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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 10:15:50
May 17 2010 10:15 GMT
#221
Instead of pushing across that bridge with the 2 dozen tanks waiting, he should have just recalled Baby's main. take out supply depos and force the cc to lift for a while.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 10:17:19
May 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#222
I have no idea why Bisu charge his whole force into Baby's massive tank line in the mid-game... when he could've just done a push break AFTER Baby moves out while he macros up more bases...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
May 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#223
I really liked Baby's style that game. His Dropship was not only effective but necessary - it harassed Bisu's 4th and delayed his 5th. Nowadays when all players macro and micro so well, something like that makes all the difference. Especially with best possible TvP positions on FS.

Hopefully more Terrans (especially Flash) can incorporate stable, effective Dropship usage into TvP.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#224
SKT-1 needs to hire Reach once he gets out of the Airforce. Maybe he can slap some sense into Bisu/Best and get them back on track. And Reach PvT > Bisu PvT right now anyway
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
May 17 2010 10:18 GMT
#225
I'm giving up as a Bisu fan. He has gone the way of savior...
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
May 17 2010 10:18 GMT
#226
Protoss worst day is...everyday.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 17 2010 10:18 GMT
#227
On May 17 2010 19:14 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 19:10 PoP wrote:
Bisu makes way, way, way too many mistakes these days.

The stasis on the front units was extremely retarded and probably cost him the game.


I noticed that, he was so eager to get those stasises off. One of the biggest things I notice about how Flash plays is how patient he is. I guess there's no need to win if you're sure you're going to win the game eventually.

Considering the only reliable way to win PvT is to absorb the Terran's attacks until he mines out, patience is pretty important. (True in all match-ups, of course, but most flagrantly so in PvT.)
My strategy is to fork people.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 17 2010 10:20 GMT
#228
Shine vs Canata
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
May 17 2010 10:20 GMT
#229
I can't remember a programer who statises the back units.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#230
This game almost has to suck. Neither player is known for exciting SC
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
May 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#231
Canata? Rare sight now a days.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
May 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#232
They are teasing boxer :<
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 10:24:23
May 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#233
The part about stasis'ing the front tanks, I can't really blame Bisu for that, because there were sci vessels guarding the T army right there. Trying to get the back tanks is just asking to get EMP'd so getting any tanks is better than getting nothing. . He definitely should've waited until Baby moved PAST the bridge though, so he can attack with a much larger arc.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 17 2010 10:24 GMT
#234
On May 17 2010 19:23 teamsolid wrote:
The part about stasis'ing the back tanks, I can't really blame Bisu for that, because there were sci vessels guarding the T army right there. Trying to get the back tanks is just asking to get EMP'd. He definitely should've waited until Baby moved PAST the bridge though, so he can attack with a much larger arc.


Ye, if he can't stasis the back tanks he shouldn't attack. In fact, he might have been better off attacking without stasis at all as he confused his own zealots and created a nice funnel
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
May 17 2010 10:25 GMT
#235
Listen all wannabe bisu fans. KTY sucks nowadays, live with it - dont be retarded surrender monkeys and support your idol in his darkest hours. You are making me look bad
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 10:25:40
May 17 2010 10:25 GMT
#236
On May 17 2010 19:23 teamsolid wrote:
The part about stasis'ing the back tanks, I can't really blame Bisu for that, because there were sci vessels guarding the T army right there. Trying to get the back tanks is just asking to get EMP'd. He definitely should've waited until Baby moved PAST the bridge though, so he can attack with a much larger arc.


Yeah, when I play PvT I sometimes fall into that trap of "throw out the stasis before it's too late". But when you think about it, it's better to approach the back line then just back off and don't attack if you get EMP'd. Especially in a situation like that when Terran is no where near your base.
No I'm never serious.
Subwoofermate
Profile Joined May 2010
293 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 10:25:40
May 17 2010 10:25 GMT
#237
what the hell is this shit canata this is just awful.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 17 2010 10:25 GMT
#238
/facepalm
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 17 2010 10:27 GMT
#239
wtf failture

only 2 kills what the fuck
POGGERS
Subwoofermate
Profile Joined May 2010
293 Posts
May 17 2010 10:27 GMT
#240
this is such a dumb game. all we're seeing is shine chasing a vulture around with drones.
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