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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 16 2011 05:10 GMT
#181
Oh yeah I forgot:

Jaehoon yellow toss at 6
Stork red toss at 3

Yellow Jaehoon's lucky color?
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 16 2011 05:11 GMT
#182
On January 16 2011 14:06 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:51 ArvickHero wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:42 Musoeun wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:38 infinity2k9 wrote:
Have i missed something how did PvZ suddenly swing in P's favour recently. The maps are not even particularly good... this greedy playstyle every Z tries to do never works now. I only caught the end of the Great game but it looks like he was attempting the 4base turtle on 2 mains strat, which i've seen lose ALL THE TIME, it does not work stop fucking doing it!


Short answer: protoss have finally stopped skimping on the corsairs.
Long answer: I don't actually know, the short answer is just one of my pet peeves, I'm so happy that most protoss are finally making more than 2. Jangbi used to lose PvZ like that all the time: 2 corsair -> scourged -> fail DT -> epic storms that just don't dent a massively ahead zerg army. (Of course, now PvZ is all he's good at, so w/e).

I'd say its the change in the fundamental strategy of PvZ. Before, it was 4 Gate 2 Archon, which was powerful, but hit at too late of a timing (in today's timings at least) and was susceptible to Hydra busts. With 4 Gate 2 Archon, you didn't really have the money to spare for the 6 sairs.

Now that the fundamental strat of PvZ is the 2 Gate +1 Speedlot rush, it hits at a faster timing (which sometimes ends up killing zergs outright if they don't have enough defense up in time) and it gets the 6 sairs (because it is necessary for defense agianst Muta openings).

Also a lot of weird offbeat strats are being invented in PvZ, like the ones Jaehoon is using.


I'm just surprised Zergs have not changed up play already. Just in the past few weeks it's clear going for fast 4base doesn't work against any decent opponent even with a good simcity. I think they need to go back to basics and good old fashion aggressive ZvP (not hydra busts though). Muta's are being made to look as bad as trying to use wraiths against P in recent games except the odd really bad P player. They should take the normal 3rd for a change instead of another nat so they can reinforce quicker and put an end to these easy early-mid game wins for P.

3 Base Hydra/Lurker/Muta is risky as hell though, the most successful game of this recently I'd say was Action vs Bisu, but that's only because Bisu was sloppy with his early sairs and totally completely lost all air-control. In the crucial battle, if Bisu didn't get his HT sniped he would've steamrolled through Action.

4 Base turtle works, its just that progamers are getting TOO greedy w/ the strategy and attempt to cut way too many corners (that smart protosses abuse)
Writerptrk
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 16 2011 05:12 GMT
#183
Stork has the position advantage, wonder if he'll be abusing it like crazy lol
Writerptrk
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 16 2011 05:13 GMT
#184
Stork with shuttle headed out towards Jaehoon's mineral line, but Jaehoon's goons spot it and chase it away.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 16 2011 05:13 GMT
#185
Wow, what the hell? Jaehoon close to an all-kill? I should have been watching this.

How were the games up to this point?
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#186
OHHHHHHHH~!
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#187
oh god please stork just win dont let this scrub ak
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#188
O__O
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#189
DID THAT JUST HAPPEN
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#190
Jaehoon's shuttle headed towards Stork's mineral line and his reaver gets a SCARAB DAEBAAAAAAAAAAAAK

Bad luck for Stork today? OAO;;
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Xenoismo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States38 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#191
WTF ALL THOSE PROBEES
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#192
holy motherfucker was that 7+ probes?
Writerptrk
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#193
wow
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
wozjflwnl
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada344 Posts
January 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#194
WOOOOO JAEHOON ALL KILL!
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#195
Stork Holds!
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#196
Goddamnit. I had Jaehoon for R2 but dropped him -_-.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#197
On January 16 2011 14:14 ArvickHero wrote:
holy motherfucker was that 7+ probes?

Definitely more.
Slaynte
Profile Joined April 2010
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 05:17:24
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#198
On January 16 2011 14:14 Stretsful wrote:
WOOOOO JAEHOON ALL KILL!


lies less :/
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#199
SONG BYUNG GOO HOLDS
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 05:18:19
January 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#200
Stork tries to harass Jaehoon's mineral line again but all he gets are dud scarabs!

Jaehoon pushing into Stork's base with 2 reavers, but Stork has 3 reavers himself!

Stork snipes both of Jaehoon's reavers; Jaehoon loses the battle with all of his goons melted!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
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