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On July 31 2011 16:28 dRaW wrote:+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://wallpapersgallery.net/d/1182376-2/The-Lion-King-111-2.jpg) The King has returned. So when do you post the screen shot showing who qualified? The OP was very ambiguous (the end of July 31st, yet ended @ the end of the 30th).
It started the 1st at 0001 EDT/0601 CET and ended the 31st at the same time. I understand how some people didn't get it, but it's a logical ending. The screenshots will be released August 2nd, as well as the groups pending replays.
Yes, that means you need to send in all of your replays by August 2nd
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But those are the rules that obligate players in the team and since u didnt add me to the team (in that time) u can not kick me for what I did, NOT PLAYING ISL2/ NOT BEEING A PART OF THE TEAM. After that i've started with 0/0/0 stats and u accepted me and after I made B+ u decided to kick me. Game dont u see that u kicked me for what i've done not playing ISL2? I will write it down,
1) i requested to join at ISL2-Mazur.nB nickname
2) when admins checked i had 5;1 stats so they didnt accept me
3) after making B i've chcecked the ladder and i didnt see my self
4) In answer to my message admins told me that Im not in the team
5) I transferd my stats <--- this is important IM NOT IN THE TEAM/LEAUGE SO THE RULES DONT OBLIGATE ME TO TRANSFER OR NOT TRANSFER MY STATS
6) with 0/0/0 i requested to join and admins accept me
7) I made B+
8) day before the ladder ends i've checked the ladder and i didnt see my self.
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On July 31 2011 17:11 Mazur wrote:
But those are the rules that obligate players in the team and since u didnt add me to the team (in that time) u can not kick me for what I did, NOT PLAYING ISL2/ NOT BEEING A PART OF THE TEAM. After that i've started with 0/0/0 stats and u accepted me and after I made B+ u decided to kick me. Game dont u see that u kicked me for what i've done not playing ISL2? I will write it down,
1) i requested to join at ISL2-Mazur.nB nickname
2) when admins checked i had 5;1 stats so they didnt accept me
3) after making B i've chcecked the ladder and i didnt see my self
4) In answer to my message admins told me that Im not in the team
5) I transferd my stats <--- this is important IM NOT IN THE TEAM/LEAUGE SO THE RULES DONT OBLIGATE ME TO TRANSFER OR NOT TRANSFER MY STATS
6) with 0/0/0 i requested to join and admins accept me
7) I made B+
8) day before the ladder ends i've checked the ladder and i didnt see my self.
Last post repeating the same rule:
"8) Stats: You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account and you cannot transfer from your ISL2 account."
Please note that this does not say "You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account while your ISL2 account is in the team and you cannot transfer from your ISL account while your ISL2 account is in the team."
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On July 31 2011 18:02 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 17:11 Mazur wrote:
But those are the rules that obligate players in the team and since u didnt add me to the team (in that time) u can not kick me for what I did, NOT PLAYING ISL2/ NOT BEEING A PART OF THE TEAM. After that i've started with 0/0/0 stats and u accepted me and after I made B+ u decided to kick me. Game dont u see that u kicked me for what i've done not playing ISL2? I will write it down,
1) i requested to join at ISL2-Mazur.nB nickname
2) when admins checked i had 5;1 stats so they didnt accept me
3) after making B i've chcecked the ladder and i didnt see my self
4) In answer to my message admins told me that Im not in the team
5) I transferd my stats <--- this is important IM NOT IN THE TEAM/LEAUGE SO THE RULES DONT OBLIGATE ME TO TRANSFER OR NOT TRANSFER MY STATS
6) with 0/0/0 i requested to join and admins accept me
7) I made B+
8) day before the ladder ends i've checked the ladder and i didnt see my self.
Last post repeating the same rule: "8) Stats: You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account and you cannot transfer from your ISL2 account."Please note that this does not say "You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account while your ISL2 account is in the team and you cannot transfer from your ISL account while your ISL2 account is in the team."
Hahaha you cant answer to a question ??? How u can ban him for doing something when he wasnt in the Team ISL2 ???? no offence Game are u retarded ? or what ? cuz i think someone is scared that Mazur can win ISL2 and disslike him much so u ban him !
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On July 31 2011 18:19 SpeedCore wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 18:02 Game wrote:On July 31 2011 17:11 Mazur wrote:
But those are the rules that obligate players in the team and since u didnt add me to the team (in that time) u can not kick me for what I did, NOT PLAYING ISL2/ NOT BEEING A PART OF THE TEAM. After that i've started with 0/0/0 stats and u accepted me and after I made B+ u decided to kick me. Game dont u see that u kicked me for what i've done not playing ISL2? I will write it down,
1) i requested to join at ISL2-Mazur.nB nickname
2) when admins checked i had 5;1 stats so they didnt accept me
3) after making B i've chcecked the ladder and i didnt see my self
4) In answer to my message admins told me that Im not in the team
5) I transferd my stats <--- this is important IM NOT IN THE TEAM/LEAUGE SO THE RULES DONT OBLIGATE ME TO TRANSFER OR NOT TRANSFER MY STATS
6) with 0/0/0 i requested to join and admins accept me
7) I made B+
8) day before the ladder ends i've checked the ladder and i didnt see my self.
Last post repeating the same rule: "8) Stats: You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account and you cannot transfer from your ISL2 account."Please note that this does not say "You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account while your ISL2 account is in the team and you cannot transfer from your ISL account while your ISL2 account is in the team." Hahaha you cant answer to a question ??? How u can ban him for doing something when he wasnt in the Team ISL2 ???? no offence Game are u retarded ? or what ? cuz i think someone is scared that Mazur can win ISL2 and disslike him much so u ban him !
Good thing I'm retarded, otherwise I might care what you think. However, if you actually read the post you quoted word for word... you'd get it.
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if you are kicked from the team its not your ISL2 account anymore. Its only your ISL2 account if you are on the team. I could make an account called ISL2_FUALL and transfer on and off that account as I please.
But what I'm wondering most about is, who made that decision about mazur? Is it you? Because the rules state that LRM)nOoNe holds last decisions.
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but the silly thing is that u accepted me and i didnt break any rulle when i've playd ISL2 -.-
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LOL breaking a rulle sounds really serius, but could we remeber that it was TRANSFER STATS to a team accout -.-
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On July 31 2011 18:24 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
if you are kicked from the team its not your ISL2 account anymore. Its only your ISL2 account if you are on the team. I could make an account called ISL2_FUALL and transfer on and off that account as I please.
But what I'm wondering most about is, who made that decision about mazur? Is it you? Because the rules state that LRM)nOoNe holds last decisions.
You want to know what actually happened behind the scenes?
We changed the organizer to nOoNe on the OP because iCCup didn't want Game involved in a tournament that 'ran' on iCCup. In reality, Game was running the tournament behind the scene.
I hope this explains some parts, if not everything.
And that ISL2 account thing: If you made a name with ISL2 tag in it, it will be considered ISL2 account, accepted into the team or not. We (the team) have a choice to accept the player based on their past history and their name (smurf).
But you don't break the rule by transferring from ISL2 tag to another ISL2 tag. KTHNX.
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On July 31 2011 18:29 Mazur wrote:
but the silly thing is that u accepted me and i didnt break any rulle when i've playd ISL2 -.-
Yep you should told him at start to make new ISL2 Acc or something its weird that 1 day before ISL ends u tell that all players on Iccup should obey ISL2 rulez cuz they can made ISL2 acc (but not be in a team ISL ) and transfer stats all the time but rule says they cant !
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On July 31 2011 19:00 SpeedCore wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 18:29 Mazur wrote:
but the silly thing is that u accepted me and i didnt break any rulle when i've playd ISL2 -.- Yep you should told him at start to make new ISL2 Acc or something its weird that 1 day before ISL ends u tell that all players on Iccup should obey ISL2 rulez cuz they can made ISL2 acc (but not be in a team ISL ) and transfer stats all the time but rule says they cant !
I understand you're trying to lobby for your friend or idol or whatever he is to you... but what?
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And that ISL2 account thing: If you made a name with ISL2 tag in it, it will be considered ISL2 account, accepted into the team or not. We (the team) have a choice to accept the player based on their past history and their name (smurf).
I made a nickname, requested to join with 0/0/0 stats, when the admins checked it was 5;1 so they didnt add me so the rules dont obligate me to NOT TRANSFER, you cant demand form ppl to obey the rulles if they are not in the team! so that transfer thing is like it never happend, becouse if you terat me like a ISL2 player, even if im not sighnd up then that admin that didint accept me to the team (when i was 5;1) and sayd that i have to start all over again. Then he was wrong and it was YOUR BAD DECISION.
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Game why do you atack him?
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The next thing is that when you accept the rulles it means that FROM NOW ON U CAN THIS AND CANT THAT. It dosnt work back
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On July 31 2011 19:11 Mazur wrote:
The next thing is that when you accept the rulles it means that FROM NOW ON U CAN THIS AND CANT THAT. It dosnt work back
오후 6:58:38 Game
then was allowed
오후 6:58:43 Game
then we discovered he transferred and kicked him
오후 6:58:56 Game
he was ISL2-Rahl originally
If you're going to keep ranting, go ahead. As far as I know, the above decisions are final.
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LOL ? when an admin asked me whats my aka I told him and made a new nick name and you accepted me so you didnt see any problems then LOL -.-
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On July 31 2011 18:56 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 18:24 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
if you are kicked from the team its not your ISL2 account anymore. Its only your ISL2 account if you are on the team. I could make an account called ISL2_FUALL and transfer on and off that account as I please.
But what I'm wondering most about is, who made that decision about mazur? Is it you? Because the rules state that LRM)nOoNe holds last decisions. You want to know what actually happened behind the scenes? We changed the organizer to nOoNe on the OP because iCCup didn't want Game involved in a tournament that 'ran' on iCCup. In reality, Game was running the tournament behind the scene. I hope this explains some parts, if not everything.
So I guess this means there's essentially zero chance of an ISL3? : /
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This is how i see the situation with Mazur:
Rule 6: All names must begin with ISL2. Ex: ISL2-Kaalveiten ISL2_NoOne [ISL2]Sayle. You must join the team with 0-0 stats.
His name good, but he didnt joined with 0-0 first time, so admins dont accepted him
he played on that acc, then transferred it, now rule says:
Rule 8: Stats: You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account and you cannot transfer from your ISL2 account. No points on your account can come from an ICCup tournament. If this occurs, you will be told to reset. If you offend twice, you will be disqualified.
He transferred his stats to other account, so as first offence he should reset. because he transferred he 0-0 now, so its equivalent to reset (rules dont say that u must use /clearstats to reset your account, reset only means that u will have 0-0 1000 points after), so he got his punishement and can try to join isl2 again.
Also please note, that rules are not 100% clear. When an account will be your isl2 account? When u joined and accepted to isl2 team, or when u create it? If its when u create it, will u hunt down all accounts made with isl2 in its name to check if there were abused in any way to ban them from future isl events? I dont think so. Any way i think mazur is right (and even if not its 100% clear that he didnt do anything to try to cheat or abuse rules)
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On June 23 2011 02:19 Game wrote:
Ladder Qualification: June 30th - July 31st
Servers: iCCup for the Ladder Qualification, USWest with chaoslauncher for the Group Stages and tournament.
On July 31 2011 13:29 Game wrote:
Just as importantly, take note that all Group Stage and Round of 64 games will be played on Fish server.
On July 31 2011 16:28 dRaW wrote:
The OP was very ambiguous (the end of July 31st, yet ended @ the end of the 30th).
On July 31 2011 16:22 Game wrote:
Whether you were in the team or not is not applicable to your situation. Notice this rule: "8) Stats: You cannot transfer to your ISL2 account and you cannot transfer from your ISL2 account." is in the Tournament Rules.
==> poor job by the admins so far. they should really read their own rules/infos again ...
cant believe i have to install mini launcher which consist of 99% adware just to participate. but maybe the tour admins will change their minds again and again and again -.-
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How players can mess up in a ladder stage with such simple rules is beyond me.
Make ISL2 account, join team, play games until deadline.
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EPT
