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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs WeMade FOX

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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 13:20:55
November 29 2010 06:59 GMT
#1
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Banner from mustaju, the new go-to guy for banners.
And yes mustaju, we do like it.


Monday, November 29, 2010 19:30, Channel Ongame Network


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[image loading]SK Telecom T1 vs [image loading]WeMade FOX[image loading]



Predictions:
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This is a matchup between #1 and #3, but it doesn’t quite feel like a match between the cream of the crop does it?
on one hand, we have SKT. You know them, you love them, and their undefeated on the season. The positives are obvious. FBB are looking as good as they ever have. (T)Fantasy started out on a bit of a slump, but he has pulled out of that unpleasantness with beautifully. Best and (P)Bisu would both look absolutely dominant if it wasn’t for their respective individual league woes. Park remains as the best coach employed, and he is complemented by (T)Oov and (P)Doctor.K to make for one of the best coaching rosters in history. The most impressive thing about SKT (in my eyes anyway) is their unprecedented depth. SKT can legitimately start 11 different players, three terrans, four protosses, and four zergs. Sure, there are certain lineups that make more sence than others, but will anyone be surprised if we see a (T)Ssak, or an (Z)s2? In an effort to feign impartialness, I have to talk about the weaknesses. Park likes to start inexperienced players. This strategy works great in the long term (see (Z)n.Die_soO) but it does lead to a few losses that could have been avoided. The second weakness would be that SKT is not the most consistent team in the league. Sure a perfect round, with an undefeated player looks consistent, but consistent players don’t look like they are the best player in the world and then drop a series to (Z)Shine. (T)Fantasy has never been known as consistent, and (P)BeSt’s performance is based on what race he is playing against more than almost anyone else (hmmm, maybe (T)sKyHigh is a little more skewed.) SKT could drop a game if Park only starts a few veteran players, and those veterans don’t perform well.
Before I talk about FOX, I am obligated to point out that SKT has an afro. Not just an afro, but an undefeated afro who plays with a unique style that is fun to watch. If (P)Paralyze can continue like he is, he will very quickly become my favorite player. If you did not see his series vs (T)Leta, do yourself a favor and go watch it.
And on the other side, we have FOX. FOX is, for now, at the top of the .500 sea of mediocrity after dismantling Hite. FOX has a mixed bag of talents. There are the perfectly consistent and boring play styles of (T)Mind and (P)Pure, the “strategic” play of (Z)Shine, The aggressive and sometimes reckless play of (T)Ty, the veteran play of (T)Midas, and there is (Z)RorO (who I can’t seem to describe his play other than to say that he saw an anti-team kill his father when he was young, and vowed vengeance on every anti-team that ever existed.) FOX’s success is matchup based, which makes them scary. Despite the fact that FOX doesn’t stand a chance if we line up #1vs#1, #2vs#2 ect, They have a very good shot if they can line up multiple snipes.
Too much text, time for predictions.

Set 1: (P)By.Sun<Fortress> (T)Mind
No more central planes means that (P)By.Sun needs to find a new home. (T)Mind seems suited for a simple, old map. Sun has practiced too much PvP and it put down without too much of a fight
Set 2: (T)Fantasy<Benzene>(T)ty
Benzene is probably the most complicated map out there, so it seems like a good place for two guys who like to try out (P)New strategies. It will be like every other TvT, except replace tank lines and starring contests with Valkyries vs wraith and vulture drops everywhere. Game of the night, and (T)Fantasy’s harass pulls it out
Set 3: (Z)n.Die_soO<Grand Line SE>(Z)RorO
This is (Z)n.Die_soO’s map, and he is desirably good. (Z)n.Die_soO picks up an uninteresting win.
Set 4: (P)BeSt<Empire of the Sun> (T)Midas
No one likes this map. The fans find it not terribly interesting, and progamers don’t like that it seems to have a lot of upsets on it. I like (P)BeSt for this map, with lots of resources and few chokes. (T)Midas gets the start because no one else wants to be here. (P)BeSt gets my vote vs any terran. Mayby not (T)Flash in a Bo5, but certainly over (T)Midas
Set 5: (Z)Kwanro<Aztec>(P)Pure
(Z)Kwanro didn’t leave his old team to ride the bench. I haven’t seen to many games on Aztec, but short rush distance + mediocre protoss = Kwanroll
Set 6: (P)Bisu<Icarus>(Z)Shine
Unneeded, but FOX got the snipe they were looking for.
Set 7: (P)Paralyze<Circuit Breaker>(T)Ty
What I want to see for an acematch.


SKT4>Fox1

lot more TLPD errors than I thought. I now am an anti (T)ON fan


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Unplayed sets will be given a fake matchup to avoid spoiling results
Set 1: (P)BeSt<Fortress> (P)Pure
Set 2: (P)Bisu<Benzene> (Z)RorO
Set 3: (P)Paralyze<Grand Line SE> (T)Midas
Set 4: (P)By.Sun<Empire of the Sun> (T)Mind
Set 5: (T)Fantasy<Aztec>(T)Ty
Set 6: (Z)n.Die_soO<Icarus>(Z)Shine
Set 7: (T)Fantasy<Circuit Breaker>(T)Ty


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(P)BeSt<Fortress> (P)Pure
(P)Bisu<Benzene> (Z)RorO
(P)Paralyze<Grand Line SE> (T)Midas
(P)By.Sun<Empire of the Sun> (T)Mind
(T)Fantasy<Aztec>(T)Ty
(Z)n.Die_soO<Icarus>(Z)Shine
(T)Fantasy<Circuit Breaker>(T)Ty


SKT 4 > 3 Fox

I have Fantasy and midas on my FPL



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Severe BO loss/ early timing push. Short

Poll: Do you recomend game 1?

no (14)
 
67%

yes (7)
 
33%

somewhere between yes and no (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 1?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no



+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
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Timing push does too much damage and seals the game; some decent action after that though. The game just doesn't do it for me. Could be because I'm tired

Poll: Do you recomend game 2?

yes, but only because bisu was playing (24)
 
47%

yes (20)
 
39%

no (6)
 
12%

somewhere between yes and no (1)
 
2%

51 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 2?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no
(Vote): yes, but only because bisu was playing



+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
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Back and forth game. It was standard, but it did have some nice battles.

Poll: Do you recomend game 3?

yes (21)
 
60%

yes, but only because paralyze was playing (10)
 
29%

no (2)
 
6%

somewhere between yes and no (2)
 
6%

35 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 3?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no
(Vote): yes, but only because paralyze was playing



+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
no personal recomentation, wasn't watching close enough
Poll: Do you recomend game 4?

yes (16)
 
62%

yes, but only because of the hot blonde (8)
 
31%

no (2)
 
8%

somewhere between yes and no (0)
 
0%

26 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 4?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no
(Vote): yes, but only because of the hot blonde



+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
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I got hungy, and when I returned it was over. I have no idea
Poll: Do you recomend game 5?

yes (34)
 
92%

no (2)
 
5%

somewhere between yes and no (1)
 
3%

37 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 5?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no



+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
+ Show Spoiler +
average
Poll: Do you recomend game 6?

no (12)
 
86%

yes (2)
 
14%

somewhere between yes and no (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 6?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no



+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
+ Show Spoiler +
It was good. Not going to set the world on fire, but worth a watching
Poll: Do you recomend game 7?

yes (20)
 
69%

no (5)
 
17%

somewhere between yes and no (4)
 
14%

29 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend game 7?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): somewhere between yes and no






How to Watch
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/xsebt <= hooray!!!.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
November 29 2010 07:01 GMT
#2
Hopefully this time bisu will learn from his OSL defeats and get a rematch with shine. SKT revenge stomp incoming
Writer
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 07:05:04
November 29 2010 07:04 GMT
#3
I'll see what I can do.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44137 Posts
November 29 2010 07:08 GMT
#4
LET'S DO THIS!

KEEP THE RECORD GOING!

+ Show Spoiler +
4-1 SKT, Bisu wins obviously.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
November 29 2010 07:21 GMT
#5
WEMAKE MIRACLES, WEMADE FOX.

Roro's power to destroy anti-teams, and Shine's Bisu-eating powers shall rise...but then that still leaves two players to take games from the other SKT players

I still believe D:
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 29 2010 07:22 GMT
#6
God I wish I could stay up for every SKT match.
But I suppose I can't, so I'll just have to see how it turns out.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17243 Posts
November 29 2010 07:30 GMT
#7
I wont stream this until the first SPL ends, but I'll PiP it and swap between like normal.
twitch.tv/cratonz
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 29 2010 07:32 GMT
#8
Not really disciple level, but hope you like it anyway.
+ Show Spoiler +
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WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 29 2010 07:39 GMT
#9
Bisu to get outshined again!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
November 29 2010 07:44 GMT
#10
On November 29 2010 16:39 Emon_ wrote:
Bisu to get outshined again!

haha nice.

gogo FOX!
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 29 2010 07:46 GMT
#11
really dont care who wins, but hopefully Bisu wont be too rattled by his OSL losses
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 07:49:19
November 29 2010 07:47 GMT
#12
Bisu vs Shine round 2 lets go!

Also fantasy vs Baby = want.

edit: oh oh and afrostyle's first PL game! hopefully (ps is that a black cloud in the banner or afrotoss's hair?)
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17243 Posts
November 29 2010 07:50 GMT
#13
On November 29 2010 16:39 Emon_ wrote:
Bisu to get outshined again!

That fluke wont repeat itself in a million years.
twitch.tv/cratonz
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 29 2010 08:18 GMT
#14
On November 29 2010 16:50 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 16:39 Emon_ wrote:
Bisu to get outshined again!

That fluke wont repeat itself in a million years.

that's what they said last year

Translator:3
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 29 2010 08:43 GMT
#15
my name is roro
you killed my father
PREPARE TO DIE

gogo roro shine & paralyze!
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
November 29 2010 08:45 GMT
#16
cant wait for this, im literally about to fall asleep on my keyboard but i must watch my team play

Wemade Fighting!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 29 2010 08:50 GMT
#17
Wonder if we'll see Paralyze in the line up tonight, been looking forward to this all week. GO SKT T1!

Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
November 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#18
The other match probably isn't finished when this starts, so I'll be streaming when it begins.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/xsebt
화이팅
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
November 29 2010 09:05 GMT
#19
would like baby or shine to rip bisu or best a new one.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 29 2010 09:09 GMT
#20
omg, i want bisu to wtfpwnroflstomp shine sooooo bad. plz make it happen, bw god.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
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