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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
May 13 2010 22:24 GMT
#61
WOW! "redemption" picture thingy is awesome!!
and.. I hope effort wins.. and i hate kal..

+ Show Spoiler +
effort will 3 : 2 kal
Entusman #51
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
May 13 2010 22:35 GMT
#62
i'd rather kal win, but only because he has the better chance of beating flash. somehow though, i think effort might just take it because his ZvP is just so good.

either way, i hope they dont get 3:0'd by flash
boomer hands
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 13 2010 22:37 GMT
#63
Kal's gonna 3-0 Flash in the finals I don't get why people are so delusional lol.
TranslatorBaa!
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 13 2010 22:38 GMT
#64
When did Kal ever have "legendary" PvZ? Never? It's been "pretty good" at best, considering he could never beat a zerg on the bigger stages.

Effort will fall behind 2-1 then halfway through set 4 after losing his tech tree to a dt drop covered by a fleet of sairs, he'll ask for a pause and complain about his mouse again.
... Knowmsayin'?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#65
On May 14 2010 07:38 InTheFade wrote:
When did Kal ever have "legendary" PvZ? Never? It's been "pretty good" at best, considering he could never beat a zerg on the bigger stages.


It was 70%, that's pretty damn good. He had the best PvZ out of all the Dragons.
TranslatorBaa!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 13 2010 23:04 GMT
#66
Kal will do some DIRRRRRRRRRRRRTY work with his shuttles! To be honest Kal SHOULD have the best PvZ environment to train. He have Calm/July/Hero to practice with. All of them are exceptional ZvPers. Effort on the other hand have Movie to train with and Savior for advices (we all know how savior was at ZvP). So when it comes down, this WILL be epic!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 13 2010 23:14 GMT
#67
On May 14 2010 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:38 InTheFade wrote:
When did Kal ever have "legendary" PvZ? Never? It's been "pretty good" at best, considering he could never beat a zerg on the bigger stages.


It was 70%, that's pretty damn good. He had the best PvZ out of all the Dragons.

He has been awfully good against zerg, just because he has struggled against Jaedong doesn't mean that he can't PvZ.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 13 2010 23:25 GMT
#68
Guys if you take away his games vs Jaedong, he is actually 69% against Zerg.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 23:28:36
May 13 2010 23:26 GMT
#69
On May 14 2010 07:38 InTheFade wrote:
When did Kal ever have "legendary" PvZ? Never? It's been "pretty good" at best, considering he could never beat a zerg on the bigger stages.

Effort will fall behind 2-1 then halfway through set 4 after losing his tech tree to a dt drop covered by a fleet of sairs, he'll ask for a pause and complain about his mouse again.

Alright, legendary is a quite strong and subjective term, its mostly just there for effect. Kal never defeated a big zerg on bigger stages, and he didnt play that much PvZ during the earlier stages of his career, so the stats might be a bit deceptive if you insist. Still, Kal did indeed have the best results vs Z out of all the dragons around the time of their dominance.
Regardless, legendary or not, statistically PvZ was simply his best matchup, while now its his weakest, and many say that its holding him back from advancing further. (and getting defeated by JD in a semifinal and a final are enough examples already) In that sense, he does have to "rediscover" his PvZ, get it up to par at least with his other matchups. That's what i was trying to hint at when writing that sentence, and using the Redemption tagline in the first place.

On May 14 2010 08:25 Xiphos wrote:
Guys if you take away his games vs Jaedong, he is actually 69% against Zerg.

lol, a nice piece of statistics! I knew he's like 3-13 against JD, I just never realized you can look at it like that. I think it proves the point of a lot of us in this thread.
BW fighting!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 13 2010 23:37 GMT
#70
Hmmm, Jaedong wants Kal to win... that way Flash has to split his time between practicing TvP and TvZ...
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ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
May 13 2010 23:48 GMT
#71
effort's going to throw the games, kal 3-0

SPIRIT OF MA JAE YOON!
Kal Fighting!
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 23:57:46
May 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#72
I think Flash playing Kal would be worse for Jaedong. Flash hasn't played a high-level TvZ in a while (last TvZ I remember was him curbstomping Soulkey 10 bases to 3), so we don't know if Flash is still playing the same style. Without more recent games of Flash TvZ I don't think JD will be as willing to use a build like 3-hatch before pool.

On the other hand, Flash has already prepared for 2 bo5s vs toss recently and it looks like his most dominating matchup right now. Plus he didn't even have to play all the games in those series so he probably still has some strategies he hasn't revealed yet.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 14 2010 00:10 GMT
#73
Kal 3-1, he has one of the best and consistent PvZ's around..:D
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 00:14:37
May 14 2010 00:14 GMT
#74
man i really really really really want to watch this live, but 5:30 am is just too fucking late

i really fucking envy west cost starcraft fans in times like these.

Kal 3-2 IMO, only because eye of the storm is pretty bad for P (otherwise I'd say 3-1)
Free Palestine
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 00:40:12
May 14 2010 00:23 GMT
#75
On May 14 2010 09:14 Ideas wrote:
man i really really really really want to watch this live, but 5:30 am is just too fucking late

i really fucking envy west cost starcraft fans in times like these.

Kal 3-2 IMO, only because eye of the storm is pretty bad for P (otherwise I'd say 3-1)


Dude, I've watched almost every single game for the past year (And all STX games minus Calm-Great) and I've been in New York =3

This will be a part of Kal's historic OSL run, you better stay up and watch it as an STX fan! =(
TranslatorBaa!
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
May 14 2010 01:14 GMT
#76
Meh, rooting for Kal. I like him more, and it's better if Flash saves all his TvZ for Jaedong the week after.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 14 2010 01:17 GMT
#77
the next CJ to get stomped by Flash..
Skyhigh will win the next OSL though!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 14 2010 01:23 GMT
#78
gogogo effort, show them you godlike ZvP
BW is back
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 14 2010 01:29 GMT
#79
On May 14 2010 08:48 ItsBigfoot wrote:
effort's going to throw the games, kal 3-0

SPIRIT OF MA JAE YOON!
these jokes are so fucking lame.

and effort will trounce the shit out of the smugtoss.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
May 14 2010 01:45 GMT
#80
Hoping EffOrt thinking Kal!
Not that I like EffOrt/ I hate Kal, its just that EffOrt getting into the Semifinals would be nice for once. Cuz we all want to see FlaSh's TvZ streaks in action again. Pure and Free should show that Kal has no chance.
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