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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs eSTRO
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disciple
9070 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +Game 3 and 4 were good Game 5 had some hilarious moments so better check that out as well How To Watch: http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor | ||
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years
Costa Rica216 Posts
This SPL season is so inconsistent i dont know anything anymore. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On May 10 2010 22:39 SilverSkyLark wrote: Why an early thread for a T1 Estro PL match? Hey hey don't hate, he gave us a good picture. Also disciple is a Bisu fanboy, so yeah... | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Nothing will make my day better than a 3-0 with Bisu, Best and fantasy delivering. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
That is good :D now my ideal situation would be 3-2 SKT with Best and Fantasy (x2) winning and Hyvaa and some other, I guess Really, winning | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On May 10 2010 22:38 years wrote: Well this was early. I guess this will be a match oh which coach can out smart the other. Will the SKT zergs tear through an unsuspecting estro lineup? Will estro throw their own wildcards? This SPL season is so inconsistent i dont know anything anymore. Yup, predictions are so hard to make what with all the teams below rank 3 and above ACE being so close. I just hope for good games. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On May 10 2010 23:56 nayumi wrote: Looking forward to Best to rape shits once again ... Nothing will make my day better than a 3-0 with Bisu, Best and fantasy delivering. Agreed. I love both the play of fantasy and bisu (of old). Creative and fun, then to have best just dish out the punishment is gives me some sort of BDSM thrills. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I guess for the better team. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On May 10 2010 22:43 flamewheel91 wrote: Hey hey don't hate, he gave us a good picture. Also disciple is a Bisu fanboy, so yeah... wasn't hating..  I'd expect this for a T1 - KT match or something but meh, T1 got this 3-0Bisu Fantasy Hyuk | ||
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
Fantasy>Hyvaa Best>Really Bisu>Gosi[Flying] We win 3-0 easy | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:57 SilverSkyLark wrote: wasn't hating.. I'd expect this for a T1 - KT match or something but meh, T1 got this 3-0Bisu Fantasy Hyuk I was banned by that time | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On May 11 2010 07:08 Housemd wrote: As always, i will be providing my faildictions Fantasy>Hyvaa Best>Really Bisu>Gosi[Flying] We win 3-0 easy Hey hey I coined the faildiction term  | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Flying > some poor zerg Really > Best | ||
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Jiffymix
United States43 Posts
On May 11 2010 08:36 KizZBG wrote: Flying > some poor zerg Arbiters gogogo! | ||
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renzy
Canada781 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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Storm[PT]
120 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
 Really > fantasy Action < Hyuk Flying > Bisuhyvaa > BeSteSTRO 3-1 ezpz get ready for a tvt fest on the first match | ||
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
Sorry, mate...Fixed | ||
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marcoso
Brazil818 Posts
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
On May 11 2010 08:36 KizZBG wrote: Action > Fantasy Flying > some poor zerg Really > Best This. Action will win with hive tech. Flying will win with Arbiters. Really will win with Medics. Sexy~ | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On May 11 2010 13:16 marcoso wrote: bisu vs really and fanta vs action could be awesome For sure. BeSt vs. Action would be cool too. | ||
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years
Costa Rica216 Posts
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
I love Action, but his ZvP needs a lot of work. | ||
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 11 2010 13:16 marcoso wrote: bisu vs really and fanta vs action could be awesome Considering Fantasy's TvZ and Bisus slump both of these games could be one sided rapes. | ||
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On May 11 2010 10:46 Xiphos wrote: I want to see Bisu beating a Zerg by outmultitasking him. I don't know why I am cheering for him but it feels bad seeing Bisu go like this. That would make me SO happy. With Bisu, he is being so greedy in the early game, and makes not enough units or gets his 3rd too quickly. I haven't seen his late game management in so long, but if he gets to late game he is so good because of his multitask~ | ||
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Neptuneajax
Australia206 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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LightAngels
United States299 Posts
( it's about time and no one make it ( | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On May 11 2010 17:32 Kentor wrote: i'll be watching and streaming http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor Thank you! | ||
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treeoo
Australia73 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
hyvaa @ 5s2 @ 2 | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Mutalisks out now for s2, picking off some overlords | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Only 5 drones mining mins for hyvaa, and he's getting an evo chamber and a spore. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
After a lot of dancing s2 kills the enemy mutas and still has a few of his own leftover. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
s2 has more mutas and more drones, so he should win this unless he screws up somehow. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Both players playing very defensively right now--s2 knows he has an advantage and is using it to secure a better economy, while hyvaa knows he has an inferior army and so has to camp by his spore colony. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
s2 spent a lot of money on that expansion and some more drones, he might not have enough! Oh no, hyvaa down to just 1 very low life mutalisk and has to retreat--s2 holds, and will probably win from here now that he has 2 gas and more drones. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
s2 has way more mutas and scourge though--I can't see this working. Oh wait, it's an offensive spore colony, lol awesome. Unfortunately for hyvaa it gets taken out while his mutas are being chased by scourge. | ||
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Jejune
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SuperXlax
United States197 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
s2 now just fights the spore in the main, kills it, and kills the mutas. hyvaa types out, gg. | ||
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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cabarkapa
United States1011 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:17 writer22816 wrote: What is up with T1 zergs doing quite good nowadays. Eh, s2 had build order advantage, so as long as he held, he would win eventually | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
Hyuk | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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GeLaar
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GTR
51451 Posts
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
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9I3bI4HuK
Russian Federation41 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Really GGs. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Jejune
29 Posts
Yes! | ||
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
SKT Zergs for the win! | ||
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CKSide
United States223 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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koleen
Netherlands97 Posts
My mind just got blown :o | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
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QibingZero
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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TC02
Canada29 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:42 Garnet wrote: Is Bisu on the bench? Ya I don't think I saw bisu on the skt bench | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
He is, sitting next to Fantasy. | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:55 teamsolid wrote: ROFL, Canata built a rax at his nat instead of CC by mistake It's the idra build (he did it to fake) | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:55 teamsolid wrote: ROFL, Canata built a rax at his nat instead of CC by mistake You mean he FAKED a CC. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
Canata is not that clever | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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9I3bI4HuK
Russian Federation41 Posts
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9I3bI4HuK
Russian Federation41 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
That was almost as amusing as today's Hyuk. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Dream_`BoxeR`
United States29 Posts
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9I3bI4HuK
Russian Federation41 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
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Dream_`BoxeR`
United States29 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Canata has been playing really good since the early screwups Actually that's true, its just that there should be no way for Action to lose after that opening. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Dream_`BoxeR`
United States29 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
wow, just wow, i thought the world would only end in 2012... | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Canata has been playing really good since the early screwups yeah, but action's muta micro (or lack of it) helped him as well | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
Though that's a ton of vessels... haha | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
Actionnn The difference between his sloppy midgame with that terrible muta micro and his late game is stunning. | ||
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
Tanks now out for Canata. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
Action has laid some sick plague and canata just a-moves into lurkers | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
great play by action | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:04 Garnet wrote: Action's defilers = GG | ||
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CKSide
United States223 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:17 endy wrote: Skt zergs on fire ! Actions not on skt. Unless you were talking about the other two games... | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
did he do that brain cirurgy again? | ||
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:18 nath wrote: what the fuck, how does really lose vs hyuk? i thought hyuk was only good at ZvZ...granted really is best at tvt and tvp but STILL....really? Really played badly but Hyuk actually played pretty well. Some really nice mutalisk micro funnily enough. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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GTR
51451 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:23 teamsolid wrote: Is Action the only Z that skips ultras and mutas completely in favor of spamming more defilers + lings/hydra vs T? Seems pretty effective with proper control just abusing swarm + plague with all that extra gas and 1 shotting plagued vessels.. his hive tech management imo is the best out of the current zergs not named jaedong | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
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Neptuneajax
Australia206 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
BeSt @ 1Flying @ 7 | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:28 Neptuneajax wrote: man Best looks so different...did he have surgery or get bitten by a Bee or something? Yeah I was just thinking that. It looks like he had some plastic surgery or something. Or maybe he's just wearing a lot of makeup. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:28 Neptuneajax wrote: man Best looks so different...did he have surgery or get bitten by a Bee or something? he is just not as nerdy without the glasses | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/data/file/gallery/1964308273_33091897_P09060400228129.jpg) | ||
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:27 teamsolid wrote: Yea that's for sure, but even JD usually goes for ultras once he has enough bases. I've never seen Action ever build a single cow in any of his ZvTs. I'm pretty sure he made ultras vs go.go. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Best gets his gas noticeably earlier than Flying. Best manner pylons and traps 5 probes! Flying micros and frees 3 of them. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Actually, Flying adds up to FOUR gateways! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Best pulling probes to defend, Flying backs off a little. Lots of reinforcement streaming in for Flying, but Best has a sizeable force himself. Really nice micro from Flying to not get his goon AI caught on the drilling probes. Reaver out for Best in a nice position! Best losing a TON of probes to these goon. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
No, Flying devotes more to killing it, and takes it down but at the cost of a few more goons than it would have otherwise cost him. Best looks like he's going to hold now. | ||
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Shuttle unloads 2 DTs on the perimeter and a reaver in the main that shoots and kills a TON of probes! Flying pushing in for a huge fight, AMAZING stork on the goons. Flying has lost ALL of his probes in his main--this is completely allin now. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Best's 3rd goes down, Flying will take this match to ace | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Storm kills all the probes in the nat! | ||
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CKSide
United States223 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Neptuneajax
Australia206 Posts
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QibingZero
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Best trying to re-expand to his 3rd, but Flying is pushing again! | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Flying with 2 cannons in his main. Cannons fight off teh shuttle, which goes to the nat and drops 1 zealot and 1 DT before it dies. Zealot gets taken out immediately. DT kills 1 HT before it dies. Not very good at all for the investment. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Flying takes out 4 probes with a high-ground storm at the 3rd. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:43 Jackal03 wrote: if flying win this game, i hope action is sent for ace It would be the smartest choice -- with SKT Zergs now pulling their weight there's too much of a risk for Really as ace. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Flying now with a slow shuttle in the nat! Dropping 2 HT with a ton of potential for mayhem . . . but it only gets 2 probes. Nice micro by best. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Best GGs. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
flying hwaiting! | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Hoping for Bisu in Ace | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Dream_`BoxeR`
United States29 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:45 snowdrift86 wrote: It would be the smartest choice -- with SKT Zergs now pulling their weight there's too much of a risk for Really as ace. Well, Fantasy still hasn't played, and Action's ZvT stats aren't very pretty. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Action would be insta-loss against fantasy and Really would lose to zergs... | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:47 QuothTheRaven wrote: Well, Fantasy still hasn't played, and Action's ZvT stats aren't very pretty. Both Fantasy and Action are right around 48% in the matchup. =P | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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cabarkapa
United States1011 Posts
fantasy for SKT | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:49 SuperArc wrote: Action would be insta-loss against fantasy Uhmmmm, have you ever seen Fantasy play TvZ? | ||
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:49 QibingZero wrote: Both Fantasy and Action are right around 48% in the matchup. =P Oh lol that's true. How could I forget how absolutely terrible Fantasy is at TvZ. I think I was blinded by my desire to see an epic Really vs. Fantasy TvT. | ||
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:50 Holgerius wrote: Uhmmmm, have you ever seen Fantasy play TvZ? yeah, but fantasy with his early game shenanigans against a nervous early/middle game action? | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:50 KizZBG wrote: I'd send Flying since he's pretty good in all matchups. fantasy is the P destroyer, sending flying would be only feeding | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
Go Action! | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:52 Wohmfg wrote: Today is a good day for FPL! Go Action! if action wins, it will be 9 points for me | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:54 Garnet wrote: lol I have Action AND Fantasy in FPL. GG. to you, it's best that fantasy win (so he gets a streak break point) | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:54 Garnet wrote: lol I have Action AND Fantasy in FPL. GG. I just have Best, oh well. Was hoping that they might have sent Boxer out after going 2-0 up | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
because if this happens... | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:56 Jackal03 wrote: to you, it's best that fantasy win (so he gets a streak break point) Oh and I have SKT too so of course cheering for Fantasy. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:00 Jackal03 wrote: i just hope fantasy lets action lives until the late game... because if this happens... Unless Fantasy has a huge mech army off the easily taken 3bases in Judgement Day | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
Go Action! | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:01 QuothTheRaven wrote: Unless Fantasy has a huge mech army off the easily taken 3bases in Judgement Day hell yeah, lets hope we have a long and fun TvZ | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
fantasy @ 5Action @ 1 | ||
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
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QibingZero
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Hungary3932 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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QibingZero
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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moopie
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:02 Jackal03 wrote: hell yeah, lets hope we have a long and fun TvZ Alas, it was not meant to be. 4pool incoming. Vs forward 8rax?! | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
balls man, real balls | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
vs 2 rax LOL | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
SCV BLOCKS THE CHOKE WHILE MARINES SHOOT THE LINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
except fanta held it off | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
Action isn't even going to attempt to recover, all in lings. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Walled off Fantasy's builds are always sick GG SKT wins | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:04 anch wrote: wow, oov vs july dejavu its déjà vu mang | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:04 samachking wrote: lol Walled off Fantasy's builds are always sick GG SKT wins No offense, but you've got to stop with the preemptive GGs | ||
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moopie
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On May 11 2010 20:05 snowdrift86 wrote: No offense, but you've got to stop with the preemptive GGs Really? 3 drones vs a BBS behind a wall? Fantasy is not that stupid, a C terran has this won in this position | ||
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On May 11 2010 20:06 samachking wrote: Really? 3 drones vs a BBS behind a wall? Fantasy is not that stupid, a C terran has this won in this position LOL? | ||
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On May 11 2010 20:06 samachking wrote: Really? 3 drones vs a BBS behind a wall? Fantasy is not that stupid, a C terran has this won in this position You were saying? | ||
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samachking
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On May 11 2010 20:06 samachking wrote: Really? 3 drones vs a BBS behind a wall? Fantasy is not that stupid, a C terran has this won in this position NVM LOLOLOL FUCK WHAT AN IDIOT WHO MOVES OUT BEFORE MMF VS A 4POOL .l.asfdhkdsklhdfssa | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:06 samachking wrote: Really? 3 drones vs a BBS behind a wall? Fantasy is not that stupid, a C terran has this won in this position LOL See what I'm saying? | ||
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Poland12466 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:06 Itachii wrote: nice job with hiding rines from fanta, he almost fell for it LOL OOOVVVVVV | ||
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GTR
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GIF THAT SHIT NOW | ||
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anch
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oov gives "WTF ARE YOU DOING" look | ||
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What the fuck seriously? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Oov is so gonna rape fantasy at home, he almost threw the win away | ||
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
ahhh at least we got the win | ||
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United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:09 Lazerbeems wrote: Biggest BO advantage you can get and you nearly, very nearly throw the game away. I don't think it was a BBS--just an 8rax at choke. He threw down the 2nd rax to wall when he saw the super early drone scout, which tipped him off to an early pool build. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:08 samachking wrote: Fantasy is the dumbest progamer ever.... What the fuck seriously? Indeed. How the fuck do you move out at this point. Mindboggling. | ||
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Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:10 QuothTheRaven wrote: I don't think it was a BBS--just an 8rax at choke. He threw down the 2nd rax to wall when he saw the super early drone scout, which tipped him off to an early pool build. thats nonsense, that drone scout timing implies normal zerg build | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:09 moopie wrote: lol fantasy, i dont think you should be happy after that win He can laugh now, and so can we. :D | ||
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Vatican City State101 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:10 QuothTheRaven wrote: I don't think it was a BBS--just an 8rax at choke. He threw down the 2nd rax to wall when he saw the super early drone scout, which tipped him off to an early pool build. It was a BSB. Don't know drone timings, so I cant tell the difference between a 9 drone and a 4pool 5th drone. | ||
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QibingZero
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
i only managed to see hwanni look super worried lmfao | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:13 alffla wrote: did anyone catch a screenshot of oov raging cuz i missed that hahah i only managed to see hwanni look super worried lmfao wasn't that guy they were showing kos? | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
Fantasy daily MVP? Oh goodness... | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:10 ret wrote: thats nonsense, that drone scout timing implies normal zerg build I know it's pretty normal to send a drone scout, but is a 9drone scout timing equal to sending the 4th drone after a 4pool? (I don't know--haven't tested myself, but it seemed like a pretty early scout). I'd wager that it was definitely earlier than sending the 12 drone scout when you 12hatch. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:14 Jackal03 wrote: whats the oov vs july game? does anyone have the vod? Probably referring to this one http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1034_iloveoov_vs_July/vod | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:10 Monsen wrote: Indeed. How the fuck do you move out at this point. Mindboggling. He just explained it in the interview. He figured that it was a 5-pool, and that after it failed, the opponent would be busy pumping drones. | ||
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United States1055 Posts
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Hungary11291 Posts
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
Anyone got a screen of oov? | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:17 Aesop wrote: I hate to say it, but that oov-rage should make a decent pic-meme. Yes please :D I want to summon it every time Fantasy plays from now on. As an animated GIF, preferably. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:14 QuothTheRaven wrote: I know it's pretty normal to send a drone scout, but is a 9drone scout timing equal to sending the 4th drone after a 4pool? (I don't know--haven't tested myself, but it seemed like a pretty early scout). I'd wager that it was definitely earlier than sending the 12 drone scout when you 12hatch. I'd wager that ret probably knows his timings better than the rest of us. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
Wtf at Fantasy winning a TvZ tho...I really really hate his TvZ. Also, wtf no Bisu? | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:17 moopie wrote: I'd wager that ret probably knows his timings better than the rest of us. I sometimes 9 scout when I 12 hatch, especially when I suspect mech, there's nothing about the drone that would tip fantasy off. | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:17 moopie wrote: I'd wager that ret probably knows his timings better than the rest of us. That's probably a pretty safe wager Anyways I'm just curious. It seemed like Fantasy threw down the 2nd rax immediately to wallin when he saw the drone scout, but I suppose it could have been a coincidence that the drone scout arrived right as Fantasy's prepared build called for the 2nd rax. | ||
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fly.stat
United States449 Posts
Game was hilarious. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:14 Jackal03 wrote: whats the oov vs july game? does anyone have the vod? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1001_iloveoov_vs_July/vod i was thinking of this, even tho its complete different BOs. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
It's hard to express my disappointment at eSTRO's lack of prep for this match. All 5 games were just bad, even the ones that were won on the strength of Action's late game and Flying's all-in. | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On May 11 2010 20:20 QuothTheRaven wrote: That's probably a pretty safe wager Anyways I'm just curious. It seemed like Fantasy threw down the 2nd rax immediately to wallin when he saw the drone scout, but I suppose it could have been a coincidence that the drone scout arrived right as Fantasy's prepared build called for the 2nd rax. 2 rax wallin is a super common build on that map. | ||
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dongfeng
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
much appreciated. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:47 Xxio wrote: I want to see an interview about why SKT zerg is doing well so suddenly.. My theory is that the SK coaching staff got so disgusted with Bisu and Best they decided to focus all their coaching energies on the zerg line-up instead. | ||
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iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
On May 11 2010 21:12 dongfeng wrote: wats the website where vods are up ultra early? i gotta watch game 5 lol sounds epic pretty sure you're thinking of http://www.wfbrood.com/ | ||
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Tekin
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![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/mmtrtw.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2ia653c.jpg) and Finally the face palm ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/fm016u.jpg) | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On May 11 2010 22:33 Tekin wrote: http://i42.tinypic.com/mmtrtw.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2ia653c.jpg Add a face palm picture and you have Fantasy TvZ. Fantasy is so bad at TvZ shit is hilarious. He takes a huge lead and then bombs it almost on purpose | ||
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On May 11 2010 22:33 Tekin wrote: and Finally the face palm Well what other reaction can u expect from the guy who has the longest TvZ streak in history Oov cannot even comprehend the stupidity that is Fantasy... it's like making a math genius tutor your local druggie dropout | ||
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qrs
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On May 11 2010 23:10 Wings wrote: Well what other reaction can u expect from the guy who has the longest TvZ streak in history Oov cannot even comprehend the stupidity that is Fantasy... it's like making a math genius tutor your local druggie dropout Nice screencaps, Tekin. @ everyone bashing on Fantasy's TvZ: granted, it hasn't been looking good lately, but seriously, a little respect for the guy who (temporarily) revolutionized that match-up a year ago, not to mention won PL for his team by beating Jaedong in a TvZ, and came darn close to winning a Bo5 to take the OSL against that same Jaedong, who, in case you hadn't heard, has been known to play a decent game himself, from time to time. I'm not a Fantasy fan at all; in fact, he is one of the few players that I tend to root against, but respect his skills, even if he is in a bit of a slump these days.Besides, considering that he won the game, you theory-crafters will have a pretty hard time making the case that moving out was an objectively bad move. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:46 qrs wrote: Besides, considering that he won the game, you theory-crafters will have a pretty hard time making the case that moving out was an objectively bad move. So any time someone wins a game, every action they made was good? That's pretty retarded and I think you know it. | ||
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XIII
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On May 11 2010 23:46 qrs wrote: Nice screencaps, Tekin. @ everyone bashing on Fantasy's TvZ: granted, it hasn't been looking good lately, but seriously, a little respect for the guy who (temporarily) revolutionized that match-up a year ago, not to mention won PL for his team by beating Jaedong in a TvZ, and came darn close to winning a Bo5 to take the OSL against that same Jaedong, who, in case you hadn't heard, has been known to play a decent game himself, from time to time. I'm not a Fantasy fan at all; in fact, he is one of the few players that I tend to root against, but respect his skills, even if he is in a bit of a slump these days.Besides, considering that he won the game, you theory-crafters will have a pretty hard time making the case that moving out was an objectively bad move. i think you give fantasy to much credit for things oov (metal tvz, valks) or boxer (pl final strat vs jd) thought up | ||
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konadora
Singapore66162 Posts
Fuck yeah. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66162 Posts
FANTASY FTW | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:55 okum wrote: So any time someone wins a game, every action they made was good? That's pretty retarded and I think you know it. Let me put it this way: after Fantasy moved out, did Action have a chance to win the game, or even drag it out? If not, then on what basis do you call it a bad move? If yes, then why didn't Action win the game? Did he also make a mistake? What more could he have done? He executed pretty well on the ling surround and he got into the main and I didn't see any horrible micro mistakes on Action's part: it still wasn't enough for him to win. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:40 qrs wrote: Let me put it this way: after Fantasy moved out, did Action have a chance to win the game, or even drag it out? If not, then on what basis do you call it a bad move? If yes, then why didn't Action win the game? Did he also make a mistake? What more could he have done? He executed pretty well on the ling surround and he got into the main and I didn't see any horrible micro mistakes on Action's part: it still wasn't enough for him to win. Did you even watch the game? With three mining drones, Action would have had zero chance to win if fantasy had just macroed up behind his wall, secured his front, and pushed at a timing of his own choosing. The way it turned out, fantasy barely survived the ling all-in. A split second's worth of firebat mismicro and the outcome would've been different. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
My point is that fantasy's fate was in his hands the whole time, even after he moved out. It's not fair to blame a player for strategical stupidity if he chooses to rely on his micro and doesn't mismicro. The proof of the pudding is in the eating: his decision was fine. | ||
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iamahydralisk
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
I wonder what will happen in the SK team house tonight. oov taking fantasy to a ride on his bus maybe? | ||
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BreakerD
United States159 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:56 qrs wrote: We know that Action had 3 drones because we saw his base. Fantasy didn't know that. Had Action droned up instead, moving out would definitely have been the quickest way to end the game and prevent any chance of Action's coming back into it. Even if Action were going all in (which he was), Fantasy knew that with firebats, medics, SCVs and micro, he could hold it off. My point is that fantasy's fate was in his hands the whole time, even after he moved out. It's not fair to blame a player for strategical stupidity if he chooses to rely on his micro and doesn't mismicro. The proof of the pudding is in the eating: his decision was fine. Fantasy didnt make a bad decision either, who would've thought action would've done another all in rush with the zerglings. Even when he put down his second rax because he knew a early rush was coming it wasnt luck from his part. IMO fantasy expected action to build a couple of sukens to prolong the game. Had fantasy macro and expanded I think it would've been gg for him. This game is just like baxter and really(???) during msl or osl where baxter ling rushed and failed and went for another ling rush and won against the terran player who was exanding to his natural catching him off guard. No one really said much to the terran player. Plus i think oov was stressed because fantasy didnt go repair his rax which was a bad play from fantasy | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 12 2010 00:27 konadora wrote: fantasy won a TvZ in ace match. Fuck yeah. u gotta watch the game first lmao | ||
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konadora
Singapore66162 Posts
lol just watched it, fantasy's action was understandable though. he saw only 6 lings, so he might have thought Action was going some one-base play or something. Action played well here by hiding his lings, and Fantasy was a bit too greedy and overly daring for pushing out without medics and/or bats, which would have been a sure-win situation. Other than that, it played out "normally", if you know what I mean (no that was not a joke at Fantasy's terrible (?) TvZ). Besides, Action went 4 pool because he knew Fantasy would pull out something weird again, but alas, great SCV block and choice by Fantasy to go BSB. | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
Nice SCV wall but he has to play safer - he isn't Flash to be that cocky about his skill. | ||
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SturmAddict
Malaysia176 Posts
1) Move out and attack zerg 2) Camp for medics, then push Now lets go on the foreigners mindset, play as safe as possible. get a medic and push. There was two things the zerg could have done 1) it might have been a 5/6 pool and he droned up 2) he kept on building zerglings Because fantasy didnt know which one is it, idd say 50:50 for either of this to happen. So foreigners mindset = play safe. get medics and push In situation one 50%, the zerg would scout it, place sunkens, and macro up. he will quite a few drones and wont really mind putting down sunkens. Terran is in an advantage, but he still have a 5-10% chance to lose. Sav*** vs Fbh was one of the games where rush--> macro could get someone into the game. and no. neither is C So chances of terran losing is 0.5*0.75 =~3.75% chance to lose #Recall, he didnt know if its a 4 or 5 or 6 pool cuz he has no scouting scv In situation two, zerg massed lings. Unless he gets a large flank on an attack, the zerg will lose Chances of terran losing = 0.00001%~ So chances of losing with foreigner play = 3.75% + 0.00001% ~ 3.75% chance to lose Now lets take the korean players view What if 1) happened. There is no bloody way the zerg could have had enough lings to defend against rines from 2 rax. Insta-win. The timing was s.t there was no way the zerg has his nat up AND enough drones to get sunkens in his nat. He might be forced to sunk his main, but that would do nothing against rines. Chances of losing = 0.00001% what if 2) happened. Zerg mass lings with 3 drones mining. It will annihilate the rines (which is the only way not to die to it), but all Fantasy had to do was pull back to the choke with medics and firebats, block with SCV's, and win as stim+range is finishing which will be the doom to zerg. There is no bloody way the terran can lose this. Unless he lost both his barracks =< but Fantasy clearly was waiting for a second firebat before lifting. Then his 20 scv economy kicks in versus 3 drones. Chances of losing = 0.00001% plus fans are happy, commentators can scream on, and he can get revenge on his coach. ezpz Chances of losing with the korean mind set = 0.00001+0.000001% ~ 0% 0% losing chance is better then a 1%+ losing chance | ||
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On_Slaught
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Ryo
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On May 12 2010 02:23 SturmAddict wrote: Firstly we have two things you can do 1) Move out and attack zerg 2) Camp for medics, then push Now lets go on the foreigners mindset, play as safe as possible. get a medic and push. There was two things the zerg could have done 1) it might have been a 5/6 pool and he droned up 2) he kept on building zerglings Because fantasy didnt know which one is it, idd say 50:50 for either of this to happen. So foreigners mindset = play safe. get medics and push In situation one 50%, the zerg would scout it, place sunkens, and macro up. he will quite a few drones and wont really mind putting down sunkens. Terran is in an advantage, but he still have a 5-10% chance to lose. Sav*** vs Fbh was one of the games where rush--> macro could get someone into the game. and no. neither is C So chances of terran losing is 0.5*0.75 =~3.75% chance to lose #Recall, he didnt know if its a 4 or 5 or 6 pool cuz he has no scouting scv In situation two, zerg massed lings. Unless he gets a large flank on an attack, the zerg will lose Chances of terran losing = 0.00001%~ So chances of losing with foreigner play = 3.75% + 0.00001% ~ 3.75% chance to lose Now lets take the korean players view What if 1) happened. There is no bloody way the zerg could have had enough lings to defend against rines from 2 rax. Insta-win. The timing was s.t there was no way the zerg has his nat up AND enough drones to get sunkens in his nat. He might be forced to sunk his main, but that would do nothing against rines. Chances of losing = 0.00001% what if 2) happened. Zerg mass lings with 3 drones mining. It will annihilate the rines (which is the only way not to die to it), but all Fantasy had to do was pull back to the choke with medics and firebats, block with SCV's, and win as stim+range is finishing which will be the doom to zerg. There is no bloody way the terran can lose this. Unless he lost both his barracks =< but Fantasy clearly was waiting for a second firebat before lifting. Then his 20 scv economy kicks in versus 3 drones. Chances of losing = 0.00001% plus fans are happy, commentators can scream on, and he can get revenge on his coach. ezpz Chances of losing with the korean mind set = 0.00001+0.000001% ~ 0% 0% losing chance is better then a 1%+ losing chance I suppose that makes Oov a foreigner who knows less than you. lol | ||
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SturmAddict
Malaysia176 Posts
It was how late fantasy pulled SCV's and lifted his rax. Fantasy made sure the choke was guarded with his 2 medics and firebats to make bloody sure the second firebat comes out which will do so much for him. The game was over when fantasy had firebats and medics. All in all, it was excellent play on fantasy's behalf, making a very deep decision which probably most foreigners and old-school korean players will never understand. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
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United States4903 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:30 Heimatloser wrote: estro just runs out of power. rank 4 after round 1, rank 6, then rank 7 after winnersleague, and now only khan,hite and ace are worse I'm gonna sound biased but I don't really think they're 'running out of power'. They've been doing quite well without Upmagic and Sangho. All of their losses except one were in ace match, so kinda unlucky too lol. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 12 2010 04:56 KizZBG wrote: I'm gonna sound biased but I don't really think they're 'running out of power'. They've been doing quite well without Upmagic and Sangho. All of their losses except one were in ace match, so kinda unlucky too lol. Really has been VERY dissapointing. If he just won the games he is supposed to, estro would be in a MUCH better spot. | ||
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United States70 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On May 11 2010 23:46 qrs wrote: Nice screencaps, Tekin. @ everyone bashing on Fantasy's TvZ: granted, it hasn't been looking good lately, but seriously, a little respect for the guy who (temporarily) revolutionized that match-up a year ago, not to mention won PL for his team by beating Jaedong in a TvZ, and came darn close to winning a Bo5 to take the OSL against that same Jaedong, who, in case you hadn't heard, has been known to play a decent game himself, from time to time. I'm not a Fantasy fan at all; in fact, he is one of the few players that I tend to root against, but respect his skills, even if he is in a bit of a slump these days.Besides, considering that he won the game, you theory-crafters will have a pretty hard time making the case that moving out was an objectively bad move. No offense but I hope you're joking. Fantasy's TvZ is under 50%. UNDER 50%. This from a 'supposed' S-Class terran?? Yeah he was gaining attention last year for "revolutionizing" the matchup, but he has burned out so badly, you can't help but wonder if all that was actually his COACHES doing the work (OoV) and him just following orders... there's not many other explanations why he could suddenly be failing this badly. I've always been a Fantasy-doubter from the beginning (in TvZ, I know he's strong at TvP), I just suspect that he really sucks vs Zerg except his coaches' clever builds helps him occasionally win games. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On May 12 2010 04:31 Rkie wrote: wow fantasy actually did something smart unlike when he played calm last OSL... You kidding me? He almost lost the game by making the stupidest error of moving out. Why the hell would you move out in that situation? Jesus christ, not even a D- would have moved out against nonstop 4 pool lings. | ||
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United States43 Posts
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SturmAddict
Malaysia176 Posts
He moved out because it was a 100% win-win situation for him Remember, 1) he doesnt know if its a 4/5/6 pool 2) he doesnt have a scout in his opponents main 5/6 pool into macro has time and time again made a zerg come back into the game because the lack of punishment... i recall games from Savior vs FBH and July vs some guy i forgot lol. Remember! fantasy has 2 raxes that means his income isnt pimp neither. Either way, if the zerg 4/5 pool-->macro, he would die 100% of the time to that push since its from 2 rax and has quite a large numbers of marines in it On the other hand, if the zerg made enough lings to destroy the push, all he have to do is wait for a round of firebats, bring his raxes in and wallaw. instant victory with 20 scv versus 4-5 drones. No matter what happens, fantasy will win 100% of the time. The only way fantasy can lose is 1) he loses his rax AND 2) he doesnt block the choke AND he doesnt have enough money to build a proxy factory. ALL are within his skill and micro level to execute. ALL didnt happen. Therefore he won. and played again, he would have win 100% of the time. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On May 12 2010 04:05 Ryo wrote: I suppose that makes Oov a foreigner who knows less than you. lol When your a coach its ace match and your team hasn't been doing that great lately... Well i kinda think you would want your guys to play safe XD | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:17 SturmAddict wrote: Its nice when people dont read. He moved out because it was a 100% win-win situation for him Remember, 1) he doesnt know if its a 4/5/6 pool 2) he doesnt have a scout in his opponents main 5/6 pool into macro has time and time again made a zerg come back into the game because the lack of punishment... i recall games from Savior vs FBH and July vs some guy i forgot lol. Remember! fantasy has 2 raxes that means his income isnt pimp neither. Either way, if the zerg 4/5 pool-->macro, he would die 100% of the time to that push since its from 2 rax and has quite a large numbers of marines in it On the other hand, if the zerg made enough lings to destroy the push, all he have to do is wait for a round of firebats, bring his raxes in and wallaw. instant victory with 20 scv versus 4-5 drones. No matter what happens, fantasy will win 100% of the time. The only way fantasy can lose is 1) he loses his rax AND 2) he doesnt block the choke AND he doesnt have enough money to build a proxy factory. ALL are within his skill and micro level to execute. ALL didnt happen. Therefore he won. and played again, he would have win 100% of the time. Oov was raging and facepalming and his understanding of TvZ is greater than yours so quit theorycrafting. Fantasy came very close to throwing this game from an unbeatable position. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
I'm not sure why Action pulled a 4pool... maybe his coaching staff told him to (remember JD vs fantasy where JD pulled a 4pool, failed initially, but then broke fanta's bunker and won?). Still, Action has a good enough ZvT (and fantasy's TvZ isn't spectacular) to win it playing "standard" for estro. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
and Oov's reaction is priceless, I think he has the long matchup record if I'm not mistaken? 27-0 TvZ, Boxer only had something like 13-0 TvZ, and another record is Best's 15(?)-0 PvP (broken by Stork during the Batoo OSL Semi's)... | ||
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~ava
Canada378 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:17 SturmAddict wrote: On the other hand, if the zerg made enough lings to destroy the push, all he have to do is wait for a round of firebats, bring his raxes in and wallaw. Do you mean voila by any chance? I lol'd hard. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On May 12 2010 20:23 SilverSkyLark wrote: Action should have played standard, his tvz is actually good, oh well.. and Oov's reaction is priceless, I think he has the long matchup record if I'm not mistaken? 27-0 TvZ, Boxer only had something like 13-0 TvZ, and another record is Best's 15(?)-0 PvP (broken by Stork during the Batoo OSL Semi's)... didnt flash have some 17-18 game win streaks in tvt and tvz simultaneously during the first part of this season? | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On May 12 2010 22:08 Black Gun wrote: didnt flash have some 17-18 game win streaks in tvt and tvz simultaneously during the first part of this season? according to tlpd His TvT streak is 12-0 and oh what do we have here, his TvZ streak is 12-0 too.. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On May 12 2010 23:46 SilverSkyLark wrote: according to tlpd His TvT streak is 12-0 and oh what do we have here, his TvZ streak is 12-0 too.. mr smartass? losses in stx masters and stuff like that doesnt really count. or his selfnuke against savior. in "official" matches his streaks were much longer. edit: if i counted correctly his streak in tvz was 19 games when excluding his selfnuke, and 22 games in kespasanctioned tvts, and 15 wins in "official" tvts. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
poor bisu isnt being playedbummer. good job skzergs .. never thought i'd say that | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 13 2010 02:29 Sadistx wrote: ahhahaha holy shit thats sos weet thanks | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
On May 13 2010 02:29 Sadistx wrote: epic... he even seems to be saying 'oh come on' | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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TheMunkey
Canada470 Posts
hahah such an awesome reaction. | ||
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TheTeamLiquidTiger
United States627 Posts
priceless | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 13 2010 07:29 TheMunkey wrote: I think he called fantasy stupid. hahah such an awesome reaction. I think you're right, looks like he said "what?... stupid" in Korean LOL | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 13 2010 06:40 okum wrote: Haha, just noticed, Pocari Sweat sponsoring SKT too? too? to my knowledge they don't officially sponsor anyone else. | ||
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