EPTOn July 20 2010 21:16 Subversive wrote:
I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.
I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.
Or 14-2 in the last 16 games... 87.5%
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
Or 14-2 in the last 16 games... 87.5% | ||
disciple
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
Snow doesn't even have experience with high pressure situations like this where the entire year is riding on this game. Effort does. It should have been no contest as to who got the ace spot. | ||
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zmeqt
Bulgaria527 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:16 darkemperor wrote: If your aunt had nuts, she would be your uncle. Sry but thats really true.The 2 teams were so even,that the map imabalnce decided the victory.The map was simply suited for one of the 2 SKT aces than Effort.Although it`s still good on SKT`s part to have 2 aces,and CJ only have one.That just shows that CJ is the deeper team. | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
FUCK there goes 3 points | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:17 LetMeShine wrote: Yeah seriously. Effort is not Jaedong and isn't a instant victory against protoss. He'll win the vast majority of the time but he's not "lol instant win". He's lost again and again pretty badly against Stats and as pointed out even against Horang2 who is awful against zerg. Sending Effort to fight Bisu is risky especially with a bad map. You're playing against the best PvZer ever seriously on a fairly "bad" ZvP map. yeah because there were really really many people here claiming that Effort was "lol instant win" vs Bisu, right? Effort is not Jaedong but he still is easily the 2nd best ZvPer in the world. Whatever, I dont even know what the point of argument is. Personally I think effort would have been the better choice against bisu, you disagree, no need to argue. | ||
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RisingTide
Australia769 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:17 7mk wrote: ok that makes more sense, I was really confused and surprised there about the 19-4 The 19-4 includes some offline pre-lim games. The 15-8 is televised games, but that includes his massive loss-streak. I prefer to see it as 14-2 :D | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:18 disciple wrote: yeah basically now all the fanboys who are thinking effort is a top notch player will blame it on the map, the coach and the team in general. If the coach is not sending him, he is not confident in his ability, simple as that. It was a do-or-die situation where the most experienced and skilled player should've stepped in. Effort won the osl, he has the guts to play on big stage, he has the zvp streak as well, yet the coach took the rational decision to send out a protoss, knowing almost for sure SKT will pick Bisu. Now Effort just saved face by not being the guy who lost it for CJ if you dont think the map decided this playoff you are quite ignorant | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
that's a monster 87.50%!!!!! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:19 SuperArc wrote: if you dont think the map decided this playoff you are quite ignorant If you don't think SKT having a star protoss player didn't decide the playoff then you are quite ignorant? I mean come on. | ||
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Guss
Sweden712 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:06 Lightwip wrote: Out of the 10 games SKT won Bisu wins x4 Best wins x3 Canata wins x1 Fantasy wins x1 s2 wins x1 Canata, Bisu, Best fighting! All awesome. Honestly, CJ was pretty much screwed for the ace match. Bisu was pretty much the sure choice for SKT, and if they sent Effort, he would lose to map imba. Snow just got outplayed. Wait, how is Polaris Rhapsody imba toward PvZ or TvZ? Clearly even a blind man can see that Terran has no hope on this map against a competent Protoss, hence Snow was sent out as a sniper against Fantasy. Although considering that SKT does have Bisu, surely coach Cho should have also anticipated the strong possibility of SKT fielding Bisu in ace match. Effort is perfectly competent against Bisu and Fantasy on this particular map, while Snow would have a significant advantage against Fantasy. Coach Cho took the risk, believed in Snow's PvP and sent Snow out. Bisu raped. | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
We all wish that Effort had of played and not Snow. Personally i like seeing Bisu win in a pvp to prove his whole return - BUT I would have preferred the epicness that Bisu v Effort would have shown us. I also think Snow was a mistake. He lost to Jangbi. He was bound to lose to Bisu. I think he played it great to make it so close. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:18 zmeqt wrote: Sry but thats really true.The 2 teams were so even,that the map imabalnce decided the victory.The map was simply suited for one of the 2 SKT aces than Effort.Although it`s still good on SKT`s part to have 2 aces,and CJ only have one.That just shows that CJ is the deeper team. Sup. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:19 SuperArc wrote: if you dont think the map decided this playoff you are quite ignorant Saying playoff was decided only because of one map is quite ignorant too | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:19 RisingTide wrote: The 19-4 includes some offline pre-lim games. The 15-8 is televised games, but that includes his massive loss-streak. I prefer to see it as 14-2 :D Interesting to know: Jaedong is 20-4 with the prelims games. Those two really have to meet in the MSL and/or OSL  | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:19 SuperArc wrote: if you dont think the map decided this playoff you are quite ignorant Worst post in the thread right here. XD <3 | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On July 20 2010 21:20 TwoToneTerran wrote: If you don't think SKT having a star protoss player didn't decide the playoff then you are quite ignorant? I mean come on. On July 20 2010 21:22 Tuke wrote: Saying playoff was decided only because of one map is quite ignorant too The teams SKT1 and CJ were both even in terms of strength. Both had one S-class player. But SKT1 had the map luck. Why do you think all games were decided by aces? | ||
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