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Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 12 2011 09:55 GMT
#461
never thought i would say this:

Go mind please win
wat
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
May 12 2011 09:56 GMT
#462
On May 12 2011 18:49 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
i honestly don't understand how can a pro lose SO easily with 12h against 12pool it makes a slight difference if calm didn't build spire at all but still...


He saw 3 drones mining mins in Calm nat, which should mean that there are 7-9 on mins in main, which should mean he had enough stuff to hold until spire. The problem was that Calm knew the ovie would come to the nat first, hence he pulled those drones while having 4 or so in the main. The builds don't really matter that much here, one player was teching and dronning, while the other was massing lings with slower tech. And lings are stronger than drones in a stand up fight.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 12 2011 09:56 GMT
#463
Lets go Mind!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 12 2011 09:56 GMT
#464
Mind go go go!!
Terran
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 12 2011 09:57 GMT
#465
On May 12 2011 18:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 18:49 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
i honestly don't understand how can a pro lose SO easily with 12h against 12pool it makes a slight difference if calm didn't build spire at all but still...


Calm just understands the matchup very well. He knew that with 12h vs 12p, he would have less gas and later Spire. Therefore, he knew the 12h player would likely try to capitalize on that advantage, get spire ASAP, and pressure with lings to stall until that advantage materializes. The choice to mass lings was a very risky one, but it paid off quite well.

Zero got too greedy, because he was ahead and STILL chose to be greedy in making more drones WITHOUT making a sunken. But even with a Sunken it might've been hard to hold, but he could've potentially minimized losses to stall till Mutas.

And the usual reaction for someone who went 12p vs 12h in order he could take advantage of the BO is to scout, to see if the only threat of mass lings is being done. Otherwise 12p wins all day
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 12 2011 09:57 GMT
#466
Set 3 of the night

Map is Circuit breaker

Mind in Orange at 11
Hydra in Brown at 1
Overlord is heading the right way

Go Mind go!
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 09:57:53
May 12 2011 09:57 GMT
#467
hydra brown at 2
mind orange at 11
kespa referee purple
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
May 12 2011 09:57 GMT
#468
On May 12 2011 18:55 NeoLearner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 18:53 HeaDStrong wrote:
I want to watch that game again and look exactly where ZerO's overlords are and how much did he see what Calm build... just curious how he misjudged the game in such a way...

Pretty much what I was thinking. Would the overlord not normally be over the main to check the spire timing / ling count?


yea... maybe he pulled them out already to gain time for their life from the 'mutas' that would come...


Mind vs Hydra.. let's hope we actually see a good game tonight!
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 09:58:43
May 12 2011 09:57 GMT
#469
proxy rax
... into stream death
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#470
Hydra's 1st ovie heading the right way

Streamu...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#471
STREAMMM
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#472
Mind putting down a forward rax

and stream is down
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#473
2nd stream dead as well?! O_O
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#474
Streamuuuu?
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#475
On May 12 2011 18:57 Legatus Lanius wrote:
kespa referee purple
Hah! And the observer is Terran~

And the stream dies on me...
Fly Jaedong, fly!
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
May 12 2011 09:58 GMT
#476
Any other streams apart from JSH?
Its lagging like hell right now.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
May 12 2011 09:59 GMT
#477
Ha, predicting Hydra roflstomping Mind. Karma. Even JD said making that group was the champion's right. Man up and stop whining TL!
SmyD
Profile Joined March 2011
32 Posts
May 12 2011 09:59 GMT
#478
I HEARD THE STREAM!
cant see it htough
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 09:59:29
May 12 2011 09:59 GMT
#479

MSL Ro8 Day 1 Group C: (T)Mind (0:0) (Z)Hydra
Set 1: Circuit Breaker
(T)Mind @ 11 [orange]
(Z)Hydra @ 1 [brown]


Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 12 2011 09:59 GMT
#480
I hear sound, its partially back up!
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