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Rinny
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States616 Posts
March 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#1201
little plastic people in hot dog buns
Where my swarm at? Ye Yeee
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#1202
On March 20 2011 15:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
what is Craton watching?!?!?!?!?


Grown adults playing children's games on TV. I dunno what it is or why they're going it, but I want in.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#1203
On March 20 2011 15:49 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:47 MoonBear wrote:
On March 20 2011 15:45 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Well played by JD but Bisu pretty much handed him that game. He was completely asking for it by having just one cannon and a late robo.

Now JD just needs to make it through SKT's zergs.


to be fair the robo timing was pretty standard

bisu did cut too many corners though, 1 cannon won't cut it vs the dong

Not really, the Robo seemed kinda late to me. Bisu focuses a lot on his corsairs and zealots and invests a lot in them so the lurker timing before he could get a robo was actually a smart move by JD.

I wonder how Bisu will adapt his build now people know what the weakness is?


he'll just build 2 cannons instead

I dunno. I don't think two canons would necessarily have stopped that. Maybe even more? That initial canon went down so fast it may as well not have been there.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1204
On March 20 2011 15:47 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:45 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Well played by JD but Bisu pretty much handed him that game. He was completely asking for it by having just one cannon and a late robo.

Now JD just needs to make it through SKT's zergs.


to be fair the robo timing was pretty standard

bisu did cut too many corners though, 1 cannon won't cut it vs the dong

Not really, the Robo seemed kinda late to me. Bisu focuses a lot on his corsairs and zealots and invests a lot in them so the lurker timing before he could get a robo was actually a smart move by JD.

I wonder how Bisu will adapt his build now people know what the weakness is?

How is that a weakness? The thing that cost him the game was the lack of a second cannon + he didnt have the zeals walling off his entrance, had nothing to do with his "late" robo. His robotiming was actually probably earlier than he usually makes it in the 6gate zeal build.
God Hates a Coward
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1205
Hyuk is up.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1206
lmao hyuk to the rescue
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46458 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1207
JAEDONG'S GONNA GET HYUKED!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1208
go hyuk!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#1209
Hyuk up for SKT!
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1210
On March 20 2011 15:47 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:45 shucklesors wrote:
I think JD discovered something again, that will put him ahead of Protosses for a while (he had this with his 3bsi5hh until it was countered with good zealot +1 timings).
He does standard 3 base, but he seems to have discovered a timing where he can start making army instead of drones to abuse the Protoss huge weakness for that timing, but can easily revert to macro as he likes. He seemed to have done that with his double-fake hydra bust against Stork previously too.
I think it's like TvZ where Z is forced to make sunkens before mutas are out, Protoss will now be forced to make more units before storm is out.
Thoughts?


That move was pretty all-innish, JD used it because Bisu played predictably
However I don't think this will be standard because if the protoss expects it and cannons up, game over

No, just no. Jaedong does this sort of stuff all the time where gets early lurkers and if he the protoss has enough defense, he just uses the lurkers to take out the forge+gateway in the front and sets up a small contain. In this particular case, he saw that Bisu didn't have much in the way of defense so he just went for the kill.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1211
if dong rak, im gonna feel pretty dam crappy in the morning,..
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8178 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1212
On March 20 2011 15:47 Harem wrote:
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On March 20 2011 15:46 Ideas wrote:
that strat from JD was actually soooo much like calm's strat vs bisu on the same map. but instead of going for a speedlot attack, bisu made 2 DTs that didnt do anything.

He didn't try to overextend into the main though and lose lurks and ability to kill the nat.


yea that too lol
Free Palestine
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1213
A push that two additional cannons would have held isn't particularly strong, it just relies on Bisu not scouting it. Bisu didn't scout it so he lost. This game really wasn't that interesting. They would have been roughly even if Bisu had held that with Jaedong retreating with most of his lurkers.
There is but one truth.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1214
Proleague Finals repeat? Not this time.
☺
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1215
its hyukkie!

will he hyukk jd or wud it be a JvZ?
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1216
Ex-Jaedong Sniper, HYUKKKK : ) nice red hair
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1217
if hyuk wins this... lol
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1218
On March 20 2011 15:47 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:45 shucklesors wrote:
I think JD discovered something again, that will put him ahead of Protosses for a while (he had this with his 3bsi5hh until it was countered with good zealot +1 timings).
He does standard 3 base, but he seems to have discovered a timing where he can start making army instead of drones to abuse the Protoss huge weakness for that timing, but can easily revert to macro as he likes. He seemed to have done that with his double-fake hydra bust against Stork previously too.
I think it's like TvZ where Z is forced to make sunkens before mutas are out, Protoss will now be forced to make more units before storm is out.
Thoughts?


That move was pretty all-innish, JD used it because Bisu played predictably
However I don't think this will be standard because if the protoss expects it and cannons up, game over


How was that all in?
Let me tell you why it's not all-in:
A. It was well scouted (JD scouted the one cannon) therefore it was more reactionary
B. It was off 5 well-defended bases
C. JD didn't seemed to have cut anything (like drones) to get that attack off
D. It wasn't win or loss based on that attack, considering JD sent lings first so he could've retreated easily if needed.

Great game by JD. ^_^ I hope he goes to RAK now. God, that game was tense. SO tense. I love Bisu-Jaedong matches
darkness overpowering
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1219
Meh, looks like we're gonna see two ZvZs. I was hoping for Ssak since the map stats greatly favor Terran.
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
March 20 2011 06:52 GMT
#1220
Hyuk is up. Will we see JvZ?
Korean Air, please save Fox.
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