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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 22 2010 21:10 GMT
#881
On July 23 2010 05:48 WWJDD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 05:35 Grobyc wrote:
SEA MAKES IT TO RO8 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D


Calm down Lucy. He's not in yet.

**Channeling Dr. Cox from Scrubs. Not meant to condescend**

oh whoops, my bad

was so excited I scrolled right down to the results and missed the writing in italics

but... SOON!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 22 2010 21:10 GMT
#882
BISU!!!! Channel the powers of the MSL bonjwa you know is inside you! You must win this MSL!
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
July 22 2010 21:14 GMT
#883
I think Bisu was way too careless with his dragoons, which is why he failed his initial push on Sea's frontline. He should've let them sit back and let his carriers do most of the work and using dragoons to only help defend his carriers vs. goliaths, instead of letting them attack supply depots and shit while getting melted by tank fire. If he had successfully pushed Sea back, it'd be Bisu's game to lose from that point on.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
July 22 2010 21:17 GMT
#884
NOOOO Bisu...

Ah bo3, i was worried last night lol.

Though he had that game till he went carriers...
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 22 2010 21:32 GMT
#885
LOL at pictures ahah
Entusman #51
Dynamix
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation63 Posts
July 22 2010 21:49 GMT
#886
As a rule, gamer who wins 1st game passes Ro16. Sad but true
Bisu fan
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 22:00:42
July 22 2010 22:00 GMT
#887
Poll: Who has the better chance to win 2-1?

Bisu (23)
 
74%

Roro (3)
 
10%

HyuK (3)
 
10%

Midas (2)
 
6%

31 total votes

Your vote: Who has the better chance to win 2-1?

(Vote): Roro
(Vote): HyuK
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Midas



Who wants to predict a "reverse" kill?

Edit: Yes, I know I said BETTER instead of (P)BeSt (stupid English language)

Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 22 2010 22:09 GMT
#888
On July 22 2010 20:17 ArvickHero wrote:
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On July 22 2010 20:12 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 22 2010 20:06 Doraemon wrote:
why didnt you just play standard,,,,

Every time someone's favorite player loses, someone says "why didn't he just play standard?"

Look:
1) Carriers are standard on PR, and often in TvP as well.
2) You can't just "play standard" and win. What does that even mean? If a player "played standard" all the time, then they wouldn't win a single game, because they'd get sniped each and every game. The best players, like Flash, fantasy, Jaedong, EffOrt, and yes, Bisu, are the best players in no small part because they are very good at knowing how to play against their opponents and the map, and not just "standard". B-teamers know how to play standard. A-teamers know how to win.

There's only one instance where this criticism is valid, and it's when a player takes an unnecessary risk on a map they should win. If a T goes BBS on a map that's hugely T>P favored, and loses with it, then yeah, question it. But when a (P)Bisu goes carriers on a fantastic carrier map, and loses the lead through his own fault and his opponent's smart play, then it has nothing to do with being "standard" or not, it has something to do with being outplayed.

Well, Bisu in general is pretty bad with Carriers compared to his Arbiter play, and has the capability to do amazing things with an Arbiter/ground army composition on maps that were considered T-imba unless you went Carriers (Katrina anyone?). Unless he can really come to understand how to use Carriers, I think he should stay far away from them..


a progamer must have confidence in his ability to win with the style that dominates the current map pool. Bisu went carriers because Bisu was confident his carriers could finish the job. it seems like you missed the point of tree.hugger's post a little bit, in that a progamer can't simply strictly play to what you perceive as his strengths every game. he'll be figured out and demolished by anyone and everyone.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
July 22 2010 22:11 GMT
#889
god damn it. sea had a really nice defense though.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 22 2010 22:24 GMT
#890
On July 23 2010 03:49 matjlav wrote:
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On July 23 2010 03:03 Nick_54 wrote:
He was obviously dedicating most of his practice time to getting a 4-0 record in proleague playoffs and getting his time to the next round, something Sea could not do.


I hate posts like this that suggest that there is no luck factor. I'm sure Sea spent just as much time as Bisu practicing for Proleague. Like, seriously, are you saying that Sea blew off PL? I agree with the rest of your post, though.


Sea sorta did blow off PL since, you know, he's not in it anymore
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 23:10:48
July 22 2010 23:10 GMT
#891
Bisu, Terran, SL, stop me if you've heard this one before.
KumquatExpress
Profile Joined October 2009
United States344 Posts
July 22 2010 23:11 GMT
#892
On July 23 2010 06:49 Dynamix wrote:
As a rule, gamer who wins 1st game passes Ro16. Sad but true


Got any stats to back that up?
Speedythinggoesin, speedythingcomesout.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 22 2010 23:41 GMT
#893
On July 23 2010 08:10 Count9 wrote:
Bisu, Terran, SL, stop me if you've heard this one before.


go.go got lucky
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 23 2010 00:03 GMT
#894
Sea beat Bisu? -___- guess Bisu's PvT isnt back
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 00:28:17
July 23 2010 00:21 GMT
#895
On July 23 2010 07:24 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 03:49 matjlav wrote:
On July 23 2010 03:03 Nick_54 wrote:
He was obviously dedicating most of his practice time to getting a 4-0 record in proleague playoffs and getting his time to the next round, something Sea could not do.


I hate posts like this that suggest that there is no luck factor. I'm sure Sea spent just as much time as Bisu practicing for Proleague. Like, seriously, are you saying that Sea blew off PL? I agree with the rest of your post, though.


Sea sorta did blow off PL since, you know, he's not in it anymore


Yea blew it off for a whole extra day or 2..they only just got eliminated...Bisu and Sea more than likely had equal practice time...and considering skt1 is known for giving its players individual league practice time yea...

Edit: Heres Sea's quote from the post interview

"Your feelings on winning your first game of the Ro16?
▲ Just like other times, upon actually reaching the day of the match, I became nervous. Thankfully, once I entered the player’s booth I calmed down. Because both of us were busy with schedules, I’m sure neither of us could practice as much as we wanted but I think I was able to win because I had a strategy I kept practicing until now."

As I said Bisu and Jaedong fans are by far the most delusional. Its almost cult like sometimes. Sea played well and won. I mean Bisu loses to like the 2nd best terran and all the fans are making up ridiculous excuses for why he lost. "Why didnt he play standard!!!" "He must not have been practicing" "The map must be imbalanced for terran (LOL)".


Sidenote: Didnt see make it to ro8 that year that forgg drank jesus juice, wrecked everyone and won the msl?
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 23 2010 00:23 GMT
#896
On July 23 2010 09:03 serenidite wrote:
Sea beat Bisu? -___- guess Bisu's PvT isnt back



Yea Sea is horrible...hes only SLIGHTLY better at TvP than Casy and FBH. Bisu must be slumping or having nightmares of Chrh.
elmoscousin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States30 Posts
July 23 2010 00:28 GMT
#897
i have a question, why didnt bisu make any units?
Brood War is hard T_T
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 23 2010 00:28 GMT
#898
On July 23 2010 09:23 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 09:03 serenidite wrote:
Sea beat Bisu? -___- guess Bisu's PvT isnt back



Yea Sea is horrible...hes only SLIGHTLY better at TvP than Casy and FBH. Bisu must be slumping or having nightmares of Chrh.


Haha the sarcasm is pungent.
Remember Violet.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 00:29:54
July 23 2010 00:29 GMT
#899
To everyone complaining about Bisu attacking sea at the very end:
Sea was on 4 base / transferring workers to his 5th and bisu was on 4 with no 5th in sight. It was a desperation attack, he would have been equally fucked if he did nothing.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 23 2010 00:30 GMT
#900
On July 23 2010 08:41 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 08:10 Count9 wrote:
Bisu, Terran, SL, stop me if you've heard this one before.


go.go got lucky


twice!
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
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