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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#361
Thanks for streaming GTR and Fold, appreciate all the effort with trying to get us a working stream, and thanks for teh thread Fenrax
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
June 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#362
Hwaseung Tosses? What happened?

Anytime happened.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
June 13 2011 12:19 GMT
#363
This match needed some BackHo, the most awesome of all the Hwaseung Protoss.

Ah well, can't have everything...
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 13 2011 12:19 GMT
#364
I wrote this hella months ago, feel like it's relevant now:

On April 26 2011 11:14 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 10:20 Yxes2211 wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:22 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote:
it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?

Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).

I just wonder how long will this last?


i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.


I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.


maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.

I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft

manner
khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
June 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#365
well, at least ace beat jaedong
will the Legendary Protoss please stand up, please stand up
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
June 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#366
On June 13 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote:
Thanks for streaming GTR and Fold, appreciate all the effort with trying to get us a working stream, and thanks for teh thread Fenrax

Seconded. You guys went through hell to keep the stream running.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 12:27:14
June 13 2011 12:22 GMT
#367
On June 13 2011 21:19 d_so wrote:
I wrote this hella months ago, feel like it's relevant now:

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 11:14 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:20 Yxes2211 wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:22 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote:
it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?

Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).

I just wonder how long will this last?


i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.


I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.


maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.

I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft


Doesn't a Speed Shuttle move faster than a Wraith? If so - Shuttle speed would be a better investment since a Scout + Slow shuttle are easier targets than 1-2 Speed Shuttles.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 13 2011 12:23 GMT
#368
and lol at jaedong, still stuck at 99 zvz wins
manner
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
June 13 2011 12:23 GMT
#369
Thanks for the thread and streams. Oz needed this win badly. Grats to them.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 13 2011 12:26 GMT
#370
Jaedong lost again? What happened to JvZ.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
June 13 2011 12:33 GMT
#371
came back and am so surprised to see oz win, when jaedong lost i was expecting oz to flop already

i'll be eagerly waiting for sHy's match against iris to be up ^^

though im not that happy to see jaedong flopping over and over again
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#372
On June 13 2011 21:22 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 21:19 d_so wrote:
I wrote this hella months ago, feel like it's relevant now:

On April 26 2011 11:14 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:20 Yxes2211 wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:22 d_so wrote:
On April 26 2011 09:06 Seraphic wrote:
it isn't like I don't agree with you d_so but is there any other Toss players out right now that has an actual, real chance for Gold in MSL?

Stork is probably going to lose to Hydra, then it'll be down to Grape/Horang2 and I honestly do not see the two of them beat Flash/JD/Hydra (Stork if he wins).

I just wonder how long will this last?


i think pvt needs a paradigm shift before P has any real chance for a starleague gold, similar to how queens are shaking things up in zvt. And like queens, i suspect it's right beneath our noses, we're just too arrogant to see it.


I'm thinking mass scouts is the answer to PvT.


maybe not mass scouts, but how about a scout ferrying a shuttle to stop the wraith from sniping it? perhaps unpractical in current build orders, but as time goes on i think starcraft is showing that no units themselves are useless, it's all about incorporating a build to make them work.

I hope the change will be focused on late game reavers. The reason why I think this is because so many times you see a huge protoss force recalled into a terran base, all to kill one armory or a a few supply depots. I understand the main strength of recalls is to force the terran back to defend, but wouldnt a few reavers in the mix of the recalled army pay huge dividends in damaging terran's structures faster and more effectively? /theorycraft


Doesn't a Speed Shuttle move faster than a Wraith? If so - Shuttle speed would be a better investment since a Scout + Slow shuttle are easier targets than 1-2 Speed Shuttles.

No the speed shuttle moves at the same speed as the wraith. But I agree it would be better to get speed than to get a scout to protect it, your shuttle will take damage from turrets anyway.

Really enjoyed the way Shy played today, using those shuttle, they were like mini recalls but at an earlier time with reaver fire power. Always disrupting the bases/mining, and hindering that 3rd from getting operational. Really took advantage of the immobility that is the terran ground force. Can't wait till vods are up so I can get another look.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 13 2011 12:50 GMT
#373
The line ups, has a bold name, someone should fix that.


As for the results
common dong
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
June 13 2011 12:51 GMT
#374
Jaedong, please recover. Zero, Soulkey, Hydra are not worthy of the title of "best zerg".
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
June 13 2011 13:09 GMT
#375
Jaedong lost again? Awww man !
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 13 2011 13:29 GMT
#376
What's going on. Jaedong losing left and right... And what for the first time in 2 years or so his elo dropped below 2200.

Seems like Jaedong is undergoing the biggest slump since Fall of 2008...
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 13 2011 13:46 GMT
#377
JAEDONG LOSING TO GGAEMO? HOLY **** ON A SANDWICH

wow, but ACE lost anyway despite taking out JD / Killer sadness.
Writer
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 13 2011 14:25 GMT
#378
Stork + JD in a huge slump. Me sad
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
June 13 2011 14:25 GMT
#379
On June 13 2011 21:26 rebdomine wrote:
Jaedong lost again? What happened to JvZ.


JvZ hasn't existed ever since he lost to hydra last season
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
June 13 2011 15:04 GMT
#380
On June 13 2011 23:25 SkelA wrote:
Stork + JD in a huge slump. Me sad

Same here...
this is my quote.
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