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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Don't criticize Flash for being so fucking good and being able to properly take advantage of his opponents weaknesses and instead tell his opponents to get better. In this case, put all the blame on Bisu. Really. You can't blame Flash for the fact he's better than his opponents. Also, you would've orgasmed if Fantasy had played in that game vs Best. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Also no, I'd rather Best win, so if Fantasy did that, I would probably be disappointed. What exactly about Flash is supposed to make me like him? Is it the fact that he might cheese, turtle, or 14CC-> timing attack in any game? Or is it his ability to make a hyped game less than what I'd want it to be? Sorry, but honestly, there are legitimate reasons not to like Flash, and saying "Sorry he's too good" doesn't make him more likable. Most of the greatest players except for oov were more enjoyable to watch in their time. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I would much rather watch Sea or Fantasy if I'm watching a Terran but that's just personal preference. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 10 2011 19:09 Holgerius wrote: I do not demand that you like Flash because of it, I ask that you don't try to attribute it to anything other than good old biased fanboyism. You can dislike Flash as much as you want to and you can be vocal about it, I don't care, just don't spew out nonsense in an attempt to back it up. You're no beacon of objectivity either, as a Flash fanboy. There's legitimate reasons not to like your guy that aren't just 'fanboyism' that you don't want to admit. How do you think I grew to dislike him in the first place? Quite simply, he showed me a way of playing that I despise. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On January 10 2011 19:49 Lightwip wrote: You're no beacon of objectivity either, as a Flash fanboy. There's legitimate reasons not to like your guy that aren't just 'fanboyism' that you don't want to admit. How do you think I grew to dislike him in the first place? Quite simply, he showed me a way of playing that I despise. You still don't get it do you? There is no difference between the way Flash plays and the way other progamers play. He just does it better. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 10 2011 19:49 Lightwip wrote: You're no beacon of objectivity either, as a Flash fanboy. There's legitimate reasons not to like your guy that aren't just 'fanboyism' that you don't want to admit. How do you think I grew to dislike him in the first place? Quite simply, he showed me a way of playing that I despise. What way of playing? As has been said, Flash uses every possible style available, so what ''way of playing'' are you referring to? Playing good? It does come down to pure fanboyism (which doesn't always have a logical explanation). | ||
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
Flash turtles? Fuck he's a little turtling bitch. Flash timing attack? Why can't he win without doing something normal? Flash cheese? What a cunt. Flash plays normal? Holy shit he can't win without doing something interesting. Flash does something interesting? It has been done before, what a fucking copy cat. Flash lose? FUCK YEAH WHAT A FUCKING SHITTY PLAYER | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
To be honest, he does ruin a lot of games with either a turtling strategies or ones that just win through superior macro/timing attacks. You can dislike Flash as much as you like, but saying that he 'ruins' 'a lot of games' by winning through 'turtling' or 'superior macro' or 'timing attacks' is covering an awful lot of bases. Flash also has incredible M&M micro, do you hate it when he wins with superior micro, too? Is he ruining the game when he wins through M&M control vs Zerg? Just admit you just don't like the guy and move on. There's no need to make up bullshit about Flash 'ruining' games by doing (insert any strategy ever). | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
also, if you thought that last game was superbly ridiculous how flash managed to win even though being behind on bases, find the game where he used mech against jd on katrina. thats wat's ridiculous. | ||
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:36 Hinanawi wrote: I think the problem, Lightwip, would be this quote of yours: You can dislike Flash as much as you like, but saying that he 'ruins' 'a lot of games' by winning through 'turtling' or 'superior macro' or 'timing attacks' is covering an awful lot of bases. Flash also has incredible M&M micro, do you hate it when he wins with superior micro, too? Is he ruining the game when he wins through M&M control vs Zerg? Just admit you just don't like the guy and move on. There's no need to make up bullshit about Flash 'ruining' games by doing (insert any strategy ever). Seconded. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
He might be boring to watch for some because his games are mostly onesided, but thats it. | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
 Bisu will be the one who does good at the finish! | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On January 11 2011 00:32 nozaro33 wrote: haters will hate. It's human tendency to come up with any "logical" argument just to prove they're right. fanboy and haters alike. But man it just gets annoying that every time Flash dominates threads are spammed with a crapload of haters. i love that everytime flash dominates the threads explode over the 100 sites. shows me that there are still ppl interested in bw (i also think many ppl came back from sc2) | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
- You had a really close game with Fantasy. ▲ Though my hands weren’t completely warmed up, it's true that Fantasy hyung also played very well. During the middle of the game, my hands finally loosened up and I thought to myself I would be able to come back, and because it was a situation where there was no one else that could play for my team, I think I exerted even more effort And Flash with some lame excuses...ZZZZzzz!! Clearly, Fantasy played superbly.... | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:45 shucklesors wrote: its funny because the T1ers talk as though bisu is close to flash or something. also, if you thought that last game was superbly ridiculous how flash managed to win even though being behind on bases, find the game where he used mech against jd on katrina. thats wat's ridiculous. There was a whole article about meching vs zerg... i think it was fantasy's final edit... it talks specifically about this~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80595 by Day[9] so it's legit~ :D | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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