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maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2381
Really glad seeing the people backing Flash and Flash reciprocating. Lee Young Ho baby.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
kwkwookw
Profile Joined August 2010
218 Posts
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2382
seriously, the psychological impact skt is going to receive from this.....lol

although both fantasy and flash had 3 wins, fantasy had 3 wins against noobs while flash had 3 wins against decent-good players
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2383
On January 08 2011 17:09 NrG.GoD- wrote:
what bisu needed was recall instead of statis with 1st arbiter.

he did not need to fight there, but he only needed to delay terran push at any cost until his gateways at 9oclock finished

imagine there was recall, then terran would have

1. lose some depot
2. units must go back
3. was before vessel emp, so recall itself isn't easy to clean up
4. arbiter would nothave died since there was no turret
5. possible armory died
6. in this time protoss mine more and production buildings complete
7. makes room for bisu to attack 5oclock

but he decided to statis and try for an attack which turned out to be a waste of arbiter energy and units, and throw away a good card to buy time

The recall was denied by Flash's supreme Vessel control, hell, Bisu was afraid to leave his base with his arbs
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2384
Wow....6base to 3base, and he loses? Why, Bisu.....

Stork needs to channel his PvT into Bisu
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2385
Mmmmm there goes my liquibet...

Esports needs some new faces with potential to actually dominate...right now it's mostly established "good" players duking it out, and while it's still exciting, it's also starting to feel a bit same-old sometimes with a cycle of mini-slumps breaking apart areas of good play...etc..
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 08:13:20
January 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#2386
Though I don't like this terran style but tosses just should do smth about it, well its Flash, good job, never expected Bisu to ever win him, even I wanted toss to win, but Bisu just disappoints at crucial moments, so whatever the fanboys say, he still has to improve his PvT. For the whole game he couldn't do a thing of a damn good harass to damage Flash, he had a chance just before the turrents and vessels appeared, afterwards it was just a big rape
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2387
Fun games! Bisu had so many bases thought he could do it hehe.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 08:14:28
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2388
I don't understand how people are saying bad things about how Bisu played that game. His opening was beautiful. His late expo ran him up the tech tree while simultaneously denying Flash the benefits of his fast expand. Following that he harassed around with reavers which covered him as he setup a third. His play up to midgame was utterly sublime. Flash's defense was also quite good, hence the low amounts of damage from the harass, but it did its job, it secured Bisu's third.

I believe what cost him the game was he over-expanded. If Flash is staying on 3 bases for that long you can be assured he's going to have a push from hell coming. Bisu's response was to addon more expos when he needed more army.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2389
Where's the guy with Bisu as cpt and with Best in team and with Flash on Anti? )
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2390
Well, I suppose I must go to sleep while being mildly irritated.
Not that I didn't expect something like this, something annoying always happens in SKT vs KT.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2391
I've really grown to dislike flash.

I used to like him, and I still greatly respect his play...but all the fanboys on here make me sick.

GGs though!
facebook.com/DJONESisagod
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2392
On January 08 2011 17:09 NrG.GoD- wrote:
what bisu needed was recall instead of statis with 1st arbiter.

he did not need to fight there, but he only needed to delay terran push at any cost until his gateways at 9oclock finished

imagine there was recall, then terran would have

1. lose some depot
2. units must go back
3. was before vessel emp, so recall itself isn't easy to clean up
4. arbiter would nothave died since there was no turret
5. possible armory died
6. in this time protoss mine more and production buildings complete
7. makes room for bisu to attack 5oclock

but he decided to statis and try for an attack which turned out to be a waste of arbiter energy and units, and throw away a good card to buy time


If he researched recall first, he'd run into the risk of getting rolled over by Flash's push?

He didn't exactly know what Flash was doing because his ob kept on getting sniped by gollies. Stasis was definitely a safer bet.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2393
Bisu why over expand where's your army? and that recall was.. uh what? T_T

I STILL BELIEVE,NEXT TIME SKT1/KTY!!!

Props to KT+ Show Spoiler +
Flash
for good performance...
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
January 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#2394
On January 08 2011 17:12 DJONES wrote:
I've really grown to dislike flash.

I used to like him, and I still greatly respect his play...but all the fanboys on here make me sick.

GGs though!

There's 10 times more haters than ever, he's a great player. People respect that.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
January 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#2395
On January 08 2011 17:10 Holgerius wrote:
I'm a little sad that Stats actually won a game, an all-kill would've been so sweet.

If Stats didn't take out BeSt, Flash would have had to face a PvT specialist, then an excellent TvTer, and possibly two snipers. At least he neutralized SKT's best shot at taking Flash out.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
January 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#2396
On January 08 2011 17:11 kwkwookw wrote:
seriously, the psychological impact skt is going to receive from this.....lol

although both fantasy and flash had 3 wins, fantasy had 3 wins against noobs while flash had 3 wins against decent-good players



You consider Ssak a decent-good player??
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#2397
On January 08 2011 17:11 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 17:08 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 08 2011 17:07 luckybeni2 wrote:
lol bisu's lategame was so bad.

His midgame was lacking. Too much expanding not enough unit making.

He could have still easily won if he did not try to break his main containment with small forces again and again. He stopped his production at his new main for that which led to flash just running around killing bases.

No, once terran contains protoss like that, its pretty much over for protoss. Its really hard to break a contain like that. Bisu can't magically make a whole bunch of units.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
January 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#2398
only time i was afraid flash will lose was when i saw the DTs, it was like that game on Destination again, but flash did learn his lesson
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
January 08 2011 08:13 GMT
#2399
Damm KTFlash

Here's a PM I sent to Craton thanking him for the awesome coverage of, well, everything. Like now he's streaming MSL (Snow just went 2star)

Hey dude, I woke up at 5AM this morning, for the first time in my life, to watch SKT v KT, my second LR experience ever, and you made it fucking AWESOME!

Dude, I'd just like to say thanks a lot for streaming such high quality (o hai Konadora) and GOOD content. Though I could tend to find your taste in [s]music[s/] KPooP less than orgasmatastic, the fact that you always had fun VoD's to watch, of pressing, recent games, that you had silliness on the side and we absolutely GOSU at switching between different events, while never truly sidelining any of them (SKT KT > Fox Hite ANYDAY!).

Just thanks so much for the great service you have wrought us

~bITt.mAN


Swamp him with thanks guys, he deserves it!
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
kwkwookw
Profile Joined August 2010
218 Posts
January 08 2011 08:14 GMT
#2400
On January 08 2011 17:12 revy wrote:
I don't understand how people are saying bad things about how Bisu played that game. His opening was beautiful. His late expo ran him up the tech tree while simultaneously denying Flash the benefits of his fast expand. Following that he harassed around with reavers which covered him as he setup a third. His play up to midgame was utterly sublime.

I believe what cost him the game was he over-expanded. If Flash is staying on 3 bases for that long you can be assured he's going to have a push from hell coming. Bisu's response was to addon more expos when he needed more army.


yeah seriously give both players more credit geez
saying bisu played bad only belittles how well flash played
the fact is if flash pushed out just a moment later and didn't emp as well as he did, bisu would have won 99%
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