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[SPL] PO, Day 3 - SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus - Page 99

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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 20 2010 12:13 GMT
#1961
On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote:
Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.

Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period.

EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad


Oh you missed the game where Horang2 beat Effort in a straight up game on Polaris?

I think Bisu can do better than that.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#1962
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#1963
I'm certainly gonna be cheering for SKT1 from now on
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#1964
On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote:
Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.

Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period.

EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad


Actually it's pretty bad, considering that on most other maps zerg is in favor and often enough not just slightly...
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#1965
On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote:
Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.

Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other.

also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1966
In that situation I think you need to trust your best player despite what the past was, like game 2 SKT sending fantasy even though he already lost. EffOrt should've gone out, whether he would lose is another story.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1967
On July 20 2010 21:08 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote:
Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.

Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period.


Or maybe like tons of people said already he expected fantasy?

No one is denying that SKT T1 won fair and square here, all were doing right now is defending our team against idiots who cant just cheer for their team after its won, but instead have to be a dick to the team that's lost in addition, saying how it both is not deep at all and doesnt have a good ace player. Why cant people just shut up and be happy?

are you kidding me? There was no way in hell he was expecting Fantasy over Bisu, especially considering the map. If anything, Bisu was expecting Effort and got surprised by Snow
Writerptrk
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1968
If the ace map had been Judgement day SKT1 would be crying tonight
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1969
On July 20 2010 21:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On July 20 2010 21:12 Highways wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:04 EpiK wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:02 disciple wrote:
CJ fans must admit they are lacking the ace player of Bisu's caliber. KT would've sent Flash, OZ would've sent Jaedong, regardless the map. CJ had to be "cute" and smart and play a protoss, because it was a protoss map. Our sidemen fucking sucked in the whole series but no other team has 2 S-class players, that just go out there and win the ace.

you serious? who beat flash in the Korean Air OSL finals?


Zerglings!

:o


Effort is a zergling!


Nah, zerglings are way prettier than that.

yeah, just look at harem and aers!
POGGERS
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1970
No excuses but I would be curious to find out what the result would of been if they sent out IRIS instead of BBYONG
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1971
On July 20 2010 21:14 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard


?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/125_Bisu/games
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1972
On July 20 2010 21:14 Vivi57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote:
Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.

Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other.

also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy.
Maybe fantasy was not expected. But saying that CJ would send out someone for ACE have them not practiced a build for both fantasy or bisu would be retarded. Of course his build was well prepared.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 12:16:36
July 20 2010 12:15 GMT
#1973
On July 20 2010 21:14 Vivi57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote:
Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.

Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other.

also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy.


Either way, saying Coach Cho thought that effort couldn't beat bisu is a hilarious conclusion.
Plus, of course Snow wasnt gonna prepare nothing but PvT
edit: ups shatter was faster
beep boop
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
July 20 2010 12:16 GMT
#1974
On July 20 2010 21:14 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard

I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
July 20 2010 12:16 GMT
#1975
On July 20 2010 21:15 SuperArc wrote:
If the ace map had been Judgement day SKT1 would be crying tonight


If your aunt had nuts, she would be your uncle.
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
July 20 2010 12:17 GMT
#1976
On July 20 2010 21:13 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote:
Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.

Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period.

EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad


Oh you missed the game where Horang2 beat Effort in a straight up game on Polaris?

I think Bisu can do better than that.


Yeah seriously. Effort is not Jaedong and isn't a instant victory against protoss. He'll win the vast majority of the time but he's not "lol instant win". He's lost again and again pretty badly against Stats and as pointed out even against Horang2 who is awful against zerg.

Sending Effort to fight Bisu is risky especially with a bad map. You're playing against the best PvZer ever seriously on a fairly "bad" ZvP map.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 20 2010 12:17 GMT
#1977
On July 20 2010 21:16 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:14 Lucumo wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard

I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.


ok that makes more sense, I was really confused and surprised there about the 19-4
beep boop
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 20 2010 12:18 GMT
#1978
On July 20 2010 21:15 Spyfire242 wrote:
No excuses but I would be curious to find out what the result would of been if they sent out IRIS instead of BBYONG

I think the result would've been the same. You could tell Canata was really confident that game, and he's desperate to get out of his slump. Except for wasting a few units with that mass vulture push in the beginning, his gameplay was flawless.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 20 2010 12:18 GMT
#1979
On July 20 2010 21:17 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:16 Subversive wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:14 Lucumo wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard

I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.


ok that makes more sense, I was really confused and surprised there about the 19-4


19-4 is including the preliminaries for OSL/MSL.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2010 12:18 GMT
#1980
On July 20 2010 21:15 darkemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 21:14 Lucumo wrote:
On July 20 2010 21:09 darkemperor wrote:
Bisu is 19-4 in last 23 games.. 82.6 % sooo good.

?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=125&part=games&league=standard


?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/125_Bisu/games

Ah, lol. You counted the prelims games too, that's why
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