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patience is a virtue

constantly asking for interviews right after games are played isn't
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
May 01 2011 07:36 GMT
#921
Flash the turtle strikes again
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
May 01 2011 07:36 GMT
#922
On May 01 2011 16:33 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:19 Tenhou wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:17 Release wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:16 DarkMatter_ wrote:
I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.

I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.

more or less, it was a BO disadvantage. Hydra still could've pulled it off cleaner though


It wasn't a BO advantage or disadvantage as 2 hatch muta depends on the early micro... if he had better micro against the mnm at flash's base then he could have his 3rd easy and flash couldn't move out of his base while building more turret :/

i meant spawn position. mb


I don't get what you're saying now.

Closer position would give the 2hatch muta a shorter distance so it should be better for hydra o.O
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 01 2011 07:36 GMT
#923
Thanks for streaming GTR <3

Flash is never gonna die to 2hatch muta (esp 12pool variant) again.
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
May 01 2011 07:37 GMT
#924
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

He's not sent out every ace, wha o__O;
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2011 07:37 GMT
#925
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 01 2011 07:37 GMT
#926
oh Flash beat Hydra on Icarus, that's good.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 01 2011 07:39 GMT
#927
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

I agree... Leta or Skyhigh would have been my choice for ace.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 01 2011 07:39 GMT
#928
Hydra, thanks for fucking up my fpl.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 07:43:36
May 01 2011 07:41 GMT
#929
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright


Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.

Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.

Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Priphea
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 01 2011 07:42 GMT
#930
wow the line ups look epicz!
▲ ▲ ▲
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 07:45:55
May 01 2011 07:44 GMT
#931
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright

There was nothing special about Flash's push timing, it was pretty standard. What sealed the deal was Flash's good defense against mutas combined with Hydra's terrible muta control. When you go for that kind of build and don't do any damage, it's going to be nearly impossible to stop the midgame push. Despite losing that massive MnM force, Flash's midgame army was still too much for Hydra to handle.

Also, I really don't think map imbalance is relevant in cross position.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
May 01 2011 07:49 GMT
#932
On May 01 2011 16:41 Kamille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright


Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.

Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.

Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.

Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 01 2011 07:52 GMT
#933
wow clutch crazy hydra, hes really doing well so far O,o unfortunate for hydra to lose 2ce in 1 series
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
May 01 2011 07:59 GMT
#934
On May 01 2011 16:49 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:41 Kamille wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright


Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.

Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.

Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.

Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.


He beat Bisu once, unimpressive. ZvZs are volatile, Jaedong can't win them all. Light is now a Woongjin Terran. He beat Stork on Dante's peak. He's overall unimpressive. I'm comparing him to players who can perform with disadvantages and still win.
Priphea
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 01 2011 08:04 GMT
#935
On May 01 2011 16:49 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:41 Kamille wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright


Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.

Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.

Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.

Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.

He is right with the MSL winner argument though. People always bring that up but his MSL run only proved that he is good versus Zerg. Opponents:

Killer
Calm
Classic
Calm
Jaedong
great

Classic was the only non-zerg opponent and he isn't really A-material at the moment, especially vs Zerg.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 01 2011 08:08 GMT
#936
Anyone know where in the MSL bracket Flash would eliminate Hydra if they met? Don't know where to find a bracket.

+ Show Spoiler +

]

^ it's here! jk
May the BeSt man win.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
May 01 2011 08:09 GMT
#937
Everyone knows who wins the race between the Turtle and the Hydra.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 08:11:30
May 01 2011 08:11 GMT
#938
On May 01 2011 17:09 Simplistik wrote:
Everyone knows who wins the race between the Turtle and the Hydra.


Well the result is obvious. Turtle wins against everything, even rabbits.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4396 Posts
May 01 2011 08:14 GMT
#939
On May 01 2011 16:59 Kamille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:49 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:41 Kamille wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:37 tube wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote:
Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.

msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck

flash just has better game sense
he always knows when he can push and just win outright


Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.

Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.

Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.

Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.


He beat Bisu once, unimpressive. ZvZs are volatile, Jaedong can't win them all. Light is now a Woongjin Terran. He beat Stork on Dante's peak. He's overall unimpressive. I'm comparing him to players who can perform with disadvantages and still win.


The win over Bisu was far from unimpressive. And its not the guys fault if they only faced once.
I see the problem....you cried when he eliminated JD last MSL? *-) Thats the only reason I can think of for such an agressive posting. For JD yeah ZvZ is volatile cant win them all...guess what Hydra did and despite the fact that they were ZvZs he won them.
The fact that light is in Woongjin is suposed to be funny? After your bm posts I dont find it funny, he didnt forget how to TvZ just because he switched teams.

How many players have lost to Flash and looked silly? I've seen JD more than once in that position and plenty of other progamers that are good or very good beeing stomped by Flash and looking bad in the process.

Hydra is a good player. No point in trying to make him super good because he (still) isnt but theres no reason also to make him look like a complete noob or an awful player because he isnt also.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 01 2011 08:17 GMT
#940
I fell asleep when I was supposed to cheer flash on. =(

Thank god he won! All is right in the world. ^^
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