EPTand all these people wanting flash out of OSL, geez.
damn you guys are petty lol
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Milkis
5003 Posts
and all these people wanting flash out of OSL, geez. damn you guys are petty lol | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
That's a pretty good reaction. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
 Mind instead of Shine. I'd rather watch paint dry than any of Mind's games. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote: You know you're an arrogant bitter hater (Bisu/Stork lover) when you root for fucking Mind instead of Shine. I'd rather watch paint dry than any of Mind's games.Love how you complain about haters and then proceed to whip out some silly hate yourself. Nice.  | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote: You know you're an arrogant bitter hater (Bisu/Stork lover) when you root for fucking Mind instead of Shine. I'd rather watch paint dry than any of Mind's games.The name calling is completely uncalled for. The only way for Sea to have a chance to advance was for Mind to beat Shine so of course people were rooting for Mind. Edit: I am now a siege tank, my favorite unit.^^ | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote: You know you're an arrogant bitter hater (Bisu/Stork lover) when you root for fucking Mind instead of Shine. I'd rather watch paint dry than any of Mind's games.Normally I don't hate Shine, even though he eliminated Bisu/Stork. But I can't watch as someone who really doesn't have too much skill get a higher winstreak than the best players of our time. You can say that you can't argue with results, but in this case you really can. I can't really say that his games are a show of skill, only that he keeps being successful with hyper-aggressive play which, after it is noted by the opponent, is relatively easy to counter. | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
On December 18 2010 02:16 Scarecrow wrote: Yeah, Shine really threw away a 14 game winning streak to help out his 0-1 teammate -.- a true friend? i would like my teammate to do the same for me :-) + Show Spoiler + same like jaedong i suppose, and his game with hiya | ||
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:42 Lightwip wrote: Normally I don't hate Shine, even though he eliminated Bisu/Stork. But I can't watch as someone who really doesn't have too much skill get a higher winstreak than the best players of our time. You can say that you can't argue with results, but in this case you really can. I can't really say that his games are a show of skill, only that he keeps being successful with hyper-aggressive play which, after it is noted by the opponent, is relatively easy to counter. So you admit Bisu's run in Proleague is a fluke | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:26 Milkis wrote: So you admit Bisu's run in Proleague is a fluke Bisu has 3 titles and a long history of dominance to back up that he's actually good. This is the only thing Shine has accomplished other than knocking out Bisu/Stork then losing like a total noob. Fluke or not, you can't deny that Bisu is actually good. Shine, not so much. | ||
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Craton
United States17232 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Bisu let his sairs idle for literally 2 seconds too long then flopped a won game vs a last-ditch muta switch then got basically out BO'd in the all-in war game 2. but I was rooting for Shine in this. He really did throw the game away with that one attack. I was thinking "man Shine's in great shape" before that with Lurkers out early and easily positioned defensively and Hive tech nearing finished... and then he throw away like 40-50 food for 10 marines. =/. But anyway, Shine's streak was remarkable only by virtue of it being a streak. Almost every game he won was versus a bad opponent. He beat BByong, Ruby, Sunyx2 (all weak), Bisu x2 (covered in spoiler), Snow (who has been in a mild slump and has below average pvz, but is at least a decent opponent), Soo, who sucks zvz (33%), a slumping Action, Cloud, Sea (I forget this game), Princess, and Sea via all-in. All-in-all you've got basically 3 good opponents. Of those, he lucked out against Bisu, he all-in'd Sea once of two (Sea is 4-8 of his last 12 TvZ, 4-5 this season), and he beat Snow (6 game PvZ losing streak, 3-7 this season). The whole Bisu thing is why everyone is awaiting that Shine-Bisu rematch, btb. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:53 Lightwip wrote: Bisu has 3 titles and a long history of dominance to back up that he's actually good. This is the only thing Shine has accomplished other than knocking out Bisu/Stork then losing like a total noob. Fluke or not, you can't deny that Bisu is actually good. Shine, not so much. Lol, total noob. I love how after knocking bisu and stork out people just choose to forget what shine did after. Beat Effort twice Beat Fantasy, Iris, and Violet Beat Stork twice and took a game off Movie (who was a beast pvz player at the time) Beat Kal Beat Bisu, again Beat Hyuk Beat Effort, again Beat go.go twitce Beat Hydra, Calm, Soulkey, Much, Canata, and Chavi in succession (6 game winstreak) Beat Kal again Beat Leta Beat Kal, Stats, and Leta in succession Went on an 11 game winstreak that involved beating Bisu twice. How does that make him a noob? | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
On December 18 2010 05:53 O-ops wrote: Lol, total noob. I love how after knocking bisu and stork out people just choose to forget what shine did after. Beat Effort twice Beat Fantasy, Iris, and Violet Beat Stork twice and took a game off Movie (who was a beast pvz player at the time) Beat Kal Beat Bisu, again Beat Hyuk Beat Effort, again Beat go.go twitce Beat Hydra, Calm, Soulkey, Much, Canata, and Chavi in succession (6 game winstreak) Beat Kal again Beat Leta Beat Kal, Stats, and Leta in succession Went on an 11 game winstreak that involved beating Bisu twice. How does that make him a noob? It's all about HOW he did it. Aside from ZvZ, nearly all of his wins are from all-ins of one form or another. | ||
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
That's all. Shine's haters just outnumber Shine's lovers. That means he deserves to be hated because he did something that made the majority of the community hate him. Majority > Minority : The hate on Shine is justified. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
Did someone steal all your meat or something? | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
Throwing away games is simply unsportsmanlike btw and not only that - it's stupid and could lead to elimination of yourself. | ||
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Jackle
Canada859 Posts
Flash > Hyuk (6:1, head-to-head) and Kal > Paralyze (Kal has solid PvP and Paralyze is looking like he fluked his way into ro16), putting Hyuk/Flash/Kal into a 2-1 tie. | ||
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Ideas
United States8055 Posts
looking like there could very well be 3-way tie-breakers for groups A and B. | ||
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Apex
United States7226 Posts
On December 18 2010 08:18 Hazard wrote: That's right - nobody cares about Mind but some care about underdogs and some are anti-Shine fans which is okey (we have anti-fans for every good player here). Seeing how Shine/Bisu fans brought up this rematch, makes it look bigger than it should be Throwing away games is simply unsportsmanlike btw and not only that - it's stupid and could lead to elimination of yourself. But...but....I do D: I guess I'm the minority in this. I just want to see Mind return to that form he had when he went on his MSL run knocking off Savior/Bisu. :[ | ||
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On December 18 2010 07:16 seRapH wrote: It's all about HOW he did it. Aside from ZvZ, nearly all of his wins are from all-ins of one form or another. Wow shine hate is soooo stupid. I'm not even his fan. Here's some non ZvZ against known players Shine vs. Fantasy, Fantasy does his make one of each unit build and builds no units. Shine goes 2 hatch muta and punishes Fantasy. There was nothing Shine did that was "all-in," in fact everything was scouted by Fanta with his wraith. Do you think Shine should just drone up and just roll over and die? His actions were perfect counter to Fantasy's stupid build. Shine vs. Kal Shine raped Kal in late game, nuff said. Shine played great defense and stalled until he had hive and 4 bases running. Cracklings and backstabs shutdown Kal's third easily. shine vs. Leta Leta goes 2 port wrath. Shine overwhelms him with mutas. Shine vs. Bisu (last two games) 1st game: Both play standard. Bisu looks to win, then Shine ingeniously makes mutas out of nowhere, more importantly, they take out all the corsairs. Bisu fails to adapt to Shine's style and loses to one group of mutas for being stubborn and not making archons or more cannons 2nd game: Bisu also went all in with his goon attack timing. Granted i don't remember every game perfectly, but the point being Shine doesn't always "all-in" and "cheese" way through his opponents. And playing that aggressive takes skills. Blame you favorite players for not adjusting to his style, whereas Shine punishes opponent's style of play. | ||
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