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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 11 2010 08:28 GMT
#421
Time to Time? He basically got the Flash Ace Disease thing from last season.
☺
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 08:36:50
December 11 2010 08:36 GMT
#422
It's been three Ace loses if I'm not mistaken, and he also won at least once. I would say Flash was far more "impressive" in this regard last season

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. If you lose 50% of your games 1-4 or 2-4, Jaedong could win all the ace-matches in the world and it wouldn't be enough.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 11 2010 08:58 GMT
#423
jaedong OZ
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 13:56:58
December 11 2010 13:38 GMT
#424
On December 11 2010 17:23 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 15:20 Womwomwom wrote:
On December 11 2010 15:13 _Quasar_ wrote:
can't wait KT vs Oz, battle for the last place lol


Not really a battle, Jaedong might be performing a little bit worse than Flash but he has teammates that, while generally bad, aren't as awful as KT's current line up.

Speaking of which KT vs Ace is next according to OGN so that should be a hilarious watch.


Did I read that right? I mean, KTs line-up is the same team which dominated the last season in every aspect, plus action (which as of now of course has not performed too well). Oz line-up was even one of the worst teams last season, just with the addition of a progamer who hasn't practiced well in over two years and a reasonable rookie zerg.

The quality of KTs line-up exceeds Oz by so much, they just don't have their shit together right now.
Oz just loses badly every second game. And now that JD loses some ace-matches from time to tijme, it's awful.


Yes you did read that right, if Oz and KT played right now it could possibly end up 4-0 in Oz's favor. Last season's results doesn't mean anything if your team is failing to perform this season, especially since people's performances have changed so much (big example is Fantasy and his insanely good bio TvZ right now).

Oz has a lot of fairly adequate protoss (Anytime, Perfectman I guess) and zergs (Princess, Killer, Jaedong), and guess what KT players play extremely badly against. I have without a doubt the only two players that wouldn't get worked by the listed players would be Flash and maaaaybe Stats.
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 15:42:32
December 11 2010 15:36 GMT
#425
New BO7 format requires teams to have at least 3 stable players to do good in PL, not 2 like BO5. If Anytime can get into good shape they can have 3 stable playes and win more often.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
December 11 2010 15:57 GMT
#426
But Oz's problem is that they haven't got any other variant for ace except JD.
From KT it might be Stats. Or even Violet. But from Oz... who the hell they would send if JD for some reason was bad to play in this particular case (for example if he had an "ace match slump" like Flash did)???

Princess? Perfectman? rofl.....

The only option would be Hiya, but he is too bad, except for his occasional good play in TvZ.
But hey, btw, this may be an idea! If Oz know that the opponent likely sends a medium Zerg (95% of which are bad at ZvT), they may really send Hiya for ace, so that the opponent will not be able to count only on luck! ^_^
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 16:10:46
December 11 2010 16:10 GMT
#427
I see Oz failing another young-and-upcoming Zerg in Princess... Killer development failed miserably last year and now they're going for double failure with Princess. I'd rather have them field the older players like MBC for a while so that they can get their groove on, and then try one or two rookies at a time.

Sadly, counting Killer as an "older player" now, Oz's top 6 are:
Jaedong
Hiya
Anytime
Perfectman
Killer
BackHo

Sorry Lomo, but I'd rather field BackHo than you. Although the BC's were epic lulz.

So yeah... guess Oz should try the MBC's R1 strategy of fielding those 6 players over and over until they start winning.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 11 2010 16:15 GMT
#428
i'd say its too soon to see a future fail in princess, i see more future in him then in killer.

I think oz is recovering well in this round, despite this horrible loss against fox
BW is back
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 16:29:52
December 11 2010 16:25 GMT
#429
Princess is more reliable I think. The all-in rush he went this game is not so characteristic of him. Maybe he wanted to be unpredictable. And after all his opponent was Shine, who is now a ZvZ monster.

I dunno why he suicided tons of lings into a sunken (maybe he'd better eat some important building like spire or pool with them...), but this is a out-workable mistake.

I dunno. "Princess" looks overall more confident. That's just a sense based on how he looks during games - concentrated, attentive, mobilized and unyielding.

I'm sure some Killer would give up on the match with Horang2 given the situation he was put into in the early-mid game, but Princess didn't.
____

But Hiya seriously if you NOW don't win in the next Oz match I will go to Korea and fucking kill you!
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 11 2010 17:13 GMT
#430
LR thread sounded interesting. Must watch game with cattlebruisers. Also lol Shine.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
December 11 2010 17:29 GMT
#431
jaedong oz strikes again!

had finals so couldn't watch it live, but i think anytime will be better than backho/lomo are at least.

i also feel princess will be an important part of the team. he's working on his own death stare right now. just wait til it's perfected.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 17:58:43
December 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#432
Anytime played normally, but in the end anyone was like WTF about the number of hydras which went onto Anytime's base o.o

maybe he needed to go reaver? I really dunno why he got storm instead... =( His play really was promising.

Jaedong looks tired nowadays. He clearly cannot do his best ;(( I'm wondering what happened to him? o.o That must be some "hardware" problem i guess. Hope he recovers soon.

Maybe they ask him this question in the interview if Oz (hopefully) wins the next match
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
December 11 2010 18:42 GMT
#433
Wake up in the morning to see some Jaedong OZ. One day at a time.
*Insert Inspirational Day[9] Daily #100 Quote* | Fantasy | qxc, Brat_OK
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
December 11 2010 18:53 GMT
#434
OP spoils that there is a fifth game =( (and, by doing this, spoils that it finished in the fifth game).
Born to fast expand
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 11 2010 20:14 GMT
#435
lolol.. GOGO ANYTIME!
He's back on Lecaf. Awww .. wait what?
The dynamic duo didn't both win?
WHAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS GAME?!?!?!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 11 2010 20:20 GMT
#436
On December 12 2010 05:14 SuperJongMan wrote:
lolol.. GOGO ANYTIME!
He's back on Lecaf. Awww .. wait what?
The dynamic duo didn't both win?
WHAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS GAME?!?!?!

Shine proxied.
Translator:3
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
December 12 2010 01:26 GMT
#437
On December 12 2010 05:20 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 05:14 SuperJongMan wrote:
lolol.. GOGO ANYTIME!
He's back on Lecaf. Awww .. wait what?
The dynamic duo didn't both win?
WHAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS GAME?!?!?!

Shine proxied.


GG no re .___.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
December 12 2010 02:13 GMT
#438
Shine's current win streak (13 wins) is higher than Flash and Bisu's best win streaks (12 for both) and tied with Jaedong's best streak.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
December 12 2010 03:03 GMT
#439
Flash should come to Oz since he said he'd like to be on the same team THEN maybe Oz can lose 4-2 all the time

In all seriousness tho, its sad to see them get rolled after having such a good start to the round... JD's ace slump turns into a team slump I guess D:
Jaedong and Baby
gorgoino18
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)109 Posts
December 12 2010 05:05 GMT
#440
Who is the girl in the Hype Pictures?
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