On February 10 2011 13:51 Kenpachi wrote:
can anyone explain to me how Hydra could possibly lose? Clearly he has the stronger mentality, better ZvZ, stronger gameplay, solid mechanics, incredible Muta micro, and the power of Efforts.

Jaedong? well, he played significantly less ZvZs, has a knack for slacking recently, not the god of ZvZ anymore and his Bo5 record was destroy in 2010.

Hydra 3-0 yo.

On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:

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Stronger Mentality - Destroys everyone. Annihilates with the CJ face without even blinking. (Bisu Jaedong Calm are just a few examples)
Jaedong even admitted he wasnt playing top tier vs Snow. Jaedong probably only takes it seriously vs the likes of Stork, Bisu and Flash.
Who else is good enough to take down Jaedong in a Bo5? Hydra
Recent ZvZ shows Hydra will be more prepared.
Power of Effort in a specialty unit.
Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon?

On February 10 2011 14:05 Kenpachi wrote:

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JVZ IS NO MORE
HVZ
HVZ
HVZ!!!!!!

On February 11 2011 10:41 Kenpachi wrote:

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If Hydra > Bisu > Jaedong, then Hydra > Jaedong.

On February 11 2011 14:16 Kenpachi wrote:

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On February 11 2011 13:16 BisuDagger wrote:

On February 10 2011 14:03 Kenpachi wrote:

On February 10 2011 13:58 blue001 wrote:
Kenpachi you haven't proved any of the points you made. Stronger mentality? Jaedong always fights for his life like vs Snow. Better ZvZ? Jaedong's ultimate record shows he has Bo5 experience and ZvZ experience that is backed by his micro.. Also Jaedong annihilated Effort... So.. If he has the power of effort he'll probably fall like effort too. Hydra's recent ZvZ records could be a one-time win streak thing which is going to be ended by Jaedong, he doesn't have a good ZvZ history to show consistency like Jaedong

Let's disprove you one at a time.
Stronger Mentality: Jaedong has come back again and again to the Ro4 and finals consistently even after being defeated by the god flash. He has no record of a slump. He has the better ZvZ elo. And he never takes a win for granted. Every interview he tell them he will train harder and win better.

Jaedong admitted he wasn't playing to tier to snow: So this means when JD does play top tier its gonna be something fierce. Because he played pretty damn well against a flawless playing snow.

Who else is good enough to take JD down? After defending JD, I will admit who can actually beat him. KT Flash. has consistently beat him in the Bo5 last year. and I doubt Hydra is in the same league as Flash.

Recent ZvZ shows hydra will be more prepared: ....What?!? JD has the most experience in this match up. He defeated Fake Yellow in the finals a couple years back. He's more then prepared and more experienced.

Power of Effort in a specialty unit: That makes no sense. So Im going to assume you mean he's alien to. Which is unlikely.

Explain to me why Hydra's 1 time streak isnt coming to an end any time soon?:
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JvZ...that is all

Stronger Mentality- DO YOU EVEN WATCH THEM PLAY? Jaedong has been shaky as fuck while hydra just stomps people down. Other than his series vs Snow ..

I was just saying that Jaedong's Bo5 Record was tainted and probably stopped working after Flash took him down so many times.

Recent ZvZ. How many ZvZs did they both play since Early December?

Effort was well known for ling control.

JvZ doesnt exist anymore. its done. now its normal ZvZ because Jaedong cant dominate from a BO disadvantage anymore.

:D IN YOUR FACE PEOPLE :D

LG)Sabbath

Argentina3024 Posts

February 12 2011 09:48 GMT

#1064

hydra vs great will be a good series, both are playing some great zvz

Cedstick

Canada3336 Posts

February 12 2011 09:48 GMT

#1065

If he wins this, Royal Roader, right? Or is this his second season?

Womwomwom

5930 Posts

February 12 2011 09:48 GMT

#1066

On February 12 2011 18:46 jalstar wrote:

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Well Hydra then is better than Calm or Kwanro were then.

Then again, great.

Well yeah Great is pretty much the deciding factor. This would very well become a repeat of Savior vs Silver simply because the Samsung coaching staff is pretty much useless.

Doraemon

Australia14949 Posts

February 12 2011 09:48 GMT

#1067

MBC chiefs won't be happy

GeLaar

2421 Posts

February 12 2011 09:48 GMT

#1068

It's pretty clear which element of the ZvZ match-up Hydra practiced to death. He just beat Jaedong in all three times that went to Muta battles.

Rokevo

Finland1033 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1069

sigh..

Cant remember the last time I was this sad. Wont even bother watching the finals now

Zona

40426 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1070

It's not Avalon all over again because once Hydra wins this gold, he'll still keep performing and will prove that he's worthy.

Not revert to some mediocre zerg who is slightly better than average.

Kaolla

China2999 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1071

This def shows zvz can be fun to watch, looking forward to the finals, both players rock so i dont rly care that much who wins

Guess i'll root for great since he's more oldschool ^^

Release

United States4397 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1072

On February 12 2011 18:48 alypse wrote:
The good thing is Flash stays #1

Unrelated, though i hope to see hydra vs flash in a bo5.
Probably 3-0 flash but you never know.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES51379 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1073

On February 12 2011 18:47 doothegee wrote:
I think Hydra might (potentially) be better than Effort was.

Which is really scary, if you think about it.

one must take the dream league very seriously,which is why OZ will get its new Protoss ace sHy.

jjhchsc2

Korea (South)2393 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1074

On February 12 2011 18:49 Rokevo wrote:
sigh..

Cant remember the last time I was this sad. Wont even bother watching the finals now

Goragoth

New Zealand1065 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1075

Yay, another month where Flash gets to coast at #1 PR even though he isn't in any league (I mean seriously, the only thing that would get him knocked would have been Jaedong winning the MSL). FML. Hydra, you better keep this up and actually dominate hard and not go into huge slumps the way EffOrt did.

samachking

Bahrain4949 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1076

Since Ever 07, JD has made a finals every single season except during the 6 dragons season in late 08. It's a shame he didn't reach it this time, but Hydra outplayed him in his game and deserved it.

deafhobbit

United States828 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1077

Hell yeah - so glad to see a new generation of players succeeding.

J1.au

Australia3596 Posts

February 12 2011 09:49 GMT

#1078

On February 12 2011 18:44 raga4ka wrote:
For the first time since 2007 there is a better zerg playing BW then JD .

Uh, no.

He is totally unproven in ZvT.

DropBear

Australia4435 Posts

February 12 2011 09:50 GMT

#1079

On February 12 2011 18:45 Spazer wrote:

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I am so very glad I made this now.

Oh wow that's awesome haha. Can a mod put this in the results?
Whoever said in the thread that jd would lose headbutting hydra with mutas was right it seems.