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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 07 2010 07:01 GMT
#641
Best, please finish this before Jaehoon gets arbiter tech in the other game!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
November 07 2010 07:02 GMT
#642
On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.

New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.

Best > WMFrandomterran





No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup


Fake yellow disagrees with your statement.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:02 GMT
#643
zealot out for best - lucifer can't get in now
both players expo off one gate, as is traditional on this bleh map
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
November 07 2010 07:02 GMT
#644
Did he just send zeal to wrong ramp?
Stuck.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
November 07 2010 07:02 GMT
#645
On November 07 2010 16:02 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.

New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.

Best > WMFrandomterran





No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup


Fake yellow disagrees with your statement.


Fake yellow's in prison
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:03 GMT
#646
best takes his gas quite a bit earlier than lucifer's?
core for both players

lucifer's zealot attacking best's back back back eggs, but stops - bored I guess
starts gagain

lucifer tries to get a probe in best's main again, fails
2nd gate for best
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:04 GMT
#647
citadel for best - interesting

2nd gate for lucifer, best's probe still alive, in his nat
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
November 07 2010 07:04 GMT
#648
On November 07 2010 16:02 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:02 O-ops wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.

New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.

Best > WMFrandomterran





No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup


Fake yellow disagrees with your statement.


Fake yellow's in prison


He still disagrees. His ZvP was shitty compare to his anything else.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:04 GMT
#649
On November 07 2010 16:02 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:02 O-ops wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.

New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.

Best > WMFrandomterran





No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup


Fake yellow disagrees with your statement.


Fake yellow's in prison

I think all of them got suspended sentences

more forces hacking away at the best's back back back eggs
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:04 GMT
#650
archives for best
2 goons finish off best's scouting probe, range for lucifer and robo
timing might be tight
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:05 GMT
#651
best breaks his back eggs and his forces discover lucifer breaking his back back eggs, forces them to back off

lucifer taking his 3rd earlier than best's
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
November 07 2010 07:05 GMT
#652
... is obs going to come out in time?...
Bisu is the man
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:06 GMT
#653
observatory first for lucifer - but 2 dts are out for best
will be tight

citadel for lucifer

@andrewlt don't talk about the other game in this thread please
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
November 07 2010 07:06 GMT
#654
DT's get like 3 probe kills?

good obs timing
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:07 GMT
#655
dt spazzes out in best's back back nat, wasting valuable time

obs is out just as probes are maynarded to lucifer's front nat as the dts arrive
maybe 3 kills?
best adding 2 more gates (to 4?), finally getting range
lucifer adding 5th gate, forge
best's back back nat finishes
6th gate for lucifer
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
November 07 2010 07:07 GMT
#656
Best's dt rush failed horribly. that's Lee Young ho's starsense, no surprise
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:08 GMT
#657
lucifer's observer checking out best's back back nat

best adding 5th and 6th gates, his own robo and observatory is up
his first observer is out but misses lucifer's observer in his main
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:08 GMT
#658
On November 07 2010 16:07 alypse wrote:
Best's dt rush failed horribly. that's Lee Young ho's starsense, no surprise

this 'starsense' won't help him in the end I don't think

best getting his obs into lucifer's main - sees 2 templar emerge from the gates, the spinning forge

lucifer moving lots of goons to best's back back nat - kills the bottom 2nd egg
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:09 GMT
#659
best taking his front nat
while lucifer taking his back back nat
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:10 GMT
#660
best adding another 4 gates - the explosion of units comes soon

lucifer's zealot speed done - moving towards best's front nat?

best loads up his shuttle - with templar?

lucifer adding 5 gates
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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