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[SWL] Samsung KHAN v Woongjin Stars - Page 9

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pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
March 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#161
great looks weird. must be the hair
yoyo!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#162
Hoping this game does not get past Lair
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
radialis
Profile Joined November 2010
726 Posts
March 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#163
great

while zero doesn't have the best zvz, have they considered the rest of woongjin stars? light has crazy tvz

maybe i'm biased, but i think turn would be a better choice
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 15 2011 11:41 GMT
#164
On March 15 2011 20:37 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:34 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:32 hauton wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:31 pylonsalad wrote:
That was very surgical by zero. I dont know what a toss is supposed to do there.

not morph 2 archons at the first sight of mutas?


He still had a lot of storms, and he had no reason to expect zero to dodge them all.

I think I would have liked to see some reaver though.

AFAIK, he made 6 HTs and morphed the first 4 into Archons - meaning the two HTs didn't have as much energy.

As for storms, I counted... 4 maybe?

Certainly the odds were stacked against Stork - I mean the map is very open outside of the fairly wide choke. Zero had a lot of room to work with. And besides, we're not talking about some B-teamer - this is one of the best Zergs in the world. If Stork needed reminder of Zero's micro, he got one seeing Zero move his mutas.


I think there were 8 storms total. And as others have been saying, that storm dodge was just amazing, to the point that I would only "expect" it from Jaedong, and not even most of the time.

And zero's weakness has always been his micro. It's why he is so bad at ZvZ, and tries to make it not ZvZ whenever possible.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 11:42:33
March 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#165
great, yellow, 9
zero, red, 3
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#166
On March 15 2011 20:41 mnesthes wrote:
Hoping this game does not get past Lair

why?
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#167
On March 15 2011 20:41 radialis wrote:
great

while zero doesn't have the best zvz, have they considered the rest of woongjin stars? light has crazy tvz

maybe i'm biased, but i think turn would be a better choice
Icarus is never an ideal battleground for TvZ, it seems.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#168
--- Nuked ---
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#169
both with gas/ovie/pool
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#170
On March 15 2011 20:41 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:37 hauton wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:34 hacklebeast wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:32 hauton wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:31 pylonsalad wrote:
That was very surgical by zero. I dont know what a toss is supposed to do there.

not morph 2 archons at the first sight of mutas?


He still had a lot of storms, and he had no reason to expect zero to dodge them all.

I think I would have liked to see some reaver though.

AFAIK, he made 6 HTs and morphed the first 4 into Archons - meaning the two HTs didn't have as much energy.

As for storms, I counted... 4 maybe?

Certainly the odds were stacked against Stork - I mean the map is very open outside of the fairly wide choke. Zero had a lot of room to work with. And besides, we're not talking about some B-teamer - this is one of the best Zergs in the world. If Stork needed reminder of Zero's micro, he got one seeing Zero move his mutas.


I think there were 8 storms total. And as others have been saying, that storm dodge was just amazing, to the point that I would only "expect" it from Jaedong, and not even most of the time.

And zero's weakness has always been his micro. It's why he is so bad at ZvZ, and tries to make it not ZvZ whenever possible.

Zero has amazing micro. It's just he makes terrible decisions (especially in ZvZ) and gets overconfident too easily.

Speaking of which, yay time for Zero to lose again.
웅진 멘쓰즈
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#171
mirror 12 pools so far
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
March 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#172
On March 15 2011 20:41 mnesthes wrote:
Hoping this game does not get past Lair

you shut your whore mouth!

hive zvz gogogogogo!
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#173
Why didn't Samsung send out Reality or Turn? Great has no chance against Light, and Brave has no chance against Zero. Why not send out a Terran?
웅진 멘쓰즈
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 11:45:04
March 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#174
On March 15 2011 20:43 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:41 Musou wrote:
January fearlessly sending out Great to take down Zero when she knows Light is waiting for him.

It was the only choice, tbh.

Why not Brave? He has a decent record in PvZ and PvP and I'd say he probably has a better chance against Light than Great does, even with his bad PvT record.
On March 15 2011 20:44 doothegee wrote:
Why didn't Samsung send out Reality or Turn? Great has no chance against Light, and Brave has no chance against Zero. Why not send out a Terran?

Icarus is a Terran graveyard in TvZ.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#175
both starting lair, zero with inbase hatch
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#176
mirror builds, mirror inbase hatcheries
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#177
wow, both doing the same build that great used against hydra on the finals (a build that is done to make you to hive!)
BW is back
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#178
great also with hatch in his main, moving some lings out
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 15 2011 11:47 GMT
#179
zero expanding, great going to ninja expand at bottom left
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 15 2011 11:47 GMT
#180
great going for a ninja second!

lol, I think that is the first time I've ever talked abouth the "second"
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
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