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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#5861
Ohhh man, I go to sleep after game 2 assuming Effort was gonna get 3-0ed. Then I watch the vods. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
GANDHISAUCE
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 22 2010 17:30 GMT
#5862
I am glad Flash lost, and i hope that Dong will give him some trouble too.His domination is obvious,but hes human after all, who needs to lose sometimes as well.Pro scene becomes even more interesting with results from today's final.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
May 22 2010 17:32 GMT
#5863
Fell asleep hopin' that Effort would pull through. Woke up and I was like
Wannabe zerg player
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 17:48:26
May 22 2010 17:33 GMT
#5864
Poll: Which one is more epic

Efforts reverse all-kill vs. Flash today (41)
 
79%

Skyhighs revers all-kill vs. OZ in the winners league finals (11)
 
21%

52 total votes

Your vote: Which one is more epic

(Vote): Efforts reverse all-kill vs. Flash today
(Vote): Skyhighs revers all-kill vs. OZ in the winners league finals

"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 22 2010 17:33 GMT
#5865
Before reading the LR, let me say... YES! I FCUKING LIQUIBETTED EFFORT! I KNEW IT!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
May 22 2010 17:33 GMT
#5866
Flash fanboys are so blind.

Why is every argument from you guys "...But its Flash so he deserved to win"

The person who wins deserves to win.

Like someone said in the page before, (nba reference) the Cavaliers may have been the best team in the regular season. They may have even been 11 games up on the Celtics. But you can't rationally think that the Celtics deserved to lose because they are the "worse team". You can't say The Cavaliers should have won because "its LeBron."

Effort played a great series and to say anything otherwise is to take away an accomplishment from a player who obviously prepared very well and knew exactly how to react to everything Flash could throw at him.

No one is saying that Flash isn't a great player. There is no doubt in my mind that even if he loses to Jaedong he is still currently the best SCBW player in the world. But to take that fact and then use it as evidence as to why Effort didn't deserve to win is just foolish.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash just played terribly in the last 3 games and because of that, Effort got lucky. Who is to blame for Flash playing poorly? There is no power outage this time, and game 1 regame was in Flash's favor so there is no argument there. The only person who can be blamed is Flash. Effort took advantage of poor decision making and rode it to a 3-2 victory.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash got "gayed" because the last 3 games didn't go into late game. Whose fault is that? As stated previously, Flash moved out at an inopportune time in game 3 causing him to lose. Flash's fault.
In game 4, he wanted to proxy 2 rax. Is that a decision someone who wanted to get into the late game makes? In game 5 he 14CCs, a build Flash is notorious for losing with and then did not have a solid back up plan providing Effort did any agression.

To the fanboys who claim Effort didn't deserve to win because his builds were all-in. If you see a 14CC that can be broken, how is it his fault for exploiting that? When Flash immediately places down a bunker after seeing Protoss do a 12Nex and he scouts it quickly, is that all-in cheese?
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
May 22 2010 17:34 GMT
#5867
On May 22 2010 22:00 RandomAbuse wrote:
Now if only Bayern wins.....

fingers crossed
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 22 2010 17:39 GMT
#5868
Flash's TvZ is below 70% and his ELO is below 2400 now.

Where is your god now, KT fans?
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
May 22 2010 17:39 GMT
#5869
On May 23 2010 02:33 shurgen wrote:
Flash fanboys are so blind.

Why is every argument from you guys "...But its Flash so he deserved to win"

The person who wins deserves to win.

Like someone said in the page before, (nba reference) the Cavaliers may have been the best team in the regular season. They may have even been 11 games up on the Celtics. But you can't rationally think that the Celtics deserved to lose because they are the "worse team". You can't say The Cavaliers should have won because "its LeBron."

Effort played a great series and to say anything otherwise is to take away an accomplishment from a player who obviously prepared very well and knew exactly how to react to everything Flash could throw at him.

No one is saying that Flash isn't a great player. There is no doubt in my mind that even if he loses to Jaedong he is still currently the best SCBW player in the world. But to take that fact and then use it as evidence as to why Effort didn't deserve to win is just foolish.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash just played terribly in the last 3 games and because of that, Effort got lucky. Who is to blame for Flash playing poorly? There is no power outage this time, and game 1 regame was in Flash's favor so there is no argument there. The only person who can be blamed is Flash. Effort took advantage of poor decision making and rode it to a 3-2 victory.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash got "gayed" because the last 3 games didn't go into late game. Whose fault is that? As stated previously, Flash moved out at an inopportune time in game 3 causing him to lose. Flash's fault.
In game 4, he wanted to proxy 2 rax. Is that a decision someone who wanted to get into the late game makes? In game 5 he 14CCs, a build Flash is notorious for losing with and then did not have a solid back up plan providing Effort did any agression.

To the fanboys who claim Effort didn't deserve to win because his builds were all-in. If you see a 14CC that can be broken, how is it his fault for exploiting that? When Flash immediately places down a bunker after seeing Protoss do a 12Nex and he scouts it quickly, is that all-in cheese?

well said
Who let the dogs out?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 22 2010 17:40 GMT
#5870
On May 23 2010 02:39 dukethegold wrote:
Flash's TvZ is below 70% and his ELO is below 2400 now.

Where is your god now, KT fans?

im not a flash/KT fan, but don't you want those things to happen for the good of starcraft? i like watching greatness develop, in every sport. kobe, federer, tiger, flash...
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
May 22 2010 17:40 GMT
#5871
I predicted effort would win 3-2 but i wanted liquibet points so i voted flash

i am disappoint
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 22 2010 17:42 GMT
#5872
darn.
Writer
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
May 22 2010 17:45 GMT
#5873
The zergling-lurker surround in Game 4 to win the game was epic!
I am the Town Medic.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
May 22 2010 17:50 GMT
#5874
Hmm if Jaedong takes the MSL too (which I hope he does) this season wont be so great for Flash... I wonder how the PR would turn out then.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
May 22 2010 17:52 GMT
#5875
Copy/paste from youtube coments

If Flash loses the reasons are:
1)He threw it away.
2)He just didn't give a shit.
3)There is a governmental conspiracy against him.

If Flash wins the reasons are:
1) Because Flash is a God and blah blah.

Some Flash fans are seriously fucked up

SO hard to admit het got his ass kicked huh guys?
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines1038 Posts
May 22 2010 17:55 GMT
#5876
WHAT THE FUCK

I FELL ASLEEP FLASH BEING UP 2-0 AND WAKE UP EXPECTING 3-0 OR 3-1 AND LEARNED HE GETS 3-0'D THE LAST 3 GAMES?! IS THIS SOME SORT OF SICK JOKE TL?

if this is true, i KNEW effort had what it takes =)
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
usa11220
Profile Joined April 2010
United States38 Posts
May 22 2010 17:58 GMT
#5877
please someone post or pm me a link to the vods!!!!! im dying to watch these games. how can i do so?
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
May 22 2010 17:59 GMT
#5878
On May 23 2010 02:33 shurgen wrote:
Flash fanboys are so blind.

Why is every argument from you guys "...But its Flash so he deserved to win"

The person who wins deserves to win.

Like someone said in the page before, (nba reference) the Cavaliers may have been the best team in the regular season. They may have even been 11 games up on the Celtics. But you can't rationally think that the Celtics deserved to lose because they are the "worse team". You can't say The Cavaliers should have won because "its LeBron."

Effort played a great series and to say anything otherwise is to take away an accomplishment from a player who obviously prepared very well and knew exactly how to react to everything Flash could throw at him.

No one is saying that Flash isn't a great player. There is no doubt in my mind that even if he loses to Jaedong he is still currently the best SCBW player in the world. But to take that fact and then use it as evidence as to why Effort didn't deserve to win is just foolish.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash just played terribly in the last 3 games and because of that, Effort got lucky. Who is to blame for Flash playing poorly? There is no power outage this time, and game 1 regame was in Flash's favor so there is no argument there. The only person who can be blamed is Flash. Effort took advantage of poor decision making and rode it to a 3-2 victory.

To the fanboys who claim that Flash got "gayed" because the last 3 games didn't go into late game. Whose fault is that? As stated previously, Flash moved out at an inopportune time in game 3 causing him to lose. Flash's fault.
In game 4, he wanted to proxy 2 rax. Is that a decision someone who wanted to get into the late game makes? In game 5 he 14CCs, a build Flash is notorious for losing with and then did not have a solid back up plan providing Effort did any agression.

To the fanboys who claim Effort didn't deserve to win because his builds were all-in. If you see a 14CC that can be broken, how is it his fault for exploiting that? When Flash immediately places down a bunker after seeing Protoss do a 12Nex and he scouts it quickly, is that all-in cheese?



Words of wisdom right here.


"deserving" is a meaningless word. The only thing that matters is getting your opponent to lose 3 times. That's it, that's all.


Flash deserving this "more" is completely garbage.
We decide our own destiny
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 22 2010 18:00 GMT
#5879
i called this btw
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 22 2010 18:01 GMT
#5880
Everyone just had high expectations of Flash and are disappointed. I understand wanting the underdog to win being a Sparkyz fan but seeing Flash's recent performance was amazing to watch so as an SC fan wanted there to be this perfect player.

Flash is of course not perfect and losing in a bo5 makes that more than clear. It really doesn't matter how he lost, he lost. Still rooting for Flash, very disappointed he didn't get his golden mouse, but oh well. He might make himself feel better by denying Jaedong his golden badge. Win or losing hoping Flash brings brings an even better game to the finals vs Jaedong.
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