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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:35:00
April 18 2011 11:34 GMT
#641
On April 18 2011 20:29 Lann555 wrote:
Fantasy


At least I went 4/4 in liquibet

you know it was worth 0 points :D


my LB is dead fucking SKT I voted 3 times against them rofl
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
April 18 2011 11:35 GMT
#642
Fantasy lost because oov didnt help him prepare cos fantasy got the quiz question wrong.Explains everything
micromegas
Profile Joined November 2008
Denmark171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 17:17:49
April 18 2011 11:35 GMT
#643
On April 18 2011 20:03 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:01 micromegas wrote:
God I hope fantasy loses


You and me both buddy.


edit

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We need help, the poet reckoned.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
April 18 2011 11:37 GMT
#644
I just literally went 0/4 in liquibet.
Goddamnit, Calm and Neo.G_Soulkey, when I find you, I'm gonna...
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Hug you and tell you how proud I am of you. Man, what a great night.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:37:50
April 18 2011 11:37 GMT
#645
On April 18 2011 20:34 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:31 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:30 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:28 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:27 xarthaz wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:25 bearbuddy wrote:
What was fantasy's gols doing attacking Soulkey's hatch at 1', anyway? Gols could have easily prevented that broodling massacre.
soulkeys economy was starting to go out of control, fantasy had to attempt to cut it down, lest he be totally overrun.


Send a few vultures. Not the entire gol force. =_=

Fantasy did 0 damage with vultures in this game. Soulkey shut all vulture play down.


That still doesn't excuse sending all of his gols knowing that there are queens around. Not to mention the 1' is really, really out of the way for soulkey, and SK probably took that as a distraction in the first place.

No, but what was he supposed to send then, tanks?


Or less gols, or some vultures, or a couple of tanks. Yes. I'm just saying that Fantasy didn't respond to that expansion correctly, and sending all his gols is a bad move, and definitely not the only move that he could have done.

Heck, maybe even go Flash style and creep across the map with turrets and just leave it alone.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
April 18 2011 11:38 GMT
#646
i love soulkey's zvt
I drop suckas like Plinko
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:42:03
April 18 2011 11:40 GMT
#647
On April 18 2011 20:37 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:34 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:31 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:30 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:28 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:27 xarthaz wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:25 bearbuddy wrote:
What was fantasy's gols doing attacking Soulkey's hatch at 1', anyway? Gols could have easily prevented that broodling massacre.
soulkeys economy was starting to go out of control, fantasy had to attempt to cut it down, lest he be totally overrun.


Send a few vultures. Not the entire gol force. =_=

Fantasy did 0 damage with vultures in this game. Soulkey shut all vulture play down.


That still doesn't excuse sending all of his gols knowing that there are queens around. Not to mention the 1' is really, really out of the way for soulkey, and SK probably took that as a distraction in the first place.

No, but what was he supposed to send then, tanks?


Or less gols, or some vultures, or a couple of tanks. Yes. I'm just saying that Fantasy didn't respond to that expansion correctly, and sending all his gols is a bad move, and definitely not the only move that he could have done.

Heck, maybe even go Flash style and creep across the map with turrets and just leave it alone.

All of this assumes that Fantasy knows how to play TvZ He does not.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:41:21
April 18 2011 11:40 GMT
#648
edit nvm
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
April 18 2011 11:42 GMT
#649
Fantasy....man, what an over rated player.

Wish Stork didn't choke so much and taken out this noobie during OSL finals.
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:43:00
April 18 2011 11:42 GMT
#650
On April 18 2011 20:40 ~chut~ wrote:
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On April 18 2011 20:25 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:22 538 wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:20 BisuDagger wrote:
MnM would have destroyed this build!!!!

... are you being serious?

I meant, he should have known SK was going to use the same strat against mech and gone with MnM from the start in order to avoid Queen vs Mech all together.


I hope you're really not serious... SK just reacted perfectly to what Fantasy was making:
14cc : 3 hatch
early factory : spire then hydra den
he scouted the mech with the one muta he made then went on with his counter mech build.

If you're thinking SK would have gone hydra+queens against bio, you're just delusional...

As far as I can tell, his point was precisely that SK would not have gone hydra+queens against bio...
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 11:50:56
April 18 2011 11:45 GMT
#651
On April 18 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:37 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:34 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:31 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:30 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:28 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:27 xarthaz wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:25 bearbuddy wrote:
What was fantasy's gols doing attacking Soulkey's hatch at 1', anyway? Gols could have easily prevented that broodling massacre.
soulkeys economy was starting to go out of control, fantasy had to attempt to cut it down, lest he be totally overrun.


Send a few vultures. Not the entire gol force. =_=

Fantasy did 0 damage with vultures in this game. Soulkey shut all vulture play down.


That still doesn't excuse sending all of his gols knowing that there are queens around. Not to mention the 1' is really, really out of the way for soulkey, and SK probably took that as a distraction in the first place.

No, but what was he supposed to send then, tanks?


Or less gols, or some vultures, or a couple of tanks. Yes. I'm just saying that Fantasy didn't respond to that expansion correctly, and sending all his gols is a bad move, and definitely not the only move that he could have done.

Heck, maybe even go Flash style and creep across the map with turrets and just leave it alone.

All of this assumes that Fantasy knows how to play ZvT. He does not.


So the answer to the original question is that Fantasy is bad.
Nevermind. I just want to see the game run its course and how well queens would work on a real mech defense... which was the first game, I guess, till Fantasy fell apart.

On the side note, I'm happy that Soulkey used more aggressive builds today. Though the ZvZ didn't work out so well, I'm glad he did what he did.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
April 18 2011 11:50 GMT
#652
Mass Queen is risky as he has to wait for additional 100 energy and broodling to finish before it kicks in.

If Fantasy was to commit for a 2 base mech push, then SK might not hold... but instead he plays passively which gives SK an advantage with the build.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
April 18 2011 11:51 GMT
#653
On April 18 2011 20:25 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:22 538 wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:20 BisuDagger wrote:
MnM would have destroyed this build!!!!

... are you being serious?

I meant, he should have known SK was going to use the same strat against mech and gone with MnM from the start in order to avoid Queen vs Mech all together.

Yes, Soulkey is not that good against bio zvt compared to mech zvt, but fantasy's mnm control is just not on par.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
April 18 2011 11:54 GMT
#654
On April 18 2011 20:45 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:37 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:34 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:31 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:30 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:28 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:27 xarthaz wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:25 bearbuddy wrote:
What was fantasy's gols doing attacking Soulkey's hatch at 1', anyway? Gols could have easily prevented that broodling massacre.
soulkeys economy was starting to go out of control, fantasy had to attempt to cut it down, lest he be totally overrun.


Send a few vultures. Not the entire gol force. =_=

Fantasy did 0 damage with vultures in this game. Soulkey shut all vulture play down.


That still doesn't excuse sending all of his gols knowing that there are queens around. Not to mention the 1' is really, really out of the way for soulkey, and SK probably took that as a distraction in the first place.

No, but what was he supposed to send then, tanks?


Or less gols, or some vultures, or a couple of tanks. Yes. I'm just saying that Fantasy didn't respond to that expansion correctly, and sending all his gols is a bad move, and definitely not the only move that he could have done.

Heck, maybe even go Flash style and creep across the map with turrets and just leave it alone.

All of this assumes that Fantasy knows how to play ZvT. He does not.


So the answer to the original question is that Fantasy is bad.
Nevermind. I just want to see the game run its course and how well queens would work on a real mech defense... which was the first game, I guess, till Fantasy fell apart.

Haha, yeah. If Fantasy wins "Oov did it", if Fantasy loses "Fantasy is terrible"

He just makes so many terrible decisions in TvZ it's rather hard to explain it any other way.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
April 18 2011 11:54 GMT
#655
lol oh man I think this means 0/4 on LB. GG season
[TLMS] REBOOT
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 18 2011 11:56 GMT
#656
Rofl, Fantasy...

Should I prepare for another Zerg top 4 MSL thsi season?
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 18 2011 11:59 GMT
#657
--- Nuked ---
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
April 18 2011 12:00 GMT
#658
this day LB doesnt reward any points, chill out.dunno why ppl would pick roro over clam tho..
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
April 18 2011 12:03 GMT
#659
On April 18 2011 20:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 20:45 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:40 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:37 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:34 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:31 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:30 kuroshiroi wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:28 bearbuddy wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:27 xarthaz wrote:
On April 18 2011 20:25 bearbuddy wrote:
What was fantasy's gols doing attacking Soulkey's hatch at 1', anyway? Gols could have easily prevented that broodling massacre.
soulkeys economy was starting to go out of control, fantasy had to attempt to cut it down, lest he be totally overrun.


Send a few vultures. Not the entire gol force. =_=

Fantasy did 0 damage with vultures in this game. Soulkey shut all vulture play down.


That still doesn't excuse sending all of his gols knowing that there are queens around. Not to mention the 1' is really, really out of the way for soulkey, and SK probably took that as a distraction in the first place.

No, but what was he supposed to send then, tanks?


Or less gols, or some vultures, or a couple of tanks. Yes. I'm just saying that Fantasy didn't respond to that expansion correctly, and sending all his gols is a bad move, and definitely not the only move that he could have done.

Heck, maybe even go Flash style and creep across the map with turrets and just leave it alone.

All of this assumes that Fantasy knows how to play ZvT. He does not.


So the answer to the original question is that Fantasy is bad.
Nevermind. I just want to see the game run its course and how well queens would work on a real mech defense... which was the first game, I guess, till Fantasy fell apart.

Haha, yeah. If Fantasy wins "Oov did it", if Fantasy loses "Fantasy is terrible"

He just makes so many terrible decisions in TvZ it's rather hard to explain it any other way.


I totally agree with you.

Build order victory or epic fail.

But, his unit control I must admit, is pretty good. Though perhaps that's why his multitasking is sub par since he's always focusing so much on those tiny little things.
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 18 2011 12:17 GMT
#660
If Neo.G. can show some fangs in his other two matchups, I may become a real fan.

With that said, the mass queen build surely has timings that can be exploited.
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