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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#521
Flash TvT too good.

It's a little sad that first tank+BC push got stopped, other than that Flash played a sick sick game of SC.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#522
From ZerO to hero!

;DDDDDDDD
Maruprime.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
April 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#523
That was a really great game. Pretty much constant dominance by Flash, but Really kept the overall gamestate close at times. Fun to watch. That wraith micro made that game worth watching by itself.
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#524
really made too many wraiths and didn't keep his tank number to keep the lines. imo he should have made tanks turrets and then missed in some goliaths as well when he saw the bcs
ftw
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#525
On April 30 2011 18:20 HolydaKing wrote:
can't believe flash won this. really had like 60-70% territory all game but built the wrong units..


......

Flash was ahead in this game from start to finish. When Really killed all his BCs at 1 o'clock he had a window of opportunity to come back, but he didn't.

Flash did huge economic damage in the beginning and was always a base ahead or two as far as I could see it.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#526
Flash gained a massive advantage from his wraith harass which he rode out to the end. You guys really over-hype the results of unimportant battles and useless unsaturated expansions.
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#527
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base


flash had at least 15, with goliath support. He was waiting for energy and hoping clone Yamato flashs BCs but it was really too late. He lost it when he did nothing with the mass wraiths after the initial defend
DONGJWA!
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#528
On April 30 2011 18:21 J1.au wrote:
At no point in that game was Really ahead.

Correct. Flash was in a somewhat dangerous position when Really held more than half of the map, as he needed to break that, but that's what the quick BCs were for.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#529
On April 30 2011 18:22 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base

yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really)

His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time.
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
April 30 2011 09:23 GMT
#530
Poll: Reallyvs Flash is Good Game?

Yes (56)
 
77%

No (17)
 
23%

73 total votes

Your vote: Reallyvs Flash is Good Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

DONGJWA!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#531
Really's defense against wraiths was absolutely terrible, especially considering how he scouted the starport
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#532
This just in: Flash is pretty good at TvT. Questionable decisions by Really, Flash was in a little trouble after his first BC fleet was destroyed but his map control, macro, and decision making made up for it.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 30 2011 09:24 GMT
#533
On April 30 2011 18:23 noojOh wrote:
really made too many wraiths and didn't keep his tank number to keep the lines. imo he should have made tanks turrets and then missed in some goliaths as well when he saw the bcs

No he should've attacked Flash's inner Expo with his wraith/tank army when he repelled the first push from Flash because that was when Flash has the weakest defence and Really failed to capture that window.
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Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
April 30 2011 09:26 GMT
#534
On April 30 2011 18:23 GG.NoRe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base


flash had at least 15, with goliath support. He was waiting for energy and hoping clone Yamato flashs BCs but it was really too late. He lost it when he did nothing with the mass wraiths after the initial defend

On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:22 letian wrote:
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base

yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really)

His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time.


Wow, hivemind! I like your analysis! ;p
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#535
On April 30 2011 18:23 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:20 HolydaKing wrote:
can't believe flash won this. really had like 60-70% territory all game but built the wrong units..


......

Flash was ahead in this game from start to finish. When Really killed all his BCs at 1 o'clock he had a window of opportunity to come back, but he didn't.

Flash did huge economic damage in the beginning and was always a base ahead or two as far as I could see it.

for most of the early game Flash was 2 bases ahead, plus all those SCVs he destroyed with his mutaliskswraiths.

Even when Really evened up the CC count I doubt his rate of income ever caught up to Flash at any point in the game
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 09:29:46
April 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#536
Flash won with beautiful starsense.

The problem with Really going Wraiths is that while it may be tactically superior to Battlecruisers, you need something else to capitalize on those gains.

Even when Really decimated Flash's BC @ 1, he lost too many Wraiths and Valkyries in the attempt. This meant that he could not go on the offensive, especially given his inferior ground force. While he held a nominal advantage in map control, he was very behind in his economy, and he couldn't break out into positive momentum.

His tech switch might've put him on even ground had he been given time to accumulate his BC count and upgrades, but Flash knowingly detected the play and immediately moved in with his army. This forced Really's hand into engaging with his wraiths and valks when this time, Flash had goliaths backing his BCs.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 30 2011 09:28 GMT
#537
Ya, that game definitely seemed closer than it actually was.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 09:30:05
April 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#538
On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:22 letian wrote:
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base

yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really)

His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time.

And thats why engaged with his wraiths and valks only?. I think its obvious that his BC's would have been of a good help right there even without any yamatos. It was already too late, but still he could have made a better damage. Anyway he lost earlier, so whatever.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 09:31:01
April 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#539
On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 18:22 letian wrote:
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote:
why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base

yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really)

His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time.

A medium sized army does a lot better against a large army than a tiny army does against a large army. Those BCs, valks and wraith were useless in the upper right corner but they could've helped destroy a lot more of Flash's army. Really is good at TvT but he made a lot of questionable decisions and Flash made 1, losing those early BCs.

Well deserved victory, this will probably be a 2-0 in the end.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
April 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#540
stream TT
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
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