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Radiomouse
Profile Joined November 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
December 21 2010 15:11 GMT
#881
On December 22 2010 00:07 Holgerius wrote:
Let me put it like this; I can easily think of several occasions where Fantasy has been BM'd because he has horrible gg timing (CC's by Xellos, Ultra consume by Soulkey, Scout recall by Free).


When was that soulkey vs fanta game in which he consumed an ultra? The korean commentators must've gone wild. ;D
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 21 2010 15:11 GMT
#882
I am pretty sure that Fantasy is imitating Flash (oh forget it, its TwoTonTerran and Holgerius here)
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 21 2010 15:12 GMT
#883
On December 21 2010 22:31 Ikonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 22:15 Ricjames wrote:
Oh why SKT had to lose this. I haven't seen the games yet but Canata probably sucked all the way when he got beaten by Juni


Pretty much

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 22:15 Ricjames wrote:
and Fantasy probably pulled another bullshit card out his sleeve.


Build order loss followed by some impressive micro by TurN. Not much Fantasy could do


Fantasy went for a greedy build despite technically being the superior player. He gambled for early game advantage rather than going for solid mid-game play. Plus, when he saw the marines, he did not try to turtle up and accept a slight but noticeable BO disadvantage. Which one knows that in TvTs, aren't always fatal given the nature of the matchup. Instead he tried to compete in marine micro and failed horribly.

The stupidest thing is that Fantasy did the above two things despite knowing that his marine control sucks ass. While his mid-late game TvT is much better. Hence his BO loss is mostly on him and not luck.

Meh
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
December 21 2010 15:16 GMT
#884
Best has worse gg timing than Fantasy. In fact, he's probably the worst I can think of.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 15:23:06
December 21 2010 15:16 GMT
#885
On December 22 2010 00:11 Radiomouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 00:07 Holgerius wrote:
Let me put it like this; I can easily think of several occasions where Fantasy has been BM'd because he has horrible gg timing (CC's by Xellos, Ultra consume by Soulkey, Scout recall by Free).


When was that soulkey vs fanta game in which he consumed an ultra? The korean commentators must've gone wild. ;D

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/47692_Fantasy_vs_Neo.G_Soulkey/vod

------------------

And why are you kids bringing up Flash/KT or whatever? Quickly, mention three examples of Flash getting BM'd with an in-game ceremony due to gg timing!

Listen to Free's interview after playing Fantasy:

''At first, I had no intention of doing anything like that but he went too far not typing in "GG".''

This has nothing to do with me being a fan of another player/team, Fantasy is objectively speaking one of the absolutely worst when it comes to this.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 21 2010 15:37 GMT
#886
On December 22 2010 00:16 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 00:11 Radiomouse wrote:
On December 22 2010 00:07 Holgerius wrote:
Let me put it like this; I can easily think of several occasions where Fantasy has been BM'd because he has horrible gg timing (CC's by Xellos, Ultra consume by Soulkey, Scout recall by Free).


When was that soulkey vs fanta game in which he consumed an ultra? The korean commentators must've gone wild. ;D

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/47692_Fantasy_vs_Neo.G_Soulkey/vod

------------------

And why are you kids bringing up Flash/KT or whatever? Quickly, mention three examples of Flash getting BM'd with an in-game ceremony due to gg timing!

Listen to Free's interview after playing Fantasy:

''At first, I had no intention of doing anything like that but he went too far not typing in "GG".''

This has nothing to do with me being a fan of another player/team, Fantasy is objectively speaking one of the absolutely worst when it comes to this.

To be fair, Free uses scouts to BM in most of his games. But yes, Fantasy does have bad gg timing. Although perhaps it's because he often thinks he can still pull off a come back despite being badly behind.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 21 2010 15:54 GMT
#887
On December 22 2010 00:04 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 23:59 Holgerius wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:16 kamikami wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:05 Holgerius wrote:
On December 21 2010 22:59 alffla wrote:
i love when fantasy loses lololol it seems like he gets so frustrated every time. ok kinda mean but surely everyone can agree with me that fantasy has one of the worst GG timings out of all progamers.

Yes he has, together with some CJ players.


You are the best KT fan ever Holgerius.
So true so true.

How is this about me being a KT fan?
He was trying to be sarcastic but the statement just fails to carry any sarcasm. Poor guy. xD


It's you who failed to understand my statement, I was not sarcastic towards KT. Holgerius said "together with some CJ players" and that pleased me, so I made that statement. Your reply to my post is of no importance at all since my post is about the "together with some CJ players" part, not the Fantasy part.
Khassar de Templari
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 21 2010 16:07 GMT
#888
Jesus SKT on slump all of a sudden. Fantasy losing to Turn! We didn't even get to see an epic Bisu Vs Stork game. This clanwar has failed me!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 16:36:51
December 21 2010 16:32 GMT
#889
Tyson and Jaehoon went to watch Bisu's game:

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영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 21 2010 16:39 GMT
#890
I never thought I would have to say this but "SKTBisu"
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 21 2010 16:40 GMT
#891
MBC still loves their former golden boy
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 21 2010 17:31 GMT
#892
On December 22 2010 00:54 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 00:04 mnesthes wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:59 Holgerius wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:16 kamikami wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:05 Holgerius wrote:
On December 21 2010 22:59 alffla wrote:
i love when fantasy loses lololol it seems like he gets so frustrated every time. ok kinda mean but surely everyone can agree with me that fantasy has one of the worst GG timings out of all progamers.

Yes he has, together with some CJ players.


You are the best KT fan ever Holgerius.
So true so true.

How is this about me being a KT fan?
He was trying to be sarcastic but the statement just fails to carry any sarcasm. Poor guy. xD


It's you who failed to understand my statement, I was not sarcastic towards KT. Holgerius said "together with some CJ players" and that pleased me, so I made that statement. Your reply to my post is of no importance at all since my post is about the "together with some CJ players" part, not the Fantasy part.

I see.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 21 2010 18:25 GMT
#893
It's not too relevant, but Flash, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu are top 4 once again.
☺
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 18:47:39
December 21 2010 18:41 GMT
#894
To be honest, I'm not sure whether Bisu or Stork belongs at #3. I suppose time will tell, but they are really close and a fair(but not insurmountable) distance from all the others.
Fantasy fell down to #7 under TBLS(redverse order) Shine and Light.
Also, I wouldn't mention Flash gg timing because in most games he's gonna lose, I think, "is he gonna turtle his way back into this?" And about 20% of the time the answer is yes. And in all honesty, he often ggs when he has nothing left to do rather than when he's about to get destroyed. He gg'd vs ssak while he had a tank line because he had no means of reinforcing his 3rd and he was starved out, while Ssak could pretty much do anything. If he had waited another 5-10 minutes for Ssak to break his tank line, that would be both BM-worthy and bad gg timing.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 19:27:21
December 21 2010 19:26 GMT
#895
TurN is the terran Kwanro it seems :D

great micro by him in the beginning \m/_
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 21 2010 20:22 GMT
#896
On December 22 2010 00:11 Xiphos wrote:
I am pretty sure that Fantasy is imitating Flash (oh forget it, its TwoTonTerran and Holgerius here)


Yeah, Flash's TvT GG timing is so slow; that's why he's the fastest televised TvT loser of all time. Er what?
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
December 21 2010 21:37 GMT
#897
YES!! Stork and TurN winning=Khan victory! YESSS
iNversion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States107 Posts
December 21 2010 22:07 GMT
#898
Fantasy has been slumping pretty hard, and it's been bad decision-making costing him a lot of his games =( at this rate I think he'll fall to Hydra in the OSL today
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 22 2010 00:00 GMT
#899
Wow,
SKT is going through a rough time now...

4th consecutive loss?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 01:56:05
December 22 2010 01:53 GMT
#900
On December 22 2010 01:39 nayumi wrote:
I never thought I would have to say this but "SKTBisu"


Best isn't an auto-loss. Neither is Ssak.

But man this pisses me off. Where's Kwanro and Paralyze?

Why is Fantasy playing like every SKT-hater's wet dream?

This should be the SKT match-up from now on:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Bisu
2. Best
3. Bisu's hair
4. Best's abs
7. 1, 3, and 4 will win no matter what, so SKT can just Hyuk the next three and have Bisu play the ace match if it comes to that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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