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e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
March 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#281
On March 22 2011 12:10 c3rberUs wrote:
Crazy-hydra all kill? Is this like the second zerg AK this season?

Yeah. The first one was JD's AK vs Khan.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 22 2011 05:45 GMT
#282
I just watched CH vs. Sea, and the queen usage was brilliant. I would definitely want to see more of it, it definitely seems effective against mech if executed well.

One thing I would have liked to have seen in the game though, was the usage of the infested command center. Although infesting a cc is already very useful per se, I can't help but feel that the byproduct i.e. the infested cc itself is underutilised. I mean, it can be used it so many ways: delay a terran's expo, float it into the main and make infested terrans to harass & kill supply depots (like how terrans can float rax into base and make firebats), give vision, used to form a wall, etc.

I also feel that the usage of infested terrans can be incorporated more if you already have an infested cc. One way I thought about using them would be as a pseudo nuke: drop 2 infested terrans on a cc and then have a queen follow up with the infest. Cost-wise, you're spending 200/100 to take down a cc + some (if not most) of its scvs. It's more cost effective than a nuke, you're not spending extra on tech. I think its usage is definitely worth exploring. Sadly, we don't get many games where we even see queen usage in ZvT...

I hope more zergs in the proscene start using Queens!
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
March 22 2011 06:02 GMT
#283
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 22 2011 06:19 GMT
#284
Yes, I'm aware that they're paper and die really easily, but in my post I was talking about using them strategically, not as part of your main army. If you combine them with drops, I think it is possible to get them to blow up especially under swarm, getting rid of clumped tanks quickly.

Unfortunately unless maps with neutral CCs show up again, I doubt we will ever see their usage in pro PvZs again
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
March 22 2011 07:19 GMT
#285
Fantastic, fantastic game, everybody should watch Game 6.

Crazy AK
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
March 22 2011 14:53 GMT
#286
On March 22 2011 03:53 dani_caliKorea wrote:
LOL at the resullts

Woongjin is such a dick.

1) Buy out their Zerg specialist
2) Send Zergs
3) Profit


THIS!

WTB Light back...
RIP MBC Game Hero
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
March 22 2011 20:56 GMT
#287
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.


Wait what? You know they destroy unit immediately and spawn from its remains?
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#288
... no they don't
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 21:24:08
March 22 2011 21:22 GMT
#289
On March 23 2011 05:56 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.


Wait what? You know they destroy unit immediately and spawn from its remains?

Lolwut, what mod of sc have you been playing? That sounds awesome haha
Edit: i think you're confusing spawn broodling with infested terran
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
March 23 2011 05:58 GMT
#290
On March 23 2011 06:22 Doughboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 05:56 Jakalo wrote:
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.


Wait what? You know they destroy unit immediately and spawn from its remains?

Lolwut, what mod of sc have you been playing? That sounds awesome haha
Edit: i think you're confusing spawn broodling with infested terran


Um yes, lol. Wait someone tried to use infested terrans in a game? o.0
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
March 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#291
yayyy woongjin :3 ~~
C r u m b l i n g
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5784 Posts
March 23 2011 09:06 GMT
#292
On March 23 2011 14:58 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 06:22 Doughboy wrote:
On March 23 2011 05:56 Jakalo wrote:
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.


Wait what? You know they destroy unit immediately and spawn from its remains?

Lolwut, what mod of sc have you been playing? That sounds awesome haha
Edit: i think you're confusing spawn broodling with infested terran


Um yes, lol. Wait someone tried to use infested terrans in a game? o.0


ZerO used them on a couple of occasions IIRC.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
March 23 2011 14:30 GMT
#293
On March 23 2011 14:58 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 06:22 Doughboy wrote:
On March 23 2011 05:56 Jakalo wrote:
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.


Wait what? You know they destroy unit immediately and spawn from its remains?

Lolwut, what mod of sc have you been playing? That sounds awesome haha
Edit: i think you're confusing spawn broodling with infested terran


Um yes, lol. Wait someone tried to use infested terrans in a game? o.0


ZerO vs Kal on Holy World, a map that has a neutral CC in the center. It was fucking hilarious
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 22:11:33
March 28 2011 22:11 GMT
#294
On March 22 2011 15:02 Tianx wrote:
Infested terrans are absolutely terrible against terran, *especially* mech. They cost a crapton more than zerglings but are only slightly more durable, so you're almost never going to get them to actually blow anything up.

They're pretty good against 'toss, though.

LOL! Usually doesnt happen w/o neutral cc.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 28 2011 22:30 GMT
#295
To the guy that says Infested Terran are bad vs Tanks. Dude have you see NGSoulkey's overlord drop style on top of tanks with ultralisks? Imagine THAT with Infested Terran, Infested Terran does splash dmg and one-kill tanks so one of those can easily take out 4 to 5 tanks if dropped right.
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