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Askalaphos
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany772 Posts
January 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#301
On January 25 2011 20:13 mustaju wrote:
I don't want to come off as a JD hater. Really, I love the Dong and don't care if he wins or loses. But he's just not S-class anymore.
Yes, that's true.

I hope so, he wins this MSL, because that is possibly the last title he wins...


FavZerg: EffOrt, Jaedong; FavProtoss: Movie, Kal; FavTerran: BaBy, Leta
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:23:53
January 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#302
On January 25 2011 20:11 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:07 Goragoth wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:02 mustaju wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:00 rainei wrote:
wow. Extended heart attack. That was quite the entertaining game. Surprisingly, he played a similar game vs Baby a while ago where he was in a rather disadvantageous position and battled back to win it.

At so many points in the game, Last was so close to breaking JD's spine, but somehow JD would defend by a sliver.

Honestly, while watching that game, would you call the Zerg Jaedong not knowing that he's playing? JD used to be so much better than this.

Really? What other Zerg right now would you say could play like that? The multi-tasking, the micro, the decision making... He's still the best. (Zero can play at this level but only sometimes).

Hydra, to be frank. Hydra has been a lot more dominant than Jaedong for the entire season, and while I do think Zerg in general suck right now, I wouldn't call that play anywhere near good even by Zerg standards.

no quite dominant, they both have similar stats in 38 last games (38-10). I think you mean the style of his games? yes, don't forget Hydra has momentum and his current top form, JD is just playing on a regular mode. So its indeed very very difficult to compare. Should we take JD in his prime, top form, would you call Hydra an opponent?

an addition, I do agree that JD's play dropped a little, to the level that any decent player is a threat to him, he used to play such games a lot better just couple of months ago. Dunno, JD had a little slump some time ago, I think he can put it together when needed
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:21:24
January 25 2011 11:20 GMT
#303
bogus hesitates and retreats. i'm calling it for jaedong right now.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 25 2011 11:20 GMT
#304
Good timing and econ from JD with 3 hatches surprisingly off a pool first build.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#305
Being a marine, how would you feel if you heard JD's mutas scream in the night? ^^
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
January 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#306
On January 25 2011 20:19 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:11 mustaju wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:07 Goragoth wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:02 mustaju wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:00 rainei wrote:
wow. Extended heart attack. That was quite the entertaining game. Surprisingly, he played a similar game vs Baby a while ago where he was in a rather disadvantageous position and battled back to win it.

At so many points in the game, Last was so close to breaking JD's spine, but somehow JD would defend by a sliver.

Honestly, while watching that game, would you call the Zerg Jaedong not knowing that he's playing? JD used to be so much better than this.

Really? What other Zerg right now would you say could play like that? The multi-tasking, the micro, the decision making... He's still the best. (Zero can play at this level but only sometimes).

Hydra, to be frank. Hydra has been a lot more dominant than Jaedong for the entire season, and while I do think Zerg in general suck right now, I wouldn't call that play anywhere near good even by Zerg standards.

no quite dominant, they both have similar stats in 38 last games (38-10). I think you mean the style? yes, don't forget Hydra has momentum and his current top form, JD is just playing on a regular mode. So its indeed very very difficult to compare. Should we take JD in his prime, top form, would you call Hydra an opponent?

That's exactly it. Hydra's games looked like he was never really behind, it was just inconveniences till he won. JD used to look like that. Now he doesn't.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
January 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#307
Take that muta micro!
Flash returns...
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#308
Is this the dong you guys wanted?
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 25 2011 11:22 GMT
#309
Looks like Jaedong wanted to practice muta micro today.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 25 2011 11:22 GMT
#310
On January 25 2011 20:17 oBlade wrote:
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On January 25 2011 20:10 tabula rasa wrote:
But jaedong really seems to love that lategame hive tech play.

Yeah. I don't know whether his aggressive side hasn't stayed as powerful or whether he has worked more on management. But some of Jaedong's best games are the really close walkovers, if that oxymoron makes sense. The games where he just barely kills his opponent - sometimes even Flash - with muta/ling only.


It is a general trend zerg players start agressive and tend to transition into more lategame oriented play as they get older, must be something connected with teenage-angst

Unless you are Kwanro, Kwanro stays true to himself!

And as I am typing this Jaedong is raping Bogus with mutas :D
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 25 2011 11:23 GMT
#311
On January 25 2011 20:21 samachking wrote:
Is this the dong you guys wanted?

Same Jaedong, Bogus just left an opening which Last didn't.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 25 2011 11:23 GMT
#312
Jaedong loves himself some Hive these days, almost done already.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 25 2011 11:23 GMT
#313
On January 25 2011 20:13 mustaju wrote:
I don't want to come off as a JD hater. Really, I love the Dong and don't care if he wins or loses. But he's just not S-class anymore.

There's form and then there's class. Jaedong is in poor form but that doesn't mean he isn't S-class anymore.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 25 2011 11:23 GMT
#314
Bogus going for the siege tank pre-defiler timing push, JD stomps part of his army. JD has the map for now.
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
January 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#315
That was really good, I'll admit.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
January 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#316
JD on too much fire it seems. Not much Bogus can do.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#317
predicts dropship, nice.
POGGERS
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#318
OWNED
LOL
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#319
dayummmmmmmmmmmm
POGGERS
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 25 2011 11:25 GMT
#320
DROPSHIP SNIPED

JD on top of his game.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
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