time.
It was a decent game by Flash for sure but you really need a miracle or be much better than your opponent to come back from a build order disadvantage as a Zerg against a Terran.
I dont hate Kpop, but i do hate Bubble Pop (the song playing atm) T_T
yah new hyuna song is not go...it's just not anything... k-pop industry is ot different from any other pop industry though so i don't get the (directed) hate
On July 13 2011 20:42 WWJDD wrote: Hydra should have tried to backstab with his muta and not tried to defend his third base. If he just barged in when there were so few turrets and took control of the 5-rax he had a chance. Big if, but that was his chance.
I guarantee you 100% that would not have worked out well at all.
At that point Hydra was so behind all he could do was stall for lurkers. 4 lurker on the ramp may have saved his base. He could have sacrificed his mutas to get lurkers up. Again not fool-proof, but better chance than splitting his forces between his natural and third and getting stomped at both places.
On July 13 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote: Hydra was clearly hoping for a 14CC from Flash. When that didn't work out, he needed to double expand to catch up. His failure was to go for mutas and not lurkers. You need to out-turtle the turtle-terran when you're behind against him.
But really, Hydra lost as soon as he did that 9pool.
When someone with 2000 posts still calls Flash turtle terran it's either pure ignorance or pure trolling. Either way it is completely unnecessary to include such a sentence in an otherwise potentially helpful opinion.
On July 13 2011 20:42 WWJDD wrote: Hydra should have tried to backstab with his muta and not tried to defend his third base. If he just barged in when there were so few turrets and took control of the 5-rax he had a chance. Big if, but that was his chance.
I guarantee you 100% that would not have worked out well at all.
At that point Hydra was so behind all he could do was stall for lurkers. 4 lurker on the ramp may have saved his base. He could have sacrificed his mutas to get lurkers up. Again not fool-proof, but better chance than splitting his forces between his natural and third and getting stomped at both places.
Did you see the reinforcements Flash came out with all the time? Flash would've killed the third AND defended himself.
On July 13 2011 20:41 revy wrote: This makes sense, but I would figure if you're that far behind from the failed ling aggression that you would skip muta. Your muta clearly aren't going to harass the base and I would much prefer a few lurkers on the 3rd's ramp to stop a Flash pushout.
Maybe, but I think Hydra has more confidence in his muta micro than anything else, and he might have been banking on killing or weakening Flash's push with mutaling, maybe even taking into account that Flash's micro might be worse since he hasn't been practicing as much lately. I think Flash would have scanned a fast den and then just mnm/tank pushed whatever base he wanted given that defilers would definitely not have been in time.
Unfortunately, as JD showed us from his sucky ZvZ and mind-blowing TvT mutalingvZ =/= mutalingvT. Hydra can't mutaling to save his ass vT.
On July 13 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote: Hydra was clearly hoping for a 14CC from Flash. When that didn't work out, he needed to double expand to catch up. His failure was to go for mutas and not lurkers. You need to out-turtle the turtle-terran when you're behind against him.
But really, Hydra lost as soon as he did that 9pool.
Come on Flash's game was all about pressure, no turtling for sure. I do agree with your other comment though I don't think he would have been able to catch up going lurkers we all saw what happened in the semis on that same map with his lurkers. Nowadays if you are behind against an S class player it's not possible to come back. That's why the BO are so important.
On July 13 2011 20:43 sixfour wrote: it takes 466 average apm to fail like that?
JD had like 500 APM against Sea and failed
Back in KA 2 OSL XD
heh, was that the game where he was on that really stupid abusive ZvT map and still failed?
Dreamliner is only abusive in ZvT when the zerg spawns at the 3 o'clock position and they do a 2 hatch muta. JD got the 6 o'clock position in that game and it's extremely difficult to secure a 3rd gas on Dreamliner, i.e. if you want to play a normal game. It was a stupid map and I'm glad it's out of the rotation. Granted, he didn't win but the map was retarded, not his plan.
On July 13 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote: Hydra was clearly hoping for a 14CC from Flash. When that didn't work out, he needed to double expand to catch up. His failure was to go for mutas and not lurkers. You need to out-turtle the turtle-terran when you're behind against him.
But really, Hydra lost as soon as he did that 9pool.
Come on Flash's game was all about pressure, no turtling for sure. I do agree with your other comment though I don't think he would have been able to catch up going lurkers we all saw what happened in the semis on that same map with his lurkers. Nowadays if you are behind against an S class player it's not possible to come back. That's why the BO are so important.
One of Flash's nicknames (at least one of the more malicious/fun ones) is the turtle-terran. It's a compliment, if anything, since it's one of the things that has allowed him to be so successful. And yes, I know he didn't turtle in this game
Clam's OL is heading towards Jangbi's location to start Ohh hello supply and mineral count on screen all the time <3 Jangbi's first pylon in the main o.o
2 gate opener from Jangbi :O Going to be scouting Clam last 12pool? Clams lings are out; OL is scouting everything No gas for Jangbi Was that Stork earlier?
On July 13 2011 20:54 Special Tactics wrote: Just curious, is PvZ in BW also a bit imba?
Traditionally, it's T>Z>P>T, but BW is a game balanced with proper maps, not balance changes, so it changes from seasson to season. Any race has a winning chance and the better player wins, though.
Lair morphing Scouts the Den, and the hydras Adding 2 gates, 4 total Lings poke into the wall a little bit 5th hatch at the 3rd base for CLam Archives is warping in 68-82 You need cannons!! +1 complete for Jangbi Hydraling attack is pushing All lings die off Now Jangbi is forced to use his probes Only 4 cannons left 50-51 after that HT are now out
Lurkers are out Jangbi uses a storm on a lurker, and gets quite a few htdras with a second Clam is reinforcing with more Hydras Only 3 cannons at the nat Archon is being morphed Robotics is warping in Archon and a bunch of zealots go down GG from Jangbi. Oh Clam how I... ><
The only person happy. Again. It has a bittersweet feeling to it, but I guess I shouldn't hope for advancement yet. Time to see the Evil Empire crush some of my hopes today again.
On July 13 2011 21:06 Zona wrote: Wow that brief PvZ tear from Jangbi - it's completely over?
He looks a bit stunned in the waiting room.
Jaedong broke his spirit with zerg imba. Then Zero and Soulkey snorted the pieces of spirit. Now Calm has finished up the remains. He'll be back though, I'm sure.
Hyuk lets go, that last match was painful to watch, even though I was practically half asleep. The way these groups work is that either one or two players advance either winning 3-0 or 2-1 2-1 right?
On July 13 2011 21:09 X10A wrote: Hyuk lets go, that last match was painful to watch, even though I was practically half asleep. The way these groups work is that either one or two players advance either winning 3-0 or 2-1 2-1 right?
yep but sometimes we get tiebreakers (3x 2-1, or 3x 1-2) that can get repeated!
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
On July 13 2011 21:09 X10A wrote: Hyuk lets go, that last match was painful to watch, even though I was practically half asleep. The way these groups work is that either one or two players advance either winning 3-0 or 2-1 2-1 right?
It's possible to advance with 1-2 if there's a 3-way tie for second and you win the tiebreaker.
On July 13 2011 21:09 X10A wrote: Hyuk lets go, that last match was painful to watch, even though I was practically half asleep. The way these groups work is that either one or two players advance either winning 3-0 or 2-1 2-1 right?
yep but sometimes we get tiebreakers (3x 2-1, or 3x 1-2) that can get repeated!
Of course, how could I forget last year... lmao Those 7 hour longs tie breakers
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
well the eras of boxer, oov, nada...
it wasn't anywhere near as bad back then
oov was hated, but no one blamed the terran race. some posts from back then were so hilarious. i remember a topic along the lines of "can anyone show me a game where iloveoov loses?"
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
well the eras of boxer, oov, nada...
yeah i wasn't around but i imagine there was quite some cursing going on, thy even labeled oov cheater, i mean c'mon! ;P
now to revenge bisu, even though they were beutiful beutiful games
On July 13 2011 21:08 rebdomine wrote: Jangbi back to slump mode?
Anwyay, it is Hyuk time now. Hyuk fighting!!!
I would call it slump... his last 4 losses are combination of WJN Zerg brothers and hydra busts...
or a combination of hydra busts and hydra busts
hydra busts are really, really lame. I wish I wouldn't see them any more
C'mon protoss, you have to react better than this... stop being so greedy and make more cannons
protoss pisses me off. bisu and movie have both shown it's a very possible match up. fucking best, stork and co. too focused on pvt which is already well established.
On July 13 2011 21:15 Hyde wrote: Even with that fist up, Hyuk is only capable of one expression
Surprisingly he's known as a real joker at SKT house. Maybe he's just shy. lol
~18 months ago he didn't always look so depressed in public.
I don't remember if it was that time exactly but a TL member posted what was supposed to be an IM conversation with Hyuk that was galleried almost immediately, it was a depressing read.
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
actually it was, not much. but protoss was (still is? iono) considered the weak race. i remember people kept saying that if nalra had chosen zerg or terran instead of Protoss, we wouldve done a lot more. Not that i agree with any of it, but im just saying
On July 13 2011 21:15 Hyde wrote: Even with that fist up, Hyuk is only capable of one expression
Surprisingly he's known as a real joker at SKT house. Maybe he's just shy. lol
~18 months ago he didn't always look so depressed in public.
I don't remember if it was that time exactly but a TL member posted what was supposed to be an IM conversation with Hyuk that was galleried almost immediately, it was a depressing read.
Yeah, I remember that conversation. Hyuk really started to progress in individual leagues after that was posted and the fan cafe on TL was created.
We're starting This intro, kind of makes me lul, I dunno if its just me being sleepy Well here we go Hyuk red zerg at 1 Hyvaa brown zerg at 7... YELLOW Hate you color change
On July 13 2011 21:15 Hyde wrote: Even with that fist up, Hyuk is only capable of one expression
Surprisingly he's known as a real joker at SKT house. Maybe he's just shy. lol
You have to do a blog like you do for MBC but for SKT :3 pretttttty plllllleaaaaaaaaaaaaase :D
Fantasy mentioned that at one of the OSL group selection events. Hyuk has a "chic image" that conflicts with his "prankster" personality was what he said. I remember Hyuk saying in one interview that he talks at least as much as Best, who can supposedly blabber non-stop during the 10-15mins it takes the players to walk from the dorm to the practice house.
Hyvaa going to ninja his 2nd expo at 8 oclock His lings are out Hyuks pool completes now Starts lair as soon as it finishes Gas only being taken now for Hyvaa His lings are moving out Both players on either side of the choke blocking it Hyuk pulled off a drone
On July 13 2011 21:15 Hyde wrote: Even with that fist up, Hyuk is only capable of one expression
Surprisingly he's known as a real joker at SKT house. Maybe he's just shy. lol
You have to do a blog like you do for MBC but for SKT :3 pretttttty plllllleaaaaaaaaaaaaase :D
Fantasy mentioned that at one of the OSL group selection events. Hyuk has a "chic image" that conflicts with his "prankster" personality was what he said. I remember Hyuk saying in one interview that he talks at least as much as Best, who can supposedly blabber non-stop during the 10-15mins it takes the players to walk from the dorm to the practice house.
and all that totally conflicts with the image I have of him hahaha, yeah he must be camera shy Even during that OSL selection ceremony he seems pretty reserved thanks for that tidbit
Hyuk's OL is going to spot the 2nd expo Lair complete for Hyvaa Spire starts for him, as soon as Hyuk's is complete Lots of lings for Hyvaa, he pokes into the wall He has alot more rallied Hyuk has 3 mutas out, to alot of lings in his mineral line 14-15 supply Is ling speed researched for Hyvaa? I can't ever tell
I was just about to complain that Zerg players never challenge poor spore positioning even when they could get tons of drones. I didn't think that Hyuk of all people would break the mold.
On July 13 2011 21:20 Milkis wrote: I just woke up, opened stream, checked results to find out who is playing next and closed the stream.
The sad thing is, there's a significant chance this will be the best game of the day.
Wait, what?
Did Hydra get demolished by Flash again?
Hydra went 9pool, did no damage, and then basically got run over by a 5rax before fac timing that hit before lurkers.
Hydra is that bad at ZvT? Geez.
Wow, Hyvaa looks sharp today :O
Well, he actually lost his third to the 5rax, then got dropped in the main to actually get finished off, but yeah, basically. I don't think Flash ever bothered to build a vessel.
On July 13 2011 21:20 Milkis wrote: I just woke up, opened stream, checked results to find out who is playing next and closed the stream.
The sad thing is, there's a significant chance this will be the best game of the day.
Wait, what?
Did Hydra get demolished by Flash again?
Hydra went 9pool, did no damage, and then basically got run over by a 5rax before fac timing that hit before lurkers.
Hydra is that bad at ZvT? Geez.
Wow, Hyvaa looks sharp today :O
Well, he actually lost his third to the 5rax, then got dropped in the main to actually get finished off, but yeah, basically. I don't think Flash ever bothered to build a vessel.
He did. It revealed a lurker in front of his nat that a tank proceeded to pung-pung to death.
On July 13 2011 21:39 Shurayuki wrote: will all days be split up between the groups? i never liked that, at least the last matches should be on the same day
(wtf i keep omitting words >_>)
tomorrow soO will show ya'll guys what it means to mess with the president, and bring some more food <3
It's the same format all 6 days. If there are tiebreakers, they're all played on one extra day.
On July 13 2011 21:39 Shurayuki wrote: will all days be split up between the groups? i never liked that, at least the last matches should be on the same day
(wtf i keep omitting words >_>)
tomorrow soO will show ya'll guys what it means to mess with the president, and bring some more food <3
It's the same format all 6 days. If there are tiebreakers, they're all played on one extra day.
thanks damn
yeah i know that i remember the last...that was...interesting (though watching players i actually cheered for for hours would be fun)
On July 13 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote: When will Hyuk smile in a live broadcast...
oh he'll smile alright when he kicks Flash out of OSL (i don't even know if thats possible with the groups, but...yeah!) muahaha!
On July 13 2011 21:53 reincremate wrote: Forgot to wake up for this, but seeing the recommendations, I'm glad I didn't.
well certainly there weren't any real good matches today, but even bad BW is better than no BW, now to fill the void 'till tomorrow... also as a rolster you might enjoy the flash game atleast
(thankfully the steam summer sales decked me out...and emptied out my bank account )
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
You must have missed all that whining about Tanks. Omg, I still remember that there was a time (around 2008) that whichever map would come out some people would be saying "tanks will be so imba on this map" .
Group C = Group of death, seriously. JangBi, Killer, Calm, BaBy!
Why C? Flash, Stork and Hydra in the same group to me look a lot more like a death group. All the 4 players from group C are good players but all of them have some kind of problem or major inconsistency.
Group C = Group of death, seriously. JangBi, Killer, Calm, BaBy!
Why C? Flash, Stork and Hydra in the same group to me look a lot more like a death group. All the 4 players from group C are good players but all of them have some kind of problem or major inconsistency.
Stork is slumping. Flash's hand is out, and he still won against Hydra. And Shine is...Shine. ON the surface, Group B does look death-ey, but it's really not.
On July 13 2011 21:10 champignones wrote: i hate blizzard, you give terran a great unit you can mass no problemo, and what you give the protoss?....just shame.
what unit?
i swear this imba terran talk was never around before 2010 (when flash first started to dominate everything and sc2 came out)
You must have missed all that whining about Tanks. Omg, I still remember that there was a time (around 2008) that whichever map would come out some people would be saying "tanks will be so imba on this map" .
So happy that Flash won!
2008? I see such remarks on all new maps lol. But the truth is that the most laughable examples are gone (like Battle Royale).
On July 13 2011 21:53 reincremate wrote: Forgot to wake up for this, but seeing the recommendations, I'm glad I didn't.
well certainly there weren't any real good matches today, but even bad BW is better than no BW, now to fill the void 'till tomorrow... also as a rolster you might enjoy the flash game atleast
(thankfully the steam summer sales decked me out...and emptied out my bank account )
Yeah, I still watch the VODs of most Flash games regardless of recommendations. Living in a time zone like EST (like a lot of people on TL do) is usually kind of inconvenient for staying up/waking up when you have school and work and other crap, so I'm glad when I don't miss any super-awesome games. Also moktira usually is able to find and upload VODs speedily.
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Im also rooting for jangbi...not sure why but lately Im liking his games and want him to advance in this round so...go jangbi!
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