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On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote: Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.
Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period. EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad
Oh you missed the game where Horang2 beat Effort in a straight up game on Polaris?
I think Bisu can do better than that.
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I'm certainly gonna be cheering for SKT1 from now on
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On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote: Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.
Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period. EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad
Actually it's pretty bad, considering that on most other maps zerg is in favor and often enough not just slightly...
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On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote: Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.
Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other. also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy.
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In that situation I think you need to trust your best player despite what the past was, like game 2 SKT sending fantasy even though he already lost. EffOrt should've gone out, whether he would lose is another story.
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On July 20 2010 21:08 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote: Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.
Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period. Or maybe like tons of people said already he expected fantasy? No one is denying that SKT T1 won fair and square here, all were doing right now is defending our team against idiots who cant just cheer for their team after its won, but instead have to be a dick to the team that's lost in addition, saying how it both is not deep at all and doesnt have a good ace player. Why cant people just shut up and be happy? are you kidding me? There was no way in hell he was expecting Fantasy over Bisu, especially considering the map. If anything, Bisu was expecting Effort and got surprised by Snow
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If the ace map had been Judgement day SKT1 would be crying tonight
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On July 20 2010 21:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:12 Highways wrote:On July 20 2010 21:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 20 2010 21:04 EpiK wrote:On July 20 2010 21:02 disciple wrote: CJ fans must admit they are lacking the ace player of Bisu's caliber. KT would've sent Flash, OZ would've sent Jaedong, regardless the map. CJ had to be "cute" and smart and play a protoss, because it was a protoss map. Our sidemen fucking sucked in the whole series but no other team has 2 S-class players, that just go out there and win the ace. you serious? who beat flash in the Korean Air OSL finals? Zerglings! :o Effort is a zergling! Nah, zerglings are way prettier than that. yeah, just look at harem and aers!
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No excuses but I would be curious to find out what the result would of been if they sent out IRIS instead of BBYONG
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On July 20 2010 21:14 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote: Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.
Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other. also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy. Maybe fantasy was not expected. But saying that CJ would send out someone for ACE have them not practiced a build for both fantasy or bisu would be retarded. Of course his build was well prepared.
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On July 20 2010 21:14 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:13 Subversive wrote: Sigh at people saying he expected Fantasy. He probably actually thought it would be Bisu and figured that Snow had trained to take down the Dragon. Snow came close, well played game. Most SKT1 fans had their hands on their mouths and were doing the bisu face for about half of the match. But ultimately the better protoss won. Today. Tomorrow? Who knows.
Now stop fighting fans. It's a game. 2 great teams took it down to the wire. Have respect for each other. also, to anyone saying he expected fantasy. His build was way too well thought out to possibly have prepared only for fantasy.
Either way, saying Coach Cho thought that effort couldn't beat bisu is a hilarious conclusion. Plus, of course Snow wasnt gonna prepare nothing but PvT edit: ups shatter was faster
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I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.
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On July 20 2010 21:15 SuperArc wrote: If the ace map had been Judgement day SKT1 would be crying tonight
If your aunt had nuts, she would be your uncle.
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On July 20 2010 21:13 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:06 Tuke wrote:On July 20 2010 21:05 Subversive wrote: Wow so much 'Effort is great' stuff coming from CJ fans. Yes he's great. Did the coach think he could beat Bisu on this map? No.
Hence, SKT1 are the winners. Period. EffOrt definitely could beat Bisu. Polaris Rhapsody is 10-13 in favor of protoss so it isn't that bad Oh you missed the game where Horang2 beat Effort in a straight up game on Polaris? I think Bisu can do better than that.
Yeah seriously. Effort is not Jaedong and isn't a instant victory against protoss. He'll win the vast majority of the time but he's not "lol instant win". He's lost again and again pretty badly against Stats and as pointed out even against Horang2 who is awful against zerg.
Sending Effort to fight Bisu is risky especially with a bad map. You're playing against the best PvZer ever seriously on a fairly "bad" ZvP map.
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On July 20 2010 21:16 Subversive wrote:I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though.
ok that makes more sense, I was really confused and surprised there about the 19-4
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On July 20 2010 21:15 Spyfire242 wrote: No excuses but I would be curious to find out what the result would of been if they sent out IRIS instead of BBYONG I think the result would've been the same. You could tell Canata was really confident that game, and he's desperate to get out of his slump. Except for wasting a few units with that mass vulture push in the beginning, his gameplay was flawless.
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On July 20 2010 21:17 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 21:16 Subversive wrote:I get 15-8. Or 65%. Still a beastly record though. ok that makes more sense, I was really confused and surprised there about the 19-4
19-4 is including the preliminaries for OSL/MSL.
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Ah, lol. You counted the prelims games too, that's why
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