EPT[SPL] Hwaseung OZ vs Woongjin Stars - Page 26
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
 And there were enough 0-3 -> 4-3 comebacks, we need no more, sorry %) | ||
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Ryo
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And no, he's not going to quit or go to army. He is captain so obviously he has a part to play in the team but just not as a regular starter. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 01 2010 15:57 lordmordor wrote: That said, i always love seeing Lurker breaks. Not only are they awesome by themselves, but its a welcome change from the standard muta harrass. JD level muta micro is great to watch, but i like some variety, glad it was the dong who delivered Me too. I think muta is pretty much overplayed now. Often it does little to no damage. And lurker play is more straight up aggressive and also gives more opportunity to safely expand. | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
On December 01 2010 19:48 _Quasar_ wrote: Me too. I think muta is pretty much overplayed now. Often it does little to no damage. And lurker play is more straight up aggressive and also gives more opportunity to safely expand. Unless you're playing FlaSh... Have you seen his MM vs LurkerLing micro?!? Z: Lurkers unburrow, rush forward. T: Stim, attack for 1.5 seconds Z: Burrow, pick a direction for lings to amove from T: Run back just 1 hex away from splines Z: FML | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
BTW Yesterday, even Juni could play very aggressively with that style. And Flash didn't seem to make more than 1 somewhat serious mis-micro (and even this, could be qualified as Juni good micro more than Flash's bad one). And Juni is not Jaedong or even ZerO or Soulkey. And FlaSh's micro is very good not only vs lurker but also vs muta. ))) | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
That's the problem. Lurkers are more a game decision/timing thing rather than a micro thing. Mutas have better ROI at the highest levels of play. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
no idea why, isn't really a much better T? | ||
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IceyBreeze415
United States13 Posts
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radialis
726 Posts
On December 01 2010 18:41 Ryo wrote: I feel bad for Piano. He was put in a difficult position by a coach who should have known better. And no, he's not going to quit or go to army. He is captain so obviously he has a part to play in the team but just not as a regular starter. this is something i've wondered for ages: why aren't captains always the best players? piano is godawful, i'd put him in the bottom 5 terrans right now (maybe reality and suny are the only worse ones i can think of atm). same with canata for SKT (although he was replaced by hyuk?) also, why would people even consider sending really for ace? really is pretty terrible as well. even though vT is JD's worst matchup, i would much rather send a good zerg. Even though it's jvz, zvz is an extremely volatile matchup. | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
WTF is with these coaches | ||
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
KT's captain is Violet and not Flash for a reason. For Hite Entus it's Leta, which some people question since as one of the team's better players he should probably focus on playing more. His personality probably makes him a good candidate though (and may also have been chosen to help the team merger go smoother). In any case, it's good to see Oz winning. Was hoping they could get it before Ace match to show some strength, but I guess I'll just take the double fantasy league points from JD winning twice. XD | ||
Renkaoru
390 Posts
On the other hand, this is what Woongjin gets for doing crazy shit like that. Think of it this way, Jaedong is used to brushing sides with the best Starcraft player (Flash) and can give him a run for his money. So you send a scrub Terran to face him in ace. Good? No. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 01 2010 22:18 Emperor_Earth wrote: @ Quasar That's the problem. Lurkers are more a game decision/timing thing rather than a micro thing. Mutas have better ROI at the highest levels of play. But mutas get useless at certain stages of the game. Lurkers don't. When Z gets swarm, lurkers becme even stronger. And they can potentially do insane dps. And there "micro" is probably wrong word. It's more like "army positioning". With proper positioning lurkers can be too hard to pick out even with good micro. Maybe 4 hatch 2 base lurkerling play (as Juni did yesterday) for standard? Gogogo Jaedong, I believe you can develop this into something tasty  | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Really is strange T to have TvZ weakest matchup and TvP best. =\ But something tells me that he'd be less fail. Anyways i'm happy to see finally 2 wins in a row for Oz. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
This is the same kind of WTF that i had when we saw Modesty vs Jaedong (i was like WTF??? Why not simply send the overall best player who is obviously Kal?) | ||
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
Anyhow, killer is always oscillating between decent play and terrible play. | ||
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RandomAbuse
187 Posts
On December 01 2010 22:54 radialis wrote: this is something i've wondered for ages: why aren't captains always the best players? piano is godawful, i'd put him in the bottom 5 terrans right now (maybe reality and suny are the only worse ones i can think of atm). same with canata for SKT (although he was replaced by hyuk?) also, why would people even consider sending really for ace? really is pretty terrible as well. even though vT is JD's worst matchup, i would much rather send a good zerg. Even though it's jvz, zvz is an extremely volatile matchup. Hyuk is good it just so happens he seem to always hyuk himself  | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 01 2010 22:54 radialis wrote: this is something i've wondered for ages: why aren't captains always the best players? piano is godawful, i'd put him in the bottom 5 terrans right now (maybe reality and suny are the only worse ones i can think of atm). same with canata for SKT (although he was replaced by hyuk?) also, why would people even consider sending really for ace? really is pretty terrible as well. even though vT is JD's worst matchup, i would much rather send a good zerg. Even though it's jvz, zvz is an extremely volatile matchup. There are far worse Terrans in the proleague, Piano has at least won a couple games this season. Captain's job, pretty much what Vortok said. You also have to be somewhat popular among the players and of a certain level of seniority/experience. Introverted/quiet personalities wouldn't make good captains. One of the SKT zergs explained in a recent interview that Hyuk spent a lot of time helping him with his muta control. Things like that. It's a rather time consuming job. Time that could otherwise be spent practicing yourself. | ||
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