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Gtks
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece135 Posts
April 29 2010 20:09 GMT
#1241
I really do belive that Flash wanted to show us something new. All his moves were correct and all his attacts were succefull mvp din't seemed to serius threat him most of the time, it was a risc to buld so large number of Battlecruisers but it seemed to me Mvp couldn't outplay Fash other way. In the end it seemed to me that mvp dint hade the economy to repair his battlecrouisers yet flash find the carage to rebuild and to gain control of the map using only goliaths in the end mvp can't match him trust me.
Thessaloniki - Greece
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 29 2010 20:35 GMT
#1242
has MVP vacationed in thailand recently????
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 29 2010 20:36 GMT
#1243
On April 30 2010 05:08 anch wrote:
game 4 was sickshit also, just watched it on wfbrood.
I dont get the tvz map imba forum talk, but JD was beastly macroing with the double gas base.


The Imba talks come from the fact that it took a double gas base to equal the playing field :p
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
April 29 2010 20:57 GMT
#1244
On April 30 2010 04:01 lone_hydra wrote:
Jaedong beat terran mech which in my opinion, is so mch easier than standard marine play. I will believe he gets his mojo back when I see him beating medic and marine. Even hyvaa can pull of a mech win, and he was against Flash.

Also, hahaha, Flash must be pissed that MVP beat his ass. Now poor baby will be the punching bag for Flash tonight. Hiya is too ugly for semi's, no magikarps allowed. Kill his ass free.

Lately, the MnM to mass tank tech switch has been one of the most effective strategies in TvZ. Until today's game, it seemed nearly impossible to beat a terran who gets a bunch of expansions and starts turtling with mass tanks.

Have you even seen the game? It took some of the most amazing multitasking, perfect tech switches, and an absolutely unrelenting offense on all fronts to break Midas' defense.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
April 29 2010 20:58 GMT
#1245
Reading these live reports are so misleading.


Jaedong was never "in trouble" and Midas never "had this game".


The only Jaedong expo that ever got destroyed was 1 oclock, which didn't even count as an expo with zero drones mining.


Good game nonetheless.
We decide our own destiny
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:59:51
April 29 2010 20:59 GMT
#1246
On April 30 2010 05:36 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 05:08 anch wrote:
game 4 was sickshit also, just watched it on wfbrood.
I dont get the tvz map imba forum talk, but JD was beastly macroing with the double gas base.


The Imba talks come from the fact that it took a double gas base to equal the playing field :p

The imba talk comes from the fact that Jaedong played some of the most amazing ZvT in a long time against a fairly standard TvZ, and the game still ended up being fairly close.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 29 2010 21:02 GMT
#1247
UHM UPSETS GALORE?
cw)minsean(ru
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
April 29 2010 21:06 GMT
#1248
On April 30 2010 05:58 Tien wrote:
Reading these live reports are so misleading.


Jaedong was never "in trouble" and Midas never "had this game".


The only Jaedong expo that ever got destroyed was 1 oclock, which didn't even count as an expo with zero drones mining.


Good game nonetheless.


Yes they were. Jaedong could have lost the game at the very beginning when passed Midas' army with his lings and went at his natural to harass. Meanwhile Midas had his marine group parked infront of Jaedong's base where only 2 sunken colonies and almost no zerglings were protecting. If Midas had saw that, the game would have ended there.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
April 29 2010 21:29 GMT
#1249
On April 29 2010 17:59 Plexa wrote:
Flash > MVP
free > Hiya
great > Calm
Midas > Jaedong

gogogo!


+ Show Spoiler +

i love how the results were the exact opposite XD
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 29 2010 22:09 GMT
#1250
I love how you see Midas and JD smiling after that game.

You can tell they had a blast playing that game and can't wait to play the rest of the games.

So cute.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
April 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#1251
On April 30 2010 05:58 Tien wrote:
Reading these live reports are so misleading.


Jaedong was never "in trouble" and Midas never "had this game".


The only Jaedong expo that ever got destroyed was 1 oclock, which didn't even count as an expo with zero drones mining.


Good game nonetheless.

5 base terran going mech vs a 5 base terran going lurker ling, jd was fine amirite?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
April 29 2010 22:27 GMT
#1252
On April 30 2010 05:57 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 04:01 lone_hydra wrote:
Jaedong beat terran mech which in my opinion, is so mch easier than standard marine play. I will believe he gets his mojo back when I see him beating medic and marine. Even hyvaa can pull of a mech win, and he was against Flash.

Also, hahaha, Flash must be pissed that MVP beat his ass. Now poor baby will be the punching bag for Flash tonight. Hiya is too ugly for semi's, no magikarps allowed. Kill his ass free.

Lately, the MnM to mass tank tech switch has been one of the most effective strategies in TvZ. Until today's game, it seemed nearly impossible to beat a terran who gets a bunch of expansions and starts turtling with mass tanks.

Have you even seen the game? It took some of the most amazing multitasking, perfect tech switches, and an absolutely unrelenting offense on all fronts to break Midas' defense.


Personally the unit composition that follows that mech switch is atrocious, at least in that game. Too many vultures and no goliaths early on. After JD got overlord speed (which was an obvious move) the mines lost a LOT of their effectiveness. Not to mention that mini muta switch JD did at one point was very annoying and was simply very cost efficient for JD. Near the end too many tanks, not enough vultures no mines to be annoying while JD tried to use his defilers. Ultras didn't really come out, the point of mass tanks is to completely rape ultras but if he didnt have a more goliath/vulture composition early on there was no reason for JD to even invest in ultras.


Don't get me wrong it was a great game by both players but if Midas had a better unit composition throughout the game he should've at least been in a much better position or even won the game.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Gtks
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece135 Posts
April 29 2010 22:54 GMT
#1253
The most fanny part was some people were saying Flash got raped! the map wasn't big game hunders that you were under the impresion that 1 base has endless minerals and after MVP loosing so many battle cruisers Flash did hade the economy to rebuild and what did we see ? some battle cruisers sverelly damaged to run and hide behind a closed boor with 2 starports and 2 tanks in siege mode oustide the usual army of goliaths and MVP was trying to take them out with USING yamato hehehehe some vultures were trying to stop an attempted to expand get real the ONLY way to beat Flash is to make him belive you have alote of minerals left and time to build come on MVP seemed like not have find a balace of how many battlecruisers to build to leave some room and from ground units from the other hand Flash hade asyly found the balance. in The bottom line noone can match him i think.
Thessaloniki - Greece
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
April 29 2010 23:00 GMT
#1254
dammit mvp. why can't you play like this in pl
Graphicscolosi suck
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
April 29 2010 23:00 GMT
#1255
On April 30 2010 07:54 Gtks wrote:
The most fanny part was some people were saying Flash got raped! the map wasn't big game hunders that you were under the impresion that 1 base has endless minerals and after MVP loosing so many battle cruisers Flash did hade the economy to rebuild and what did we see ? some battle cruisers sverelly damaged to run and hide behind a closed boor with 2 starports and 2 tanks in siege mode oustide the usual army of goliaths and MVP was trying to take them out with USING yamato hehehehe some vultures were trying to stop an attempted to expand get real the ONLY way to beat Flash is to make him belive you have alote of minerals left and time to build come on MVP seemed like not have find a balace of how many battlecruisers to build to leave some room and from ground units from the other hand Flash hade asyly found the balance. in The bottom line noone can match him i think.

clearly...
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
April 29 2010 23:27 GMT
#1256
If MVP keeps playing well, Stars will win Proleague.

He's still probably not going to win this Bo5, of course.
Zero fighting.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 30 2010 00:02 GMT
#1257
if this was bo3, flash might be in a bit of trouble, but i doubt mvp is gonna take 2 more games from him.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
April 30 2010 00:22 GMT
#1258
Game 4 was so good, but so sad Midas lost.

Bleh.

Flash dropping a game was also a surprise, but seeing that MVP did win 2-0 against a red-hot Baby does indicate that MVP is riding a "MVP"-level streak going into the Flash match. Well, the next Bo5 sets should determine his fate.
Gtks
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece135 Posts
April 30 2010 00:25 GMT
#1259
I don't think so they make alote of damage to Flash the funs that go WOOOOW and he is trying to impress them with 'new' ideas in the end his game play is not boring and his moves almost without an error he may loose couse he hade bad luck or he isnt in the mood in the bottom line let him play the way he likes he knows better.
Thessaloniki - Greece
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 30 2010 00:27 GMT
#1260
On April 30 2010 09:22 Apex wrote:
Game 4 was so good, but so sad Midas lost.


I was sad about Midas too, he played a very good game considering his opponent.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
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