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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1181
On March 20 2011 15:45 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Well played by JD but Bisu pretty much handed him that game. He was completely asking for it by having just one cannon and a late robo.

Now JD just needs to make it through SKT's zergs.


to be fair the robo timing was pretty standard

bisu did cut too many corners though, 1 cannon won't cut it vs the dong

Not really, the Robo seemed kinda late to me. Bisu focuses a lot on his corsairs and zealots and invests a lot in them so the lurker timing before he could get a robo was actually a smart move by JD.

I wonder how Bisu will adapt his build now people know what the weakness is?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1182
On March 20 2011 15:46 mnesthes wrote:
Hows that all-in at all? Of all the Zergs who have beaten Bisu in PL up until now, no Zerg has ever all-in'd him.

I thought someone broke him with a slow lurker drop?
My strategy is to fork people.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1183
Bisu lost, please don't call 4 lurkers on 3 base an all in =(
secret - never again
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1184
On March 20 2011 15:46 Brad` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Making 4 lurkers while on 3 base is an all in now?

LOL

Beating Bisu = all-in apparently.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1185
What happened? How did bisu not anticipate the lurkers? Did bisu miss something?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 06:49:53
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1186
That was smart of JD with his lurkers timing,wp. The lack of 2nd cannon really killed bisu TT

SKT might got RAK'd now. Hope that skt zergs or toss rookies prove me wrong though

Oh and that game also ended Bisu 4 games winning streak vs JD.

POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1187
On March 20 2011 15:45 shucklesors wrote:
I think JD discovered something again, that will put him ahead of Protosses for a while (he had this with his 3bsi5hh until it was countered with good zealot +1 timings).
He does standard 3 base, but he seems to have discovered a timing where he can start making army instead of drones to abuse the Protoss huge weakness for that timing, but can easily revert to macro as he likes. He seemed to have done that with his double-fake hydra bust against Stork previously too.
I think it's like TvZ where Z is forced to make sunkens before mutas are out, Protoss will now be forced to make more units before storm is out.
Thoughts?


That move was pretty all-innish, JD used it because Bisu played predictably
However I don't think this will be standard because if the protoss expects it and cannons up, game over
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#1188
On March 20 2011 15:46 Ideas wrote:
that strat from JD was actually soooo much like calm's strat vs bisu on the same map. but instead of going for a speedlot attack, bisu made 2 DTs that didnt do anything.

He didn't try to overextend into the main though and lose lurks and ability to kill the nat.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#1189
On March 20 2011 15:46 Brad` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Making 4 lurkers while on 3 base is an all in now?

LOL


and 5 hatches.

and on Benzene, a map that you can't sim city so if you try defend vs P push you're going to lose.
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
March 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#1190
On March 20 2011 15:42 Taekwon wrote:
i feel gay. T_T

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Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 06:49:13
March 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#1191
On March 20 2011 15:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
what is Craton watching?!?!?!?!?


star dance battle 2011 on mbc

edit: links here: + Show Spoiler +
http://twistedstars.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/performances-from-2011-mbc-star-dance-battle-special-lunar-new-year/
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44324 Posts
March 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#1192
That was really well played by Jaedong, and Bisu just wasn't ready for such a fast lurker hit.

Can't take anything away from Jaedong.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#1193

On March 20 2011 15:45 shucklesors wrote:
I think JD discovered something again, that will put him ahead of Protosses for a while (he had this with his 3bsi5hh until it was countered with good zealot +1 timings).
He does standard 3 base, but he seems to have discovered a timing where he can start making army instead of drones to abuse the Protoss huge weakness for that timing, but can easily revert to macro as he likes. He seemed to have done that with his double-fake hydra bust against Stork previously too.
I think it's like TvZ where Z is forced to make sunkens before mutas are out, Protoss will now be forced to make more units before storm is out.
Thoughts?


Its not much of a super awesome timing when an extra cannon or 2 can beat it
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1194
On March 20 2011 15:47 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:45 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
On March 20 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Well played by JD but Bisu pretty much handed him that game. He was completely asking for it by having just one cannon and a late robo.

Now JD just needs to make it through SKT's zergs.


to be fair the robo timing was pretty standard

bisu did cut too many corners though, 1 cannon won't cut it vs the dong

Not really, the Robo seemed kinda late to me. Bisu focuses a lot on his corsairs and zealots and invests a lot in them so the lurker timing before he could get a robo was actually a smart move by JD.

I wonder how Bisu will adapt his build now people know what the weakness is?


he'll just build 2 cannons instead
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1195
On March 20 2011 15:47 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:46 mnesthes wrote:
Hows that all-in at all? Of all the Zergs who have beaten Bisu in PL up until now, no Zerg has ever all-in'd him.

I thought someone broke him with a slow lurker drop?
This season, I mean.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1196
Also, it looks JvP is getting back in shape. First Stork, now Bisu. Two players he hasn't able to beat in PL forever.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1197
On March 20 2011 15:46 Brad` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Making 4 lurkers while on 3 base is an all in now?

LOL

It's disciple
connoisseur
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1198
On March 20 2011 15:48 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:46 Brad` wrote:
On March 20 2011 15:41 disciple wrote:
pretty shiny all-in

Making 4 lurkers while on 3 base is an all in now?

LOL


and 5 hatches.

and on Benzene, a map that you can't sim city so if you try defend vs P push you're going to lose.


Yep foxmeep is right

Also if it fails your eco is shit and the protoss simply rolls you over
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#1199
On March 20 2011 15:48 thunddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 15:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
what is Craton watching?!?!?!?!?


star dance battle 2011 on mbc



oh god make it stop. i wont sleep when this is over!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#1200
On a side note though, Korean girls are so freaking hot!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
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