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iNoobSoWhat
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation370 Posts
November 18 2010 12:02 GMT
#261
On November 18 2010 20:59 Doraemon wrote:
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On November 18 2010 20:56 vishrut wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:55 Lann555 wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:54 DracoVolantus wrote:
bisy vs really


This could be tough for the Bisu. PvT is still his weakest matchup and Really is quite good vs Toss. And if he loses he faces a zerg on Triathlon

how is him facing a zerg is a bad thing or do you mean the map?


Protoss is horrible on triathlon

BvZ 2-0 on triathlon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:02 GMT
#262
On November 18 2010 21:00 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 20:58 doothegee wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:55 Lann555 wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:54 DracoVolantus wrote:
bisy vs really


This could be tough for the Bisu. PvT is still his weakest matchup and Really is quite good vs Toss. And if he loses he faces a zerg on Triathlon

Bisu's PvT hasn't been too bad recently, has it?

It's been okay, but it lacks finesse.

Well he has been learning from Best.

But actually when best moves his forces to break a terran tank position there's actually a ton of subtleties involved that most people don't notice. Best's positioning and the way he sends in his forces (not just a-move!) is superior to ordinary tosses.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:03 GMT
#263
On November 18 2010 21:02 iNoobSoWhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 20:59 Doraemon wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:56 vishrut wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:55 Lann555 wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:54 DracoVolantus wrote:
bisy vs really


This could be tough for the Bisu. PvT is still his weakest matchup and Really is quite good vs Toss. And if he loses he faces a zerg on Triathlon

how is him facing a zerg is a bad thing or do you mean the map?


Protoss is horrible on triathlon

BvZ 2-0 on triathlon

Why is everyone even considering the possibility that Bisu will lose against Really?
It won't happen.

No need to think about hypothetical situations.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 18 2010 12:04 GMT
#264
lol @ Hyun trying to cover the sky with 5 mutas against 12 MnM >.>

and lol @ Really running into two lurkers in a straight line
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 18 2010 12:05 GMT
#265
Map doesn't matter, Hyun and Orion are still bad enough to be the type of zergs to lose to a +1 speedlot timing attack. Map only helps you if you're good enough to abuse the nature of it and none of them are even good with mutalisks to begin with.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 18 2010 12:05 GMT
#266
On November 18 2010 21:02 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 21:00 Hyde wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:58 doothegee wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:55 Lann555 wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:54 DracoVolantus wrote:
bisy vs really


This could be tough for the Bisu. PvT is still his weakest matchup and Really is quite good vs Toss. And if he loses he faces a zerg on Triathlon

Bisu's PvT hasn't been too bad recently, has it?

It's been okay, but it lacks finesse.

Well he has been learning from Best.

But actually when best moves his forces to break a terran tank position there's actually a ton of subtleties involved that most people don't notice. Best's positioning and the way he sends in his forces (not just a-move!) is superior to ordinary tosses.

I completely agree. His zealots always find their way deep into the tank line and tear everything up.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:05 GMT
#267
On November 18 2010 21:04 doothegee wrote:
lol @ Hyun trying to cover the sky with 5 mutas against 12 MnM >.>

and lol @ Really running into two lurkers in a straight line

indeed.
What a display of starcraft mastery we were just treated to.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 18 2010 12:05 GMT
#268
On November 18 2010 21:03 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 21:02 iNoobSoWhat wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:59 Doraemon wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:56 vishrut wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:55 Lann555 wrote:
On November 18 2010 20:54 DracoVolantus wrote:
bisy vs really


This could be tough for the Bisu. PvT is still his weakest matchup and Really is quite good vs Toss. And if he loses he faces a zerg on Triathlon

how is him facing a zerg is a bad thing or do you mean the map?


Protoss is horrible on triathlon

BvZ 2-0 on triathlon

Why is everyone even considering the possibility that Bisu will lose against Really?
It won't happen.

No need to think about hypothetical situations.


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ohai

just messing, I don't think Really has much of a chance.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:06 GMT
#269
Time for some circuits to break over Bisu's amazing play!
Bisu the red protoss at 5.
Really the blue victim at 1.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
November 18 2010 12:06 GMT
#270
Problem with Bisu PvT seems to be that he can be overagressive and too eager to engage and put pressure on. That's part of what makes him such a beast in PvZ, because he doesn't allow the zerg to ever comfortably macro up, but it's not that great vs a turtling Terran where patience is often the way to go.

He also needs to stop stasis'ing the front tanks to create an invincible wall for he Terran. I have seen him to that more often then not
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:07 GMT
#271
Bisu opens with a pylon by his geyser...what a masterful move

Really starts with a depot below his CC..."nice strategy"
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:07 GMT
#272
Bisu opens with gateway. he's already preparing to muster the forces to roll over this scrub.

Really starts with a rax. Doesn't he know he has no chance without the excess economy provided by 13CC?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 18 2010 12:07 GMT
#273
On November 18 2010 21:06 Lann555 wrote:
Problem with Bisu PvT seems to be that he can be overagressive and too eager to engage and put pressure on. That's part of what makes him such a beast in PvZ, because he doesn't allow the zerg to ever comfortably macro up, but it's not that great vs a turtling Terran where patience is often the way to go.

He also needs to stop stasis'ing the front tanks to create an invincible wall for he Terran. I have seen him to that more often then not

less archons = more storms = profit!
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:08 GMT
#274
Bisu takes his gas, starts his core
soon his goons will rumble down the plains!

Really starts his fact, 1 scv on gas.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:08 GMT
#275
really's scv in bisu's main - bisu's probe sent the wrong way to scout but now that's being corrected - joins a zealot in moving forwards

bisu getting range
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 18 2010 12:09 GMT
#276
On November 18 2010 21:06 Lann555 wrote:
Problem with Bisu PvT seems to be that he can be overagressive and too eager to engage and put pressure on. That's part of what makes him such a beast in PvZ, because he doesn't allow the zerg to ever comfortably macro up, but it's not that great vs a turtling Terran where patience is often the way to go.

He also needs to stop stasis'ing the front tanks to create an invincible wall for he Terran. I have seen him to that more often then not

I know! That really irks me when I see him do that. Then his units run further up only to be shelled again.

Although after reading his interview he really finds tanks intimidating, and unlike his PvZ where he has sairs scouting ahead he feels like he can't approach a tank line. I guess he should learn how to use observers properly?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:09 GMT
#277
fact finishes for really, shop starts immediately
1 probe/1 zealot vs 3 rines and a rax/depot gap
4 rines now, really still adding more

really puts all scvs back on gas?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 18 2010 12:10 GMT
#278
1 tank out for really - 1 tank 5 rine move to the nat - bisu poppin in/out with 2 goons

scv arrives to see the warping nex at bisu's nat

bisu picks off the first tank, losing one goon

mines finish just in time

really taking his nat
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 18 2010 12:10 GMT
#279
Really tries to FD and loses his tank.

ugh
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 18 2010 12:10 GMT
#280
SUP. Bisu gets the tank and a bunch of marines.
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