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POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 20 2011 06:43 GMT
#1161
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in


come to think of it

that timing was pretty reminiscent of shine

if shine didn't get cannon rushed that game, this would have been the probable outcome.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1162
On March 20 2011 15:42 BlackMagister wrote:
Let's go Best


ermmm, you mean the opposite right? coz I dun think I've seen one good PvZ match from best....
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1163
SK TELECOM SLUMPINGGG!!!!!! oh sorry... SK TELECOM FIGHTINGGG!!!!!!
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1164
so ummm, who do we send now?

my vote is for ssak and kwanro s2, but park probably has a sniper lined up who practiced exclusively vZ on the last map.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 06:45:13
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1165
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Didn't look all-in to me. If he got caught doing it, he could just retreat the lurkers and zerglings and defend on three bases until he got a proper army up.

EDIT: Although it's extremely risky if there's a chance of the Protoss opening Reavers rather than Templar path.
My strategy is to fork people.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1166
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkOptik wrote:
How is this remotely cheese at all? JD had 3 bases, spores up, sunkens up at the expo and the nat. Stop trying to find excuses for Bisu losing: his timing was completely off and he should not have built those extra 6 sairs which did absolutely nothing and only slowed down his robo timing.


jaedong prepared too well. Bisu was just going to do what he'd always practiced... mass +1 sair and +1 speedlot kills Zerg all too often, especially when they're passive. Jaedong hit the right timing.

also rofl "Shiny" all in
Writer
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1167
Sigh, and that is why Bisu usally adds that second cannon...

Such a silly way to lose.
God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#1168
Ahaha 4 lurkers on 3 base, clearly an all in.
Remember Violet.
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1169
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Well played by JD but Bisu pretty much handed him that game. He was completely asking for it by having just one cannon and a late robo.

Now JD just needs to make it through SKT's zergs.


to be fair the robo timing was pretty standard

bisu did cut too many corners though, 1 cannon won't cut it vs the dong
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1170
I hope Calm was watching that and took notes because he tried the same lurker ling backstab vs Bisu on this map and failed miserably in its execution. ~_~
Moderator。◕‿◕。
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1171
On March 20 2011 15:44 emoniax wrote:
SK TELECOM SLUMPINGGG!!!!!! oh sorry... SK TELECOM FIGHTINGGG!!!!!!

SKT Fiting! Go Kwanro!

+ Show Spoiler +
I miss him
"Start yo" -FlaSh
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1172
<3 Jaedong <3
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1173
I think JD discovered something again, that will put him ahead of Protosses for a while (he had this with his 3bsi5hh until it was countered with good zealot +1 timings).
He does standard 3 base, but he seems to have discovered a timing where he can start making army instead of drones to abuse the Protoss huge weakness for that timing, but can easily revert to macro as he likes. He seemed to have done that with his double-fake hydra bust against Stork previously too.
I think it's like TvZ where Z is forced to make sunkens before mutas are out, Protoss will now be forced to make more units before storm is out.
Thoughts?
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1174
On March 20 2011 15:42 MoonBear wrote:
That was actually very smart of JD, I'll give it to him. The late robo that Bisu does in order to get the fast zealot legs + corsairs leaves him extremely vulnerable to lurkers.


More like the fact that Bisu has 6 times more corsairs than cannons a whole 7 or 8 minutes into the game.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#1175
yay, good stuff jaedong. 2 more!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8166 Posts
March 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#1176
that strat from JD was actually soooo much like calm's strat vs bisu on the same map. but instead of going for a speedlot attack, bisu made 2 DTs that didnt do anything.
Free Palestine
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
March 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#1177
On March 20 2011 15:44 Oystein wrote:
Sigh, and that is why Bisu usally adds that second cannon...

Such a silly way to lose.


stream more oystein =(
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 06:47:34
March 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#1178
Hows that all-in at all? Of all the Zergs who have beaten Bisu in PL up until now, no Zerg has ever all-in'd him.

Jaedong found a sexy timing, and used it to have sexy time with Bisu. Period.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
March 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#1179
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Making 4 lurkers while on 3 base is an all in now?

LOL
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#1180
what is Craton watching?!?!?!?!?
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
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