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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 14 2011 22:42 GMT
#1581
There is a huge difference between Fantasy's TvZ and TvP. He has this amazing ability to make flabbergastingly stupid decisions in TvZ (sometimes he can play in a way that makes JD look like a fool though ) while his TvP is about as solid as can be. So judging his ability to take down Stork based on how he played vs Calm is dumb.

That being said, Stork's PvT is retardedly good. I think it would be close and entertaining. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
January 14 2011 22:59 GMT
#1582
man calm had the lead at a point in every game (except maybe the 4th I guess). While his overaggression paid off in the 1st game, it just wasn't good enough in games 2/5.

man those fucking wraiths :\

I wonder if it would of actually been a good idea to still drone scout in the 4th set. he would of been able to stall baracks longer and possibly stop the wall from getting put up. it's not like he needed the extra drone mining anyway.
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zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
January 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#1583
ah so good!

i dont think he cant win TvP though. hope it's a good series atleast!
TYBG
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
January 14 2011 23:49 GMT
#1584
This was indeed a poor man's Flash VS Jaedong.

The last person to 4 pool twice in a row was Jaedong, and it went the exact same way this did: win the first one, lose the second one.
Jaedong plz
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 23:54:09
January 14 2011 23:53 GMT
#1585
Fantasy is prolly the one guy who deserves an individual league title the most right now. He has been an absolute force for over a year and his ELO peak holds the company of many other individual league winners.
Stork is arguably in the best shape of his BW career, so he might just deny it from Fantasy unless he gets burned out from being in two leagues, which very well might happen.
THE ANSWER IS 288
crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
January 14 2011 23:56 GMT
#1586
Calm could have won the last game if he mass expod after the first hydra bust which killed nearly all fantasy's army. Pure mass is the only counter to mech. Clever hydra/queen play never works. When just talking army composition zerg has no counter to mech.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 00:02:22
January 15 2011 00:01 GMT
#1587
I'm a fan of a player who I thought was the most talented player to ever play the game, yet only had 1 single title to his name (something that changed dramatically in 2010). I can totally understand the happiness Fantasy-fans would feel if he finally got that Starleague win.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 15 2011 00:16 GMT
#1588
On January 15 2011 06:27 xarthaz wrote:
Humiliating decisions by Calm.. Come on, is 4 pools and hydra/lurkling all ins the best zerg can do? What about beastly late game play like soulkey or action?

He did builds that do well against fantasy's trademark abusive/greedy openings. Trying to wall your nat with a standard rax and going gas first deserves to be 4 pooled. He often has gaping holes in his strategies where he just assumes the zerg will play standard and he has few units. Off-beat builds are the way to take it to him so you can't blame calm for mixing it up.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 00:32:23
January 15 2011 00:31 GMT
#1589
On January 15 2011 09:01 Holgerius wrote:
I'm a fan of a player who I thought was the most talented player to ever play the game, yet only had 1 single title to his name (something that changed dramatically in 2010). I can totally understand the happiness Fantasy-fans would feel if he finally got that Starleague win.

Fantasy vs Stork is really a matchup heavily favoring stork the way hes been playing lately. (i love how no one has even mentioned modesty making the finals.)
☺
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 15 2011 00:40 GMT
#1590
Just finished watching all of the games; wow, they were highly entertaining indeed, Fantasy vs. Calm always delivers, hahahah.

I must say that Fantasy got INCREDIBLY lucky in the 4th and 5th game. Especially in the last game where he scouted Calm's spire going up, along with that extremely clutch scan that caught the queen flying over to his troops so that he could react in time. With all that luck on his side, he had enough time to do the correct reactions to whatever tricks Calm had up his sleeve. :D

I did feel sorry for Calm though, when it looked like he was sniffing in the back room after the last game. Having revenge denied sucks, but he still has the MSL to take! ;]
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#1591
Man this truly is the poor mans Flash vs Jaedong, the games were... not of a high standard. But funny.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 15 2011 01:30 GMT
#1592
I think Modesty could win the OSL Finals, but can anyone be surprised that a guy named "Modesty" doesn't have a bunch of rabid fanboys talking about how unstoppable he is in this OSL?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#1593
i don't really care who wins this as long as it's not modesty. both stork and fantasy deserve it. fantasy is arguably the #2 terran player with the long history of promised greatness, which weights upon him constantly to the point of people not acknowledging his substantial achievements and ability. stork too is still being underrated. he's pretty much the best modern protoss player.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 02:44:37
January 15 2011 02:44 GMT
#1594
Stork has to beat Modesty now. Fantasy vs Stork rematch will be so epic. I'm just worried because Stork has to practice for MSL as well.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
January 15 2011 04:11 GMT
#1595
Clam must have felt so stupid after throwing away game 5. Can't believe he threw away the game in that fashion.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
January 15 2011 09:05 GMT
#1596
On January 15 2011 03:57 Navane wrote:
Small Vod Thread (in BW general)

Cheers, thx!
Obstbaum
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland224 Posts
January 15 2011 10:49 GMT
#1597
just watched it.. bcs and queens... im in heaven right now
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 15 2011 10:54 GMT
#1598
On January 15 2011 08:53 cujo2k wrote:
Fantasy is prolly the one guy who deserves an individual league title the most right now. He has been an absolute force for over a year and his ELO peak holds the company of many other individual league winners.
Stork is arguably in the best shape of his BW career, so he might just deny it from Fantasy unless he gets burned out from being in two leagues, which very well might happen.


When fantasy has a TvZ that isn't hilarious to watch in a BAD way he will deserve a title.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 15 2011 10:58 GMT
#1599
On January 15 2011 11:44 tomatriedes wrote:
Stork has to beat Modesty now. Fantasy vs Stork rematch will be so epic. I'm just worried because Stork has to practice for MSL as well.

While a burnout is completely possible it's also worth noting that he only has to practive pvz.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 15 2011 11:06 GMT
#1600
I'm willing to bet my life on Stork eventually winning this OSL, should he beat Modesty in the other semi-final. Fantasy's TvP is really cute, but it simply doesn't stand a chance against Stork's abusive PvT. Against Stork's style you can only leave no room for mistakes, something that only Flash has the ability to so far. Not to mention Fantasy still has holes in his mind-game capability and late-game management in TvP.
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