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Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
February 12 2011 14:51 GMT
#1201
On February 12 2011 23:12 nozaro33 wrote:
Nada STILL laughing that his most individual league titles won won't be broken this time


Wouldn't have been broken regardless if JD won or not.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
February 12 2011 14:58 GMT
#1202
On February 12 2011 23:12 nozaro33 wrote:
Nada STILL laughing that his most individual league titles won won't be broken this time

there´s no doubt that flash will win another title in the future.... im not sure about jd though. he seemed out of it and somehow burned out. it was like that often times before and he always came back stronger than ever, but this time i have my doubts about him. i think losing to flash in 3 consecutive finals has broken his mental attitude and the toll of carrying his team on his shoulders alone might finally break him.

but gz to hydra, he really is filling out the spot as "undisputed 2nd best zerg in the world", which had been vacant since efforts departure.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
February 12 2011 15:22 GMT
#1203
If Jaedong can't get 6 titles then neither shall Flash!!! It shall be Nada's curse that 5 title holders will never win their 6th title.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 12 2011 15:51 GMT
#1204
On February 12 2011 22:44 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 22:41 King K. Rool wrote:
HYYYYYYYDRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Fuck yeah LIQUIBET

Recommended games?


Game 3 and Game 5 were probably the best. All the others were fairly uninteresting "welp player X gets demolished by player Y because his mutalisk/zergling micro was worse" or "sent overlord in wrong direction, player X loses because he has no scouting info" you've seen in every ZvZ ever played.


Game 4 was awesome (funny game)
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 15:56:54
February 12 2011 15:55 GMT
#1205
Sigh. JD . The world doesn't make sense to me anymore.

I can't think of anything more underwhelming than a Hydra v Great final. (well I do agree with others that Calm v Kwanro is worse but this is nearly as bad)
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
February 12 2011 16:18 GMT
#1206
shit i mean hydra's good.. but this good?

i mean wasn't he a scrub like 6 months ago? what great improvement! hope he takes the gold.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Darth Saros
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic245 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#1207
On February 13 2011 00:22 zenMaster wrote:
If Jaedong can't get 6 titles then neither shall Flash!!! It shall be Nada's curse that 5 title holders will never win their 6th title.


Yeah remember what you just said when Flash roflstomps all in the next season.
Only BW...And everybody and your granny should know about CYBERPUNK 2077.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#1208
On February 12 2011 18:32 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 18:27 QuakerOats wrote:
Not true at all, if he kept up the pressure with lings (which he did) he could prevent hydra from taking his 2nd gas too quickly and so even if hydra defended the lings, JD would still be in the game for a while even after mutas are out. Mass lings -> few drones -> not enough minerals/drones for a 2nd gas. Obviously the build was cheesy, for the 12hatch vs 9pool scenario, I'm just saying that the 12hatch vs 12hatch scenario which happened (where one player tries to squeeze in a few too many drones) was pretty standard.

The reason he "tried to squeeze in a few too many drones" was because he couldn't see the hatch. That's where the hatch being hidden helps. That's the cheesy part.

Do you watch a PvT with proxy robo->reaver and say "Oh sure that was just a standard PvT, the Terran just got greedy and got his turrets late"?


- Did you sense the hidden hatchery in Game 3?
▲ I saw his base with the Overlord, but I didn't see a Hatchery at his natural, so I suspected it. But I think I lost because I tried to make too many Drones. I thought I had almost won, but unfortunately I lost.

Sorry, it's kinda dirty to come back and reply hours later, but I saw that in the interview thread and I couldn't help but say "I told you so."
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
February 12 2011 16:27 GMT
#1209
WOW.

I was kinda hoping Hydra would win to be honest (JD deserves another title but it's time for some newcomers too), but I still thought JD would take it. Congrats to Hydra for an awesome showing! :D
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 12 2011 16:29 GMT
#1210
On February 13 2011 00:55 On_Slaught wrote:
Sigh. JD . The world doesn't make sense to me anymore.

I can't think of anything more underwhelming than a Hydra v Great final. (well I do agree with others that Calm v Kwanro is worse but this is nearly as bad)


I can only repeat myself: The finals will be awesome.
If Hydra would have had the build order advantage three times then I could understand the frustration. But he didn't. He deserved his victories by perfect Micro and tactics.This is not a fluke like Flash losing to Ssak/Hyuk, Bisu losing to Shine or JD losing to Hiya/HoGil.
Hydra is a legite newcomer who deserves his spot in the finals and he is up against a ZvZ sniper with a unique ZvZ style (and very lucky pairings).
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 18:00:35
February 12 2011 17:28 GMT
#1211
No surprises here. LB'd hydra because of his recent results, whereas JD has been rather lackluster.

Hydra deserves this MSL, but I still can't get hyped about it (just like the ro4 -_-).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
February 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#1212
this is shaping up to be the worst finals ever again
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
February 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#1213
This MSL was full of upsets left and right
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
February 12 2011 17:34 GMT
#1214
On February 11 2011 03:01 ssregi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 02:52 Ryo wrote:
If this were a Bo3, Hydra would probably take it. But in a Bo5, I'd give Jaedong the edge. I hope he doesn't underestimate Hydra though or this could end badly.

If this were Bo3
JD will 2 - 0
If this were Bo 5
Hmmm...... 3 - 0 Ez



Hydra is on a run right now but he will fall just like Effort/Shine. Predicting 3-2 Jaedong.


JD gonna 3-0. foshoo


huh

and how about that poll in the OP?
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
February 12 2011 18:16 GMT
#1215
If I felt like it, I'd go dig up the guy telling me Jaedong is going to crush Hydra into retirement just like he did Effort.

Hawhawhawhaw.

I'd also quote myself where I said that the series was going to be neither a Jaedong or a Hydra roflstop, all the "lololol JD 3-0" comments...predicting that was like predicting Fantasy 3-0ing Stork before it happened.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 12 2011 18:17 GMT
#1216
wo
woww

woww..
wtf

hm.. i dunno who to root for now! i like both gret and hydra ;o
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 18:44:04
February 12 2011 18:41 GMT
#1217
On February 12 2011 23:12 nozaro33 wrote:
Nada STILL laughing that his most individual league titles won won't be broken this time


Wouldn't have been broken anyway lolol. Tied doesn't = broken .

Still sad to see Jaedong lose I'm not too surprised though either just because I haven't been confident in jaedong playing in any series either bo5/bo3 int he past few months after seeing how non dominant he is. He's just not really "crushing" anybody ever anymore. They are either some comeback or just a very close game which makes for entertainment but Jaedong's definitely imo lost his edge of dominance.

I hope he can come back but I'm starting to think he won't . Only time will tell of course hope he comes back strong but not looking good imo .

And of course Hydra has been playing very good lately not going to take it away from him at all. He is the 2nd player ever I think to beat jaedong in a game 5 of bo5? (flash being the first?). So Props to him while I do wish Jaedong had won I do give hydra respect and what he deserves he played good and out micro'd jaedong in muta battles it seemed every time (didn't see games 3-5 going by 1-2 ).

Dunno who i want to win honestly don't care about the finals I do wish Zero or Calm had made it through they are my favorite zergs to watch after Jaedong
When I think of something else, something will go here
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
February 12 2011 18:42 GMT
#1218
On February 12 2011 22:26 okum wrote:
Hahaha, all the people who act all like BW is over because Jaedong didn't reach a final (Flash fans say hi).

The outcome is fantastic. Not that Jaedong is "losing it" (which I honestly doubt) but that we have newcomers in Snow and especially Hydra who are able to step up to his level. This is the first time in ages that the S-class looks like it might get some fresh blood (Effort more or less got there, but Hydra is looking even more impressive). How can this be bad?

I'm pretty excited about the MSL final as well. Clearly Hydra and great are the two most interesting ZvZ players at the moment, and there are some developments going on in the matchup. This is nothing like Calm vs Kwanro, who were both mediocre and boring (except for Kwanro's affinity for 4 pools... and losing with them).


I agree. How great is it that JD/Flash/Bisu/Stork are all playing very well, and yet we even have a fifth player (Hydra) who is at their incredibly high level? Then there's a chance that Snow is actually going to get there too (he was born in 94). I fail to see how this is a bad thing, as Effort's the only non-TaekBangLeeSsang player in the last few years to step up to that elite level for an extended period of time.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 12 2011 18:50 GMT
#1219
On February 13 2011 03:42 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 22:26 okum wrote:
Hahaha, all the people who act all like BW is over because Jaedong didn't reach a final (Flash fans say hi).

The outcome is fantastic. Not that Jaedong is "losing it" (which I honestly doubt) but that we have newcomers in Snow and especially Hydra who are able to step up to his level. This is the first time in ages that the S-class looks like it might get some fresh blood (Effort more or less got there, but Hydra is looking even more impressive). How can this be bad?

I'm pretty excited about the MSL final as well. Clearly Hydra and great are the two most interesting ZvZ players at the moment, and there are some developments going on in the matchup. This is nothing like Calm vs Kwanro, who were both mediocre and boring (except for Kwanro's affinity for 4 pools... and losing with them).


I agree. How great is it that JD/Flash/Bisu/Stork are all playing very well, and yet we even have a fifth player (Hydra) who is at their incredibly high level? Then there's a chance that Snow is actually going to get there too (he was born in 94). I fail to see how this is a bad thing, as Effort's the only non-TaekBangLeeSsang player in the last few years to step up to that elite level for an extended period of time.


To be honest, I am VERY VERY sad that Effort is gone. I rather want Effort to take over Jaedong's throne as the number 1 Zerg than Hydra. Cuz Effort has this aura around him that just makes him....majestic
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
February 12 2011 18:54 GMT
#1220
On February 13 2011 03:50 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 03:42 darktreb wrote:
On February 12 2011 22:26 okum wrote:
Hahaha, all the people who act all like BW is over because Jaedong didn't reach a final (Flash fans say hi).

The outcome is fantastic. Not that Jaedong is "losing it" (which I honestly doubt) but that we have newcomers in Snow and especially Hydra who are able to step up to his level. This is the first time in ages that the S-class looks like it might get some fresh blood (Effort more or less got there, but Hydra is looking even more impressive). How can this be bad?

I'm pretty excited about the MSL final as well. Clearly Hydra and great are the two most interesting ZvZ players at the moment, and there are some developments going on in the matchup. This is nothing like Calm vs Kwanro, who were both mediocre and boring (except for Kwanro's affinity for 4 pools... and losing with them).


I agree. How great is it that JD/Flash/Bisu/Stork are all playing very well, and yet we even have a fifth player (Hydra) who is at their incredibly high level? Then there's a chance that Snow is actually going to get there too (he was born in 94). I fail to see how this is a bad thing, as Effort's the only non-TaekBangLeeSsang player in the last few years to step up to that elite level for an extended period of time.


To be honest, I am VERY VERY sad that Effort is gone. I rather want Effort to take over Jaedong's throne as the number 1 Zerg than Hydra. Cuz Effort has this aura around him that just makes him....majestic


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