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ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
On February 12 2011 18:48 Kenpachi wrote:+ Show Spoiler [I was right] +On February 10 2011 13:51 Kenpachi wrote:
can anyone explain to me how Hydra could possibly lose? Clearly he has the stronger mentality, better ZvZ, stronger gameplay, solid mechanics, incredible Muta micro, and the power of Efforts.
Jaedong? well, he played significantly less ZvZs, has a knack for slacking recently, not the god of ZvZ anymore and his Bo5 record was destroy in 2010.
Hydra 3-0 yo. On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 13:58 blue001 wrote:
Kenpachi you haven't proved any of the points you made. Stronger mentality? Jaedong always fights for his life like vs Snow. Better ZvZ? Jaedong's ultimate record shows he has Bo5 experience and ZvZ experience that is backed by his micro.. Also Jaedong annihilated Effort... So.. If he has the power of effort he'll probably fall like effort too. Hydra's recent ZvZ records could be a one-time win streak thing which is going to be ended by Jaedong, he doesn't have a good ZvZ history to show consistency like Jaedong Stronger Mentality - Destroys everyone. Annihilates with the CJ face without even blinking. (Bisu Jaedong Calm are just a few examples) Jaedong even admitted he wasnt playing top tier vs Snow. Jaedong probably only takes it seriously vs the likes of Stork, Bisu and Flash. Who else is good enough to take down Jaedong in a Bo5? Hydra Recent ZvZ shows Hydra will be more prepared. Power of Effort in a specialty unit. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon? On February 10 2011 14:05 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 14:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JvZ.
'Nuff said.
No Flash, No Problem. 3-0. JVZ IS NO MORE HVZ HVZ HVZ!!!!!!  On February 11 2011 10:41 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 10:14 Lightwip wrote:GO JAEDONG GO! You are not mortal as all the haters say, you are GOD TIER. Show these two zergs who the true overmind is. + Show Spoiler +Bisu is more awesome though. And more skilled. If Hydra > Bisu > Jaedong, then Hydra > Jaedong. On February 11 2011 14:16 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:16 BisuDagger wrote:On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:On February 10 2011 13:58 blue001 wrote:
Kenpachi you haven't proved any of the points you made. Stronger mentality? Jaedong always fights for his life like vs Snow. Better ZvZ? Jaedong's ultimate record shows he has Bo5 experience and ZvZ experience that is backed by his micro.. Also Jaedong annihilated Effort... So.. If he has the power of effort he'll probably fall like effort too. Hydra's recent ZvZ records could be a one-time win streak thing which is going to be ended by Jaedong, he doesn't have a good ZvZ history to show consistency like Jaedong Stronger Mentality - Destroys everyone. Annihilates with the CJ face without even blinking. (Bisu Jaedong Calm are just a few examples) Jaedong even admitted he wasnt playing top tier vs Snow. Jaedong probably only takes it seriously vs the likes of Stork, Bisu and Flash. Who else is good enough to take down Jaedong in a Bo5? Hydra Recent ZvZ shows Hydra will be more prepared. Power of Effort in a specialty unit. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon? Let's disprove you one at a time. Stronger Mentality: Jaedong has come back again and again to the Ro4 and finals consistently even after being defeated by the god flash. He has no record of a slump. He has the better ZvZ elo. And he never takes a win for granted. Every interview he tell them he will train harder and win better. Jaedong admitted he wasn't playing to tier to snow: So this means when JD does play top tier its gonna be something fierce. Because he played pretty damn well against a flawless playing snow. Who else is good enough to take JD down? After defending JD, I will admit who can actually beat him. KT Flash. has consistently beat him in the Bo5 last year. and I doubt Hydra is in the same league as Flash. Recent ZvZ shows hydra will be more prepared: ....What?!? JD has the most experience in this match up. He defeated Fake Yellow in the finals a couple years back. He's more then prepared and more experienced. Power of Effort in a specialty unit: That makes no sense. So Im going to assume you mean he's alien to. Which is unlikely. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon?: . .. ... JvZ...that is all Stronger Mentality- DO YOU EVEN WATCH THEM PLAY? Jaedong has been shaky as fuck while hydra just stomps people down. Other than his series vs Snow .. I was just saying that Jaedong's Bo5 Record was tainted and probably stopped working after Flash took him down so many times. Recent ZvZ. How many ZvZs did they both play since Early December? Effort was well known for ling control. JvZ doesnt exist anymore. its done. now its normal ZvZ because Jaedong cant dominate from a BO disadvantage anymore. :D IN YOUR FACE PEOPLE :D
I BELIEVED IN YOU!
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On February 12 2011 18:49 Zona wrote:
It's not Avalon all over again because once Hydra wins this gold, he'll still keep performing and will prove that he's worthy.
Not revert to some mediocre zerg who is slightly better than average.
how do you be mediocre but at the same time be better than average?
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so who's gonna be watching next week?
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 Well, JD, you came pretty damn close. I still believe in you.
JvZ will return!
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One of the best Bo5 ZvZ ever? In terms of suspense of course 
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Damn you Hydra!
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I've got the feeling that the finals can only disappoint after this.
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On February 12 2011 18:50 ssregi- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 18:47 Keidy wrote:On February 12 2011 18:44 ssregi- wrote:
Ok i'm done with BW Same, It was great, but everything must come to and end. Bye! Ok but u mean an end
goodbye BW
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On February 12 2011 18:50 ssregi- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 18:47 Keidy wrote:On February 12 2011 18:44 ssregi- wrote:
Ok i'm done with BW Same, It was great, but everything must come to and end. Bye! Ok but u mean an end
Didn't everyone say this after one game before? Flash vs Ssak?
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On February 12 2011 18:48 Doraemon wrote:
MBC chiefs won't be happy
Perhaps. But Samsung is a very well supported team and Hydra seems to have many fans.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
That what had to be expected happened. JD was not the favorite for this. Not because he slumps but because Hydra is insanely good.
It was no fluke and no luck, Hydra is just an awesome player.
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On February 12 2011 18:45 GTR wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet/showgraph.php?liquibet=255)
![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/15zfpmu.jpg)
Hells yes, playing the odds finally worked out! Good on ya Hydra, I was kind of rooting for you!
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On February 12 2011 18:47 flamewheel wrote:
Also, updating ELO...
2302
2280
Wow.
so, how much ELO does hydra have after this game?
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On February 12 2011 18:49 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 18:44 raga4ka wrote:
For the first time since 2007 there is a better zerg playing BW then JD . Uh, no. He is totally unproven in ZvT.
62% against mid tier, but descent tvz'ers
Whats your point?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
Great must create some hive tech ZvZ against Hydra.
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On February 12 2011 18:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 18:48 Kenpachi wrote:+ Show Spoiler [I was right] +On February 10 2011 13:51 Kenpachi wrote:
can anyone explain to me how Hydra could possibly lose? Clearly he has the stronger mentality, better ZvZ, stronger gameplay, solid mechanics, incredible Muta micro, and the power of Efforts.
Jaedong? well, he played significantly less ZvZs, has a knack for slacking recently, not the god of ZvZ anymore and his Bo5 record was destroy in 2010.
Hydra 3-0 yo. On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 13:58 blue001 wrote:
Kenpachi you haven't proved any of the points you made. Stronger mentality? Jaedong always fights for his life like vs Snow. Better ZvZ? Jaedong's ultimate record shows he has Bo5 experience and ZvZ experience that is backed by his micro.. Also Jaedong annihilated Effort... So.. If he has the power of effort he'll probably fall like effort too. Hydra's recent ZvZ records could be a one-time win streak thing which is going to be ended by Jaedong, he doesn't have a good ZvZ history to show consistency like Jaedong Stronger Mentality - Destroys everyone. Annihilates with the CJ face without even blinking. (Bisu Jaedong Calm are just a few examples) Jaedong even admitted he wasnt playing top tier vs Snow. Jaedong probably only takes it seriously vs the likes of Stork, Bisu and Flash. Who else is good enough to take down Jaedong in a Bo5? Hydra Recent ZvZ shows Hydra will be more prepared. Power of Effort in a specialty unit. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon? On February 10 2011 14:05 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 14:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JvZ.
'Nuff said.
No Flash, No Problem. 3-0. JVZ IS NO MORE HVZ HVZ HVZ!!!!!! On February 11 2011 10:41 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 10:14 Lightwip wrote:GO JAEDONG GO! You are not mortal as all the haters say, you are GOD TIER. Show these two zergs who the true overmind is. + Show Spoiler +Bisu is more awesome though. And more skilled. If Hydra > Bisu > Jaedong, then Hydra > Jaedong. On February 11 2011 14:16 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:16 BisuDagger wrote:On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:On February 10 2011 13:58 blue001 wrote:
Kenpachi you haven't proved any of the points you made. Stronger mentality? Jaedong always fights for his life like vs Snow. Better ZvZ? Jaedong's ultimate record shows he has Bo5 experience and ZvZ experience that is backed by his micro.. Also Jaedong annihilated Effort... So.. If he has the power of effort he'll probably fall like effort too. Hydra's recent ZvZ records could be a one-time win streak thing which is going to be ended by Jaedong, he doesn't have a good ZvZ history to show consistency like Jaedong Stronger Mentality - Destroys everyone. Annihilates with the CJ face without even blinking. (Bisu Jaedong Calm are just a few examples) Jaedong even admitted he wasnt playing top tier vs Snow. Jaedong probably only takes it seriously vs the likes of Stork, Bisu and Flash. Who else is good enough to take down Jaedong in a Bo5? Hydra Recent ZvZ shows Hydra will be more prepared. Power of Effort in a specialty unit. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon? Let's disprove you one at a time. Stronger Mentality: Jaedong has come back again and again to the Ro4 and finals consistently even after being defeated by the god flash. He has no record of a slump. He has the better ZvZ elo. And he never takes a win for granted. Every interview he tell them he will train harder and win better. Jaedong admitted he wasn't playing to tier to snow: So this means when JD does play top tier its gonna be something fierce. Because he played pretty damn well against a flawless playing snow. Who else is good enough to take JD down? After defending JD, I will admit who can actually beat him. KT Flash. has consistently beat him in the Bo5 last year. and I doubt Hydra is in the same league as Flash. Recent ZvZ shows hydra will be more prepared: ....What?!? JD has the most experience in this match up. He defeated Fake Yellow in the finals a couple years back. He's more then prepared and more experienced. Power of Effort in a specialty unit: That makes no sense. So Im going to assume you mean he's alien to. Which is unlikely. Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon?: . .. ... JvZ...that is all Stronger Mentality- DO YOU EVEN WATCH THEM PLAY? Jaedong has been shaky as fuck while hydra just stomps people down. Other than his series vs Snow .. I was just saying that Jaedong's Bo5 Record was tainted and probably stopped working after Flash took him down so many times. Recent ZvZ. How many ZvZs did they both play since Early December? Effort was well known for ling control. JvZ doesnt exist anymore. its done. now its normal ZvZ because Jaedong cant dominate from a BO disadvantage anymore. :D IN YOUR FACE PEOPLE :D I BELIEVED IN YOU!
HIGH FIVE! 
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On February 12 2011 18:49 Goragoth wrote:
Yay, another month where Flash gets to coast at #1 PR even though he isn't in any league (I mean seriously, the only thing that would get him knocked would have been Jaedong winning the MSL). FML. Hydra, you better keep this up and actually dominate hard and not go into huge slumps the way EffOrt did. What the hell is wrong with you?
Leave Flash out of this.
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There is a new dong in town.
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FUCK. REALLY.
ok i'll sleep now. someone wake me up for the real MSL RO4 later
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EPT
