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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 14 2011 12:39 GMT
#561
Such an important series to be decided by a BO hard counter... ugh.
I'd better go to sleep now I guess. It's 6 AM.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
March 14 2011 12:39 GMT
#562
On March 14 2011 21:27 Holgerius wrote:
Hehe, been spamming my love for Flash excessively all over TL for a while. :D

Good one, hehehe. Spamming LOVE. Now that is a dedicated fan, haha.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 14 2011 12:47 GMT
#563
SO happy that leta is winning again, CJ will be unstopabble with movie back, leta winning and hydra being the next king zerg
BW is back
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 14 2011 12:48 GMT
#564
Lame..
bisu fanboy
DoomSeeker
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
March 14 2011 12:49 GMT
#565
I will explain why SKT sucks in terms of tatics.
they want to be like KT in terms of sending their ace player last as they KT had been on a winning streak. But here's the problem. Flash is a terran, which is a race that has the least build order hard counters against it, even against 6 pool, you just put 2 scv on ramp repairing each other with a single marine to deflect the initial 6 lings. Secondly, Bisu sucks against any decent terran player, unlike flash who is relatively even against all races. Therefore Bisu should be sent out as their first player and not the last player as he tend to lose against any decent terrans. Fantasy should be saved for the last as he is much much more versatile player than bisu who is a kind of single matchup specialist. Therefore SKT should send Bisu out first and get as many kills as possible to give the rest of the team a boost of morals.
Moreover, sending your ace player last means that he is under a lot of pressure and does not has as much flexibility in his playstyle( he cant try risky builds), thus limiting the player's ability to play to his fullest potential.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
March 14 2011 12:49 GMT
#566
Incredible result. Why does Best always start? Still, it wouldn't have mattered.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
DoomSeeker
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
March 14 2011 12:55 GMT
#567
Coz they think he is the most dispensable guy
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 14 2011 12:57 GMT
#568
To those who keep saying Bisu sucks against any decent Terran player, I'd like to kindly inform you that it is 2011 where Bisu actually won a game with Carriers and has good PvT, not early 2010 when Bisu was hardcore slumping.

That being said, the nature of Bisu's playstyle and race makes him less dependable than Flash. He's still a very solid ace, only less dependable than Flash himself this season. SKT simply just doesn't really have any solid supporting players to work with this season (whereas KT has good ole' Stats and a resurgent Action).

And Fantasy is a horrible player to depend on at the moment
Writerptrk
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 13:04:14
March 14 2011 12:58 GMT
#569
On March 14 2011 21:49 DoomSeeker wrote:
even against 6 pool

There is no 6 pool (in bw). theres 4 and 5 pool. Also, considering that terrans generally open supply rax, the terran won't likely have a marine out. Finally, 1 marine + 2 scvs will not hold 6 lings (assuming you actually micro the weakened lings out of the 1 marine's range), however, a good player can try to pull back to his mineral line and use a large group of workers to keep the lings back when they close in. Depending on the rax position, you can snipe additional marines as they are produced, but its likely the terran will attempt to bunker up near his cc if you didn't inflict serious damage to his workers.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 14 2011 12:59 GMT
#570
Best was sent first because Bloody Ridge is an incredibly protoss favored map and Fortress, the very next map, has been his specialty since last season. They thought he'd get a PvP that he'd win and then his best map. Unless you plan on losing the first game of the series, it was the best way to get Best on Fortress.
Remember Violet.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 14 2011 13:02 GMT
#571
On March 14 2011 21:49 DoomSeeker wrote:
I will explain why SKT sucks in terms of tatics.
they want to be like KT in terms of sending their ace player last as they KT had been on a winning streak. But here's the problem. Flash is a terran, which is a race that has the least build order hard counters against it, even against 6 pool, you just put 2 scv on ramp repairing each other with a single marine to deflect the initial 6 lings. Secondly, Bisu sucks against any decent terran player, unlike flash who is relatively even against all races. Therefore Bisu should be sent out as their first player and not the last player as he tend to lose against any decent terrans. Fantasy should be saved for the last as he is much much more versatile player than bisu who is a kind of single matchup specialist. Therefore SKT should send Bisu out first and get as many kills as possible to give the rest of the team a boost of morals.
Moreover, sending your ace player last means that he is under a lot of pressure and does not has as much flexibility in his playstyle( he cant try risky builds), thus limiting the player's ability to play to his fullest potential.
lol so many things are wrong in your post :/
Bisu's PvT is pretty decent (at least in stats) and only his PvP has seemed shaky as of late.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
DoomSeeker
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
March 14 2011 13:08 GMT
#572
On March 14 2011 22:02 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 21:49 DoomSeeker wrote:
I will explain why SKT sucks in terms of tatics.
they want to be like KT in terms of sending their ace player last as they KT had been on a winning streak. But here's the problem. Flash is a terran, which is a race that has the least build order hard counters against it, even against 6 pool, you just put 2 scv on ramp repairing each other with a single marine to deflect the initial 6 lings. Secondly, Bisu sucks against any decent terran player, unlike flash who is relatively even against all races. Therefore Bisu should be sent out as their first player and not the last player as he tend to lose against any decent terrans. Fantasy should be saved for the last as he is much much more versatile player than bisu who is a kind of single matchup specialist. Therefore SKT should send Bisu out first and get as many kills as possible to give the rest of the team a boost of morals.
Moreover, sending your ace player last means that he is under a lot of pressure and does not has as much flexibility in his playstyle( he cant try risky builds), thus limiting the player's ability to play to his fullest potential.
lol so many things are wrong in your post :/
Bisu's PvT is pretty decent (at least in stats) and only his PvP has seemed shaky as of late.


For one, he should not have blindly fast expanded when he see that terran has not expand and he nvr even manage to scout what the heck the terran is doing. Even more so when the entire team is depending on him to win the match. You call that decent PvT? I beg to differ coz even I know that you shouldnt blindly fast expand when you did not scout his base and the terran nvr expand
popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
March 14 2011 13:08 GMT
#573
On March 14 2011 21:12 Hier wrote:
Fuck yeah, Leta! Keep it up.

On March 14 2011 21:13 Emon_ wrote:
Hells Yeah, Leta!

On March 14 2011 21:14 mnesthes wrote:
Yay Leta! Escape that slump!

On March 14 2011 21:14 tyCe wrote:
Leta shows who the real boss is.

On March 14 2011 21:14 Kraznaya wrote:
YEAH LETA! :3

On March 14 2011 21:47 Jackal03 wrote:
SO happy that Leta is winning again!

Online high-five to you guys!
What what the the fuck fuck? That blew my mind so much, I doubled every word in the phrase 'What the fuck' to get: 'What what the the fuck fuck my what the the fuck fucking what did the drop dropship medivac where in the what in the hell?' - Day[9]
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 14 2011 13:12 GMT
#574
Losing to Leta and Movie...how embarrassing. Terrible performance from SKT.
There is but one truth.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
March 14 2011 13:12 GMT
#575
Bisu can only do so much.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 14 2011 13:15 GMT
#576
Oh, wth SKT... I at least expected a 2-4 at least if we lost like last time, but to have only s2 win a game this time? Simply sad..... Movie has been on fire lately, but I didn't expect him to take out both BeSt and Fantasy..... SKT, you really need to step up your game, especially with your next game being against KT coming up soon.

And you can always count on trolls to pop in after SKT loses... Srsly now? :|
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
March 14 2011 13:17 GMT
#577
On March 14 2011 22:08 DoomSeeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 22:02 mnesthes wrote:
On March 14 2011 21:49 DoomSeeker wrote:
I will explain why SKT sucks in terms of tatics.
they want to be like KT in terms of sending their ace player last as they KT had been on a winning streak. But here's the problem. Flash is a terran, which is a race that has the least build order hard counters against it, even against 6 pool, you just put 2 scv on ramp repairing each other with a single marine to deflect the initial 6 lings. Secondly, Bisu sucks against any decent terran player, unlike flash who is relatively even against all races. Therefore Bisu should be sent out as their first player and not the last player as he tend to lose against any decent terrans. Fantasy should be saved for the last as he is much much more versatile player than bisu who is a kind of single matchup specialist. Therefore SKT should send Bisu out first and get as many kills as possible to give the rest of the team a boost of morals.
Moreover, sending your ace player last means that he is under a lot of pressure and does not has as much flexibility in his playstyle( he cant try risky builds), thus limiting the player's ability to play to his fullest potential.
lol so many things are wrong in your post :/
Bisu's PvT is pretty decent (at least in stats) and only his PvP has seemed shaky as of late.


For one, he should not have blindly fast expanded when he see that terran has not expand and he nvr even manage to scout what the heck the terran is doing. Even more so when the entire team is depending on him to win the match. You call that decent PvT? I beg to differ coz even I know that you shouldnt blindly fast expand when you did not scout his base and the terran nvr expand


It seems like only last week Bisu was being criticised for playing too safe when he is last out. Oh right, it was.
~
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 14 2011 13:21 GMT
#578
My favorite player using my favorite build <3 shin sang moon
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 14 2011 13:52 GMT
#579
Oh, wow- interesting result, with SKT being taken out 4-1.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 14 2011 13:55 GMT
#580
The pics tell all how SKT's performance went today...

[image loading]

Hyuk: "Oh my god, s2 what are you doing..."

[image loading]

*Sees s2 lose his whole army*
Hyuk: "OH MY GOD S2, EVEN I COULD'VE DONE BETTER THAN THAT. Why did they send that scrub out instead of me?!?"

[image loading]

Fantasy getting chastised by Coach Oov again.

Coach Oov: "y u always get tankuu sniped?? Do I have to come out of retirement and play myself next time to show you how it's done?!??"

[image loading]

Today's game rating by Coach Park: BAD.

Aslfj;jsdairjfslda SKT ==;;
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
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