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PoP
France15446 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stats PvP, Violet PvT, Flash TvZ are pretty ideal. Hoejja vs Fantasy is an excellent draw for KT because we don't rely on Hoejja's win, as is tempest vs and SKT zerg apparently. That's true. But it wasn't that bad at all for T1. Fair draw for both teams imo. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:44 Subversive wrote: Out of these 262 pages and around 5200 posts I wonder how many are of SKT1 fans making excuses? Assuming only 1000 are from end of set 6 I'm going to assume about 400 are complaints and whinging. SKT1 has been pretty cordial. A few people are pseudo-analyzing the games, but most of them are admitting defeat humbly. Don't be so presumptuous. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:44 Subversive wrote: Out of these 262 pages and around 5200 posts I wonder how many are of SKT1 fans making excuses? Assuming only 1000 are from end of set 6 I'm going to assume about 400 are complaints and whinging. SKT fans have been good. Sure, there are always some bad apples, but I've been much more of a sore winner than they have generally been sore losers. Can't say the same for CJ fans. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
Jeezus. | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2246 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:46 KumquatExpress wrote: Sorry, how were you planning to win a mirror matchup without battle micro? You either harass your opponent, giving you the economic edge, you have better army positioning in fights, which translates somewhat to battle micro, or you can just sit back and macro. Just because a pvp goes into a 3-base macro game does not mean both of the players suck. You want a decisive PvP, go watch 4 gate goon vs one gate expand. look at Bisu's matches vs Pure, if Pure were capable of not doing stupid mistakes like fighting up the hill he would've won | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:43 PoP wrote: How big was the crowd btw? 30,000 last PL was between 20-40000 the PL before that was 15000 the PL before taht was 70000 and the PL before that was 30000 Keep in mind today was a "Heat Wave" day so not many people left their houses | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:35 moopie wrote: Only disappointing thing about tonight (aside from hoejja and forgg losing  ) was that Reach and Yellow didn't get on stage at the end. They are part of the family, and they will be again soon, they should have shared in the victory.Montage at the end is decent at best. I'm almost certain I saw Yellow on stage with a KT champion shirt on. Didn't see Reach. | ||
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LetMeShine
979 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:48 SimonB wrote: I'm almost certain I saw Yellow on stage with a KT champion shirt on. Didn't see Reach. Did you? I saw them both at the end in the audience (at the front), when Violet was getting interviewed about the KONG dance and they cut to yellow and they were both blushing. Didn't see them go on stage though. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:49 moopie wrote: Did you? I saw them both at the end in the audience (at the front), when Violet was getting interviewed about the KONG dance and they cut to yellow and they were both blushing. Didn't see them go on stage though. I thought I did, but now I'm having doubts since nobody else seems to have. I remember I posted "KONG!" when it happened, but nobody else commented on it. | ||
GTR
51703 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:48 MrHoon wrote: 30,000 last PL was between 20-40000 the PL before that was 15000 the PL before taht was 70000 and the PL before that was 30000 Keep in mind today was a "Heat Wave" day so not many people left their houses 2004-07-17 스카이 2004 프로리그 1라운드 결승전 - 10만명 (SKY PL 2004 R1 100,000) 우승 웅진(당시 한빛), 준우승 SK텔레콤 2005-07-30 스카이 프로리그 2005 전기리그 결승전 - 12만명 (SKY PL 2005 R1 120,000) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 KT(당시 KTF) 2006-07-29 스카이 프로리그 2006 전기리그 결승전 - 4만명 (SKY PL 2006 R1 40,000) (Note: it was pouring rain, hard) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 MBC게임 2007-08-04 신한은행 프로리그 2007 전기리그 결승전 - 7만명 (Shinhan PL 2007 R1 70,000) 우승 삼성전자, 준우승 화승(당시 르까프) 2008-08-09 신한은행 프로리그 2008 결승전 - 3만명 (Shinhan PL 2008 30,000) 우승 삼성전자, 준우승 하이트(당시 온게임넷) 2009-08-07 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 결승전 1차전 - 1만 5천명 (Shinhan PL 08-09 15,000) 승 SK텔레콤, 패 화승 2009-08-08 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 결승전 2차전 - 4만명 (Shinhan PL 08-09 40,000) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 화승 2010-08-07 신한은행 프로리그 09-10 결승전 - 3만명 (Shinhan PL 09-10 30,000) (Note: Extreme Heat Wave) 우승 KT, 준우승 SK텔레콤 | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:53 GTR wrote: 2004-07-17 스카이 2004 프로리그 1라운드 결승전 - 10만명 (SKY PL 2004 R1 100,000) 우승 웅진(당시 한빛), 준우승 SK텔레콤 2005-07-30 스카이 프로리그 2005 전기리그 결승전 - 12만명 (SKY PL 2005 R1 120,000) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 KT(당시 KTF) 2006-07-29 스카이 프로리그 2006 전기리그 결승전 - 4만명 (SKY PL 2006 R1 40,000) (Note: it was pouring rain, hard) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 MBC게임 2007-08-04 신한은행 프로리그 2007 전기리그 결승전 - 7만명 (Shinhan PL 2007 R1 70,000) 우승 삼성전자, 준우승 화승(당시 르까프) 2008-08-09 신한은행 프로리그 2008 결승전 - 3만명 (Shinhan PL 2008 30,000) 우승 삼성전자, 준우승 하이트(당시 온게임넷) 2009-08-07 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 결승전 1차전 - 1만 5천명 (Shinhan PL 08-09 15,000) 승 SK텔레콤, 패 화승 2009-08-08 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 결승전 2차전 - 4만명 (Shinhan PL 08-09 40,000) 우승 SK텔레콤, 준우승 화승 2010-08-07 신한은행 프로리그 09-10 결승전 - 3만명 (Shinhan PL 09-10 30,000) (Note: Extreme Heat Wave) 우승 KT, 준우승 SK텔레콤 120K in 2005? Seriously? Wow. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:53 GTR wrote: 2009-08-07 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 결승전 1차전 - 1만 5천명 (Shinhan PL 08-09 15,000) 승 SK텔레콤, 패 화승 What happened here? | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
Flash fighting! | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
it was the first day of the finals with a super ace format, so nothing was going to be decided yet | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Day 1 in the super ace format. Not many people came because it wasn't as big a deal, as there was definitely going to be a deciding bo7 the next day. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:47 SimonB wrote: SKT fans have been good. Sure, there are always some bad apples, but I've been much more of a sore winner than they have generally been sore losers. Can't say the same for CJ fans. Probably has something to do with Flash only winning one game. If he had won two, you might see some more bullshit about SKT being the deeper team and stuff. But KT really is a deserving champ and us SKT fans should be pretty happy with the beautifull run through the playoffs. Beating CJ was truly a pleasure (the rest was just icing on the cake) and Fantasy doing so well in Ace matches was good for all us Fantasy fans  | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:42 PoP wrote: Funny how every time a team won the coach apparently "outguessed" the opponent's. Bisu getting a PvP, Fantasy a TvZ (say whatever you want, he's been really good at it lately), S2 a ZvP and Canata a TvP (statistically his best matchup over the last few months) looked like excellent matchups for T1 overall. Excellent matchups for T1.. on paper. KT was able to abuse SKT's predictability and came prepared w/ special builds for the occasion. 1 gate core expo w/ a fast third, would've only worked against Bisu's DT Forge FE. When Fantasy goes bionic, it's either 1-1-1 or 4 rax.. and Hoejja nearly damn won that w/ his smart mass muta/ling mid-game army to crush the 4 rax army. Why s2 went Mutas on a map where Sair/Reaver is a very big possibility, I don't know at all.. but a big early game econ advantage plus a BO win was too much for s2. Hell, even ForGG had something special prepared. His strong FD would've killed Best if he had expanded after 3 Dragoons.. unfortunately I think Best saw the mass of marines before he was attacked so unlucky for ForGG. I don't know why you say Canata drawing a TvP was good though, he's always terrible at that match up even if he wins. That inbase proxy showed how confident he was to play TvP. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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