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InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#501
Lomo and JD having a lot of winner's interviews together lately. Good to see, Oz slightly more functional these days. Slightly.
... Knowmsayin'?
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#502
On May 05 2010 15:21 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I imagine Fantasy Oov and Boxer come up with these really clever builds and then they demolish the SKT Zergs and go "Boy that's awesome I'll use that one on Jaedong." and then they realize Jaedong isn't an SKT zerg after the match.


What did Jaedong do here tho? Just go hydras and attack. Fantasy's mines were supposed to scout, and he failed to put one where he could see Jaedong moving out. Fail.


Well, Jaedong did trigger that mine on purpose.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#503
Why is no one else mentioning that Fantasy used the exact same build against (Z)Calm and lost in the exact same way?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#504
On May 05 2010 15:18 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:17 Divine[aX] wrote:
A rather odd build attempted by Fantasy.

I think the vultures/mines were supposed to prevent early hydra attack? Should have been np given that since Fantasy sniped the OLs Jaedong had no detection.

Only one problem: for whatever reason Fantasy only planted one mine on the path to his base, and then just suicided all his vults into hydra.

such poor execution


This.

This is 100% the critical factor there imo.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#505
On May 05 2010 15:21 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I imagine Fantasy Oov and Boxer come up with these really clever builds and then they demolish the SKT Zergs and go "Boy that's awesome I'll use that one on Jaedong." and then they realize Jaedong isn't an SKT zerg after the match.


What did Jaedong do here tho? Just go hydras and attack. Fantasy's mines were supposed to scout, and he failed to put one where he could see Jaedong moving out. Fail.


Exactly, if he had better scouting his bunker would have been up way earlier instead of having to pull scvs to block ramp to buy time for it, which led to the epic mine explosion.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:26:02
May 05 2010 06:23 GMT
#506
On May 05 2010 15:21 Count9 wrote:
Yeah, game 5 should definitely be recommended; it's like watching 2 trains collide, it's horrific but somewhat exciting.


It's like watching two trains start moving on a collision course, except that one train is missing the last half of its track.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 05 2010 06:24 GMT
#507
On May 05 2010 15:22 Gumbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:21 PoP wrote:
On May 05 2010 15:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I imagine Fantasy Oov and Boxer come up with these really clever builds and then they demolish the SKT Zergs and go "Boy that's awesome I'll use that one on Jaedong." and then they realize Jaedong isn't an SKT zerg after the match.


What did Jaedong do here tho? Just go hydras and attack. Fantasy's mines were supposed to scout, and he failed to put one where he could see Jaedong moving out. Fail.


Well, Jaedong did trigger that mine on purpose.


Hm, yeah. That's not related to my point though.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
May 05 2010 06:24 GMT
#508
On May 05 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 15      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:20 Inkblood wrote:
That was a pretty epic mine.

Overlord snipes didn't do him much good in the end, even if they were well executed in themselves.


Yeah, at least the first snipe gave away his whole build with the flying rax, JD didn't even have to worry 2 seconds about bio. 2nd was great though, but maybe he should use those apm for something different, like building units and stuff
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
May 05 2010 06:24 GMT
#509
when I wake up tomorrow I want to see a gif of JD's celebration.
Who let the dogs out?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
May 05 2010 06:24 GMT
#510
On May 05 2010 15:22 motbob wrote:
Why is no one else mentioning that Fantasy used the exact same build against (Z)Calm and lost in the exact same way?

I did, maybe cuz not many people watched it. Although to be fair, Fantasy did snipe ovies so JD couldn't read form that highway. But he didn't plant mines correctly ><
Jaedong
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
May 05 2010 06:25 GMT
#511
awful play by (T)fantasy
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 05 2010 06:25 GMT
#512
On May 05 2010 15:23 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:21 Count9 wrote:
Yeah, game 5 should definitely be recommended; it's like watching 2 trains collide, it's horrific but somewhat exciting.


It's like watching two trains start moving on a collision course, except that one train is missing the last half of its track.

It's more like one train flying down a track at about 70 mph, and the other train on a seperate track that ends directly in front of the grand canyon traveling at 100 mph.
... Knowmsayin'?
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
May 05 2010 06:25 GMT
#513
JD gosu
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:28:23
May 05 2010 06:26 GMT
#514
On May 05 2010 15:22 motbob wrote:
Why is no one else mentioning that Fantasy used the exact same build against (Z)Calm and lost in the exact same way?


EDIT:
On May 05 2010 15:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Well, I thought after the game against Calm on Fighting Spirit, Fantasy wouldn't lose to this again. But guess not, GO Jaedong! ^__^


On May 05 2010 15:16 tree.hugger wrote:
Mines should've done better than they did. Fanta tried that build against Calm, and Calm put together a neat little overlord highway (In one of the newsposts, if you remember) and rolled him. But this time fantasty sniped two overlords, but didn't get good mines down.

And got rolled.


I'm so wise.

But he lost in a different way; the first time, Calm made a neat little move and took advantage. In this game, fantasy deliberately tried to prevent that by overlord sniping. But he couldn't hold together the other end of the bargain.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 05 2010 06:26 GMT
#515
Even if that mine didn't take the ramp I don't think Fantasy could of won. Did you see how many hydras were streaming towards his base? There was a lottt off 3 hatch.

We need a gif/SS of the mine AND JDs ceremony after the game please.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
May 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#516
On May 05 2010 15:24 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 15:22 Gumbo wrote:
On May 05 2010 15:21 PoP wrote:
On May 05 2010 15:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I imagine Fantasy Oov and Boxer come up with these really clever builds and then they demolish the SKT Zergs and go "Boy that's awesome I'll use that one on Jaedong." and then they realize Jaedong isn't an SKT zerg after the match.


What did Jaedong do here tho? Just go hydras and attack. Fantasy's mines were supposed to scout, and he failed to put one where he could see Jaedong moving out. Fail.


Well, Jaedong did trigger that mine on purpose.


Hm, yeah. That's not related to my point though.


The way you said it just made it look like Fantasy simply committed suicided and Jaedong just watched
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
lixlix
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:29:09
May 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#517
lifting rax to kill overlord also lead to very low rine count and thus dependent on purely mines to hold jaedong off. very dangeroud build imo as jaedong could just diffuse with a few lings.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:28:51
May 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#518
On May 05 2010 15:26 On_Slaught wrote:
Even if that mine didn't take the ramp I don't think Fantasy could of won. Did you see how many hydras were streaming towards his base? There was a lottt off 3 hatch.

We need a gif/SS of the mine AND JDs ceremony after the game please.

Agreed, somebody get on that~

On May 05 2010 15:22 InTheFade wrote:
Lomo and JD having a lot of winner's interviews together lately. Good to see, Oz slightly more functional these days. Slightly.

Homo for Lomo.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
May 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#519
Wait was that a rush to SV?
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
May 05 2010 06:29 GMT
#520
HAHAHA, oh dear god Fantasy what is wrong with you and your TvZ
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