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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
August 14 2010 10:54 GMT
#1221
On August 14 2010 19:53 KTF_CloaK wrote:
flash vs jaedong ftw, who is with me!?!?!?


Im tired of Flash vs Jaedong finals... so many in the last seasons....

I would prefer a Fantasy Jaedong if I could choose... for a change.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 11:16:03
August 14 2010 10:54 GMT
#1222
On August 14 2010 19:50 Cpadolf wrote:
On the one hand it is so sad that Sea can never get into a Ro4 considering how good he is at his best. But on the other hand JAE FUCKING DONG BABY! LWWW Zerg for the golden badge!


Being good at proleague is completely different from being good at series matches. Sea isn't good at series matches. The reason why Light and Sea can never achieve anything while Flash can is because Flash doesn't play as if he's terrified of his opponent.

No matter who his opponent is, Flash takes risks and doesn't play as if he's scared of his opponent and that's why he's probably going to make dual finals yet again. Not once did Sea move outside his comfort zone nor did he ever play standard bio terran. Mech every single game because its "imba" and he needs its "imbaness" to take down Jaedong.

This is what Flash and Fantasy have in common. They'll do whatever it takes to win, even if it means doing a gay bunker rush or 14CC every single game.

I think Light beating Effort is far more surprising than Sea losing to Jaedong. I honestly expected Light to get utterly crushed because of how badly he can play in high pressure situations (against Pure, against Tempest, against Kwanro). Bizarre Effort never attempted to kwanroll Light like he does against Flash.
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
August 14 2010 10:55 GMT
#1223
On August 14 2010 19:53 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:52 FearDarkness wrote:
Wonder if Fantasy can unleash the builds he prepared for Flash in the playoffs.


Flash is favorite.


But fantasy is known to kicking favorite's ball's when nobody expect.


Who knows, he might live up to the League Terrorist moniker yet again.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 14 2010 10:55 GMT
#1224
(T)Light vs. (T)Fantasy FINALS GG
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roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
August 14 2010 10:55 GMT
#1225
YES JD! <3<3<3
JD just needs to make zerglings in order to beat Light lol
Hustla
Profile Joined August 2009
Russian Federation27 Posts
August 14 2010 10:56 GMT
#1226
THEDONG HWAITING!
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 14 2010 10:56 GMT
#1227
On August 14 2010 19:54 Letmelose wrote:
Jaedong: "I will keep the pride of zerg intact."

Damn right you will.


haha omg jaedong so epic

THE LEDAER OF THE ZERG
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 14 2010 10:56 GMT
#1228
On August 14 2010 19:53 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:51 Lann555 wrote:
On August 14 2010 19:50 Ace wrote:
The level of TvZ between Light and Sea is amazing. Light actually struggled vs Effort and still looked to have a more firm grasp of the matchup than Sea when using mech.


Well, Light is the best TvZ'er out there (imho better then Flash). Still, I think Jaedong will win it purely on mental skill. Light is somewhat of a choker too


Why do you say he's better than flash? I think flash has actually become a master of mindgames in his own light and I think that puts him above light. He predicted Jaedong's 3 hatch before pool builds perfectly.


I'm a little biased as I like Light alot more then Flash tbh. I do think Light's MnM control is better then Flash though.
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
August 14 2010 10:56 GMT
#1229
JD totally had Sea figured out with his 3 hatch before pool builds, it was like Flash's 14CC every game.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
August 14 2010 10:57 GMT
#1230
On August 14 2010 19:56 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:53 Warrior Madness wrote:
On August 14 2010 19:51 Lann555 wrote:
On August 14 2010 19:50 Ace wrote:
The level of TvZ between Light and Sea is amazing. Light actually struggled vs Effort and still looked to have a more firm grasp of the matchup than Sea when using mech.


Well, Light is the best TvZ'er out there (imho better then Flash). Still, I think Jaedong will win it purely on mental skill. Light is somewhat of a choker too


Why do you say he's better than flash? I think flash has actually become a master of mindgames in his own light and I think that puts him above light. He predicted Jaedong's 3 hatch before pool builds perfectly.


I'm a little biased as I like Light alot more then Flash tbh. I do think Light's MnM control is better then Flash though.


Light's MM control is the fucking

best
thing

ever

to grace the BW scene

he will crush Jaedong under his left heel

and the Zergs will cry

oh, how they shall cry
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
August 14 2010 10:57 GMT
#1231
Great stuff today. I will never convert to sc2. Ever. Sc2 is a good game, but this... This is perfection.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 14 2010 10:59 GMT
#1232
On August 14 2010 19:56 teamsolid wrote:
JD totally had Sea figured out with his 3 hatch before pool builds, it was like Flash's 14CC every game.


Yes, Terrans have to be weary about getting predicable with their new builds. Mixing in some other builds with early agression would be nice to balance it out. That's why Sea never gets anywhere in a SL. He is just so predictable and safe. Just look at how Fantasy played in his series vs Calm. He mixes in 'cheesy' buils with the Mech builds to balance it out. That's why he actually gets far in SL every now and then, despite having a lower winrate then Sea overall
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
August 14 2010 11:00 GMT
#1233
On August 14 2010 19:56 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:54 Letmelose wrote:
Jaedong: "I will keep the pride of zerg intact."

Damn right you will.


haha omg jaedong so epic

THE LEDAER OF THE ZERG


"This is Kate Lockwell reporting live for UNN on Char where Lee "The Tyrant" Jaedong has just been married to Sarah "The Queen of Blades" Kerrigan for the complete control and utter domination of the Zerg Swarm"
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 14 2010 11:00 GMT
#1234
Hwasin's MnM was better <.<

I'll put Flash over Light in TvZ. His I-don't-have-to-push-to-your-side-of-the-map-to-win style is very boring, but very solid.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 14 2010 11:00 GMT
#1235
Sweet, Jaedong finally beat his vT peak from like one and a half years ago, I can't count how many times he has been one game away from doing that and then lost.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 14 2010 11:00 GMT
#1236
Jaedong is such a beast!!!! Hows that mech coming along Terran? Three straight wins vs. Sea is crazy good.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 11:02:24
August 14 2010 11:01 GMT
#1237
On August 14 2010 19:51 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:50 Ace wrote:
The level of TvZ between Light and Sea is amazing. Light actually struggled vs Effort and still looked to have a more firm grasp of the matchup than Sea when using mech.


Well, Light is the best TvZ'er out there (imho better then Flash).


No he isn't. This is one of the more ridiculous misconceptions that has come about, simply as a byproduct of a great winning percentage that doesn't look at all at how the games are played. Light is very good at TvZ no doubt about it but what game has he won since he got Kwanrolled 3-0 that Flash wouldn't have?

Light is the epitome of a solid but not great Terran - someone who understands what to do and is able to ride metagame waves (such as the current T > Z one) to success. That's why he's never gone this deep into a league until now (finally got a TvZ run when the matchup metagame/maps have aligned). He hasn't suddenly gotten amazing against Zerg - Light has always been extremely good at digesting a situation and understanding what to do, which is why he was the first Terran to do a lot of things such as win on Battle Royale. But that doesn't make him better at TvZ than the most skilled Terran of all time in his prime.

Just look at the Triathlon game against Effort. Once things started to get out of hand, Light started to lose control over the situation. Flash would never have made that stupid "give away 10 Tanks for nothing at a moment when I absolutely need to turtle" move in a million years. It's just one moment but it's representative of the difference between them.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
August 14 2010 11:02 GMT
#1238
On August 14 2010 20:00 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:56 alffla wrote:
On August 14 2010 19:54 Letmelose wrote:
Jaedong: "I will keep the pride of zerg intact."

Damn right you will.


haha omg jaedong so epic

THE LEDAER OF THE ZERG


"This is Kate Lockwell reporting live for UNN on Char where Lee "The Tyrant" Jaedong has just been married to Sarah "The Queen of Blades" Kerrigan for the complete control and utter domination of the Zerg Swarm"



.... in other news... oh wait... commercial... go to commercial!
hey man just curious
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 14 2010 11:02 GMT
#1239
JAEDONG!!!! so wonderful games tonight, well I wish Effort could make it through, sick of TvZ chit for the whole month, well Good luck vs Light, Sea I wish you be there too, sorry man
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 11:03:51
August 14 2010 11:03 GMT
#1240
On August 14 2010 20:00 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 19:56 alffla wrote:
On August 14 2010 19:54 Letmelose wrote:
Jaedong: "I will keep the pride of zerg intact."

Damn right you will.


haha omg jaedong so epic

THE LEDAER OF THE ZERG


"This is Kate Lockwell reporting live for UNN on Char where Lee "The Tyrant" Jaedong has just been married to Sarah "The Queen of Blades" Kerrigan for the complete control and utter domination of the Zerg Swarm"


hahaha, but Kate is the anchor now!

more like, " and now for some very grim news. The Zerg Swarm have been detected in all sectors of Terran space after a botched invasion of the Zerg homeworld of Char, as Lee Jae Dong leads the defense of Char with precision swarms and the thickened carapace of Ultralisks. We are all doomed."
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
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