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[SPL] MBCGame HERO vs STX SouL - Page 24

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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 06:51:11
May 12 2010 06:48 GMT
#461
On May 12 2010 15:42 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 15:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 12 2010 15:39 Ryo wrote:
On May 12 2010 15:36 moopie wrote:
On May 12 2010 15:35 Ryo wrote:
4th loss in a row because the MBC coaches insist on playing scrubs.



They need to deepen their lineup, that's why. This isn't WL, you can't survive with 2 players. Lesser players need on-stage experience.


We're talking ace matches here. You don't mess with the ace match selection if you're in danger of not qualifying for the play-offs.

There's always dream league to give the scrubs practice but then what does he do with dream league? He puts A-teamers like Saint and Pusan on the May roster.


Third place isn't in danger of not qualifying.



You have to compare the win-loss ratio to the teams ranked 3rd-8th. It's very close. Only STX and KT are almost guaranteed spots in the playoffs.

yeah. With the way Sea is playing its not that far off that they fall out of the Top 6. Wemade, CJ and Woongjin are playing really really well right now and T1 is just waiting for Bisu to stop sucking. Oh, and they are just +2 wins from the 6th place. so yeah.
Woo Jung Ho
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 12 2010 06:51 GMT
#462
+ Show Spoiler [rankings] +
1 KT Rolster 31-10
2 STX Soul 29-13
3 MBCGame HERO 23-18
4 WeMade FOX 22-20
4 SK Telecom T1 22-20
5 Woongjin Stars 21-20
7 CJ Entus 20-21
7 Hwaseung OZ 20-21
9 eSTRO 19-22
10 Samsung KHAN 19-23
11 hite SPARKYZ 17-24
12 Air Force ACE 5-36

even eSTRO and KHAN can still qualify imho.
stx and kt are sure in, and hite and ace are sure out.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8105 Posts
May 12 2010 06:55 GMT
#463
i really hate how they do playoffs in PL. seeding 1st and 2nd place so high up is so fucking stupid :\
Free Palestine
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 12 2010 06:56 GMT
#464
The thing about losing so many matches in a row is that once you get into a rut, it gets harder and harder to regain any sort of momentum. Plus it's just bad for team morale. Is it 4 or 5 loses in a row for MBC now? Players who are pulling their weight and winning matches will eventually start to get unsettled as well.

When you're on a winning streak you can afford to throw a couple of games by sending in scrubs to give them exposure but not when you're on this long a losing streak.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 12 2010 07:02 GMT
#465
On May 12 2010 15:56 Ryo wrote:
Is it 4 or 5 loses in a row for MBC now?


5.

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 3-2
hite 3-2
CJ 3-0
weMade - 3-0
STX - 3-2
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 12 2010 07:46 GMT
#466
Peace? WTF?

Sometimes I think certain teams are deliberately trying to lose.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 12 2010 08:50 GMT
#467
Another ace win for STX, they really need to stop depending on ace wins.

No wonder they never go far in PL playoffs.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
May 12 2010 11:25 GMT
#468
On May 12 2010 12:35 snowdrift86 wrote:
Results.
(T)Sea < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Shuttle
(T)Light < Roadrunner > (T)Last
(Z)Saint < Fighting Spirit > (P)Kal
(Z)HyuN < Grand Line > (T)FrOzen
(Z)Peace < Judgment Day > (Z)Calm

MBCGame HERO 2 - 3 STX SouL

That's right. STX will not be stopped. And they'll play Bogus, Last or Frozen as many times as they want, thank you very much.

FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
May 12 2010 11:57 GMT
#469
I'm a bit sad that Kal wasn't sent as Ace (for FL) since he his their #1 player but still. GJ from Calm
Cya in PL final STX
n_n
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 12 2010 12:24 GMT
#470
lol kespa site saying MBC won 3-2
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 12 2010 12:44 GMT
#471
On May 12 2010 20:25 Caos2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 12:35 snowdrift86 wrote:
Results.
(T)Sea < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Shuttle
(T)Light < Roadrunner > (T)Last
(Z)Saint < Fighting Spirit > (P)Kal
(Z)HyuN < Grand Line > (T)FrOzen
(Z)Peace < Judgment Day > (Z)Calm

MBCGame HERO 2 - 3 STX SouL

That's right. STX will not be stopped. And they'll play Bogus, Last or Frozen as many times as they want, thank you very much.




Easy when MBC sends out Peace...
but really... Sea or Ligt??? Or some1?? Do they have to practice for individual leagues or what??
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 12 2010 13:24 GMT
#472
wow lol, STX seems very comfortable winning every ace match and sending out their scrubs
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 12 2010 13:39 GMT
#473
On May 12 2010 21:44 Kuzmorgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 20:25 Caos2 wrote:
On May 12 2010 12:35 snowdrift86 wrote:
Results.
(T)Sea < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Shuttle
(T)Light < Roadrunner > (T)Last
(Z)Saint < Fighting Spirit > (P)Kal
(Z)HyuN < Grand Line > (T)FrOzen
(Z)Peace < Judgment Day > (Z)Calm

MBCGame HERO 2 - 3 STX SouL

That's right. STX will not be stopped. And they'll play Bogus, Last or Frozen as many times as they want, thank you very much.




Easy when MBC sends out Peace...
but really... Sea or Ligt??? Or some1?? Do they have to practice for individual leagues or what??


They probably expected Kal
Hi.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 14:10:39
May 12 2010 14:08 GMT
#474
On May 12 2010 15:17 Musoeun wrote:
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On May 12 2010 15:15 flamewheel91 wrote:
LOL PEACE PEACE PEACE.

Seriously Coach Ha, what are you smoking when you make Ace decisions?
It's like hi we're going to play IrOn (okay that one was okay since he was expecting to snipe Flash)
And then Jaehoon failzors?

And now Peace?
Dude if you just sent Sea Calm would fail ZvT and you wouldn't have a 2-5 about to be 2-6 record this season...


I have more faith in Calm's ZvT than Sea's TvZ lately (hi Chavi).



Sea and Light is one of the best TvZ progamers, teams have been making sure they don't get matched up against a zerg.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 12 2010 15:26 GMT
#475
wow sea. fuck you :/
i've lost all faith

on the other hand.. wtf HERO??
cw)minsean(ru
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 12 2010 16:18 GMT
#476
ahahaha just realized calm vs peace acematch
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 20:22:03
May 12 2010 20:21 GMT
#477
On May 12 2010 21:44 Kuzmorgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 20:25 Caos2 wrote:
On May 12 2010 12:35 snowdrift86 wrote:
Results.
(T)Sea < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Shuttle
(T)Light < Roadrunner > (T)Last
(Z)Saint < Fighting Spirit > (P)Kal
(Z)HyuN < Grand Line > (T)FrOzen
(Z)Peace < Judgment Day > (Z)Calm

MBCGame HERO 2 - 3 STX SouL

That's right. STX will not be stopped. And they'll play Bogus, Last or Frozen as many times as they want, thank you very much.




Easy when MBC sends out Peace...
but really... Sea or Ligt??? Or some1?? Do they have to practice for individual leagues or what??

Neither of them are in individual leagues now.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
May 12 2010 20:36 GMT
#478
MBC have been sucking since Hyungjoon's show ended.... coincidence??
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 12 2010 21:00 GMT
#479
On May 13 2010 05:36 amazingoopah wrote:
MBC have been sucking since Hyungjoon's show ended.... coincidence??


Not entirely true. Only Sea has been doing poorly. Light, although not at the same level as his WL form, is still doing better than last season and Hyun is playing better than he did during WL.

Some of their losses stem from the coaches deciding to field Iron/Jaehoon/Peace as ace.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
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