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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 11:03 GMT
#661
one vessel frozen as it tries to emp 2 arbs

recall on 3! lots of things die to mines, and an emp on the surviving goons - the recall does very little damage.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 29 2010 11:03 GMT
#662
Arbiter recalls 3, but mines blow up a ton of the goons immediately and vultures clean up the rest without any real damage.
. . . nevermore
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 29 2010 11:03 GMT
#663
free with another bad recall, minees, emp, and dead goons.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
April 29 2010 11:03 GMT
#664
Surely Free can afford a butt load of carriers by now?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#665
hiya finally moving into the 1.5 base proper and sieges up a few tanks

pure zealot heading out to attack the tanks!

3 tanks die but no more

Free's army moving around midmap - clearing mines and turrets
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#666
Free really needs storms. Hiya's army has so many tanks and science vessels that dragoons and zealots are just going to vaporise.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#667
3 pretty disappointing recalls so far
KTY
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#668
Free is starting to fall apart.
Flash returns...
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#669
On April 29 2010 19:52 darktreb wrote:
This is one of those myths that I wish I could make money off of. Is there a way I can make a permanent statement along the lines of "MVP's TvT is not good"?

Here's how MVP's 3 wins that suddenly make him "good" at TvT played out:

1. A map split against Baby where Baby definitely could have won or at least played for a draw had he not sent his entire army into MVP's main to get trapped

2. Vulture bust that was very poorly defended by Baby, ended the game right there

3. This game against Flash where he was outplayed until the BC switch, then proceeded to play really well

Notice something? He didn't win a single "standard" TvT, not even close. In fact, he was behind in the two map split games (though he did a very good job in evening out those situations).

Of course, winning is all that counts in SC but winning standard is what counts when it comes to predicting future performance. MVP hasn't won a single standard TvT in a long time (maybe his win over Bogus in MST was standard? Even then it's Bogus). Skyhigh just worked him last night the same way you can expect Flash to work him the next 3 games.


What's "standard"?

What's not "standard" in the game he played today? It's 100% standard TvT from beginning to end.

What's not "standard" in a vulture bust on maps that favorize vulture openings? This happens all the time.

What's not "standard" in the first game vs Baby, except the ending? Baby made a mistake, so what? Players make mistakes. Some are good at taking advantage of them, some are not.


Here's my prediction: Flash will win the next 3 against MVP and MVP will go sub-500 in TvT for his 10 games after the 3 losses. I'll gladly take a month-long ban if either of those things don't happen.


As far as I'm concerned, this statement just confirms you're more bitter about Flash losing than calmly stating your actual thoughts.

Just watch today's game again. And tell me that didn't look like S-class TvT play from both players.

(For the record, I don't really give a shit about MVP. I just like good Starcraft, and this was an awesome, extremely high level game which I thoroughly enjoyed.)
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#670
a small clash between armies midmap - a single good storm on the frontal tank clump and free backs away

2 tanks siege up below 11.5!

man it sure is hard to attack superexpanding protoss as terran!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9432 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#671
hiya is in a better place than free
he might have this
my lb is ruinned :D
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 29 2010 11:04 GMT
#672
On April 29 2010 20:03 RowdierBob wrote:
Surely Free can afford a butt load of carriers by now?


I think the map is way too open for carriers?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#673
hiya getting off decent emps
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#674
On April 29 2010 20:03 RowdierBob wrote:
Surely Free can afford a butt load of carriers by now?


Not going to help if you can't stop Hiya's army from crushing every single expo you have.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#675
wow - people still arguing over that game while another pretty good game is going on.

can't you guys enjoy both player's skills?

free starts a fleet beacon and a buttload of stargates
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#676
What is free doing? Either he's waiting for something really special, or he doesn't know what to do at this point in the game, to the point of waiting for quite some time before sending zealots to clean up tanks shelling his gateways.
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#677
Fleet beacon and lots of Stargates in bottom left!
. . . nevermore
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9432 Posts
April 29 2010 11:05 GMT
#678
free is going for carriers
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
April 29 2010 11:06 GMT
#679
On April 29 2010 20:03 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 20:01 Scaramanga wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:58 SuperArc wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:56 moopie wrote:
I really dislike this build from Hiya. its the exact same one he did on Violet...


You know how this build is called?

Flash build.

Your flash antifaning is going pretty terribly tonight i must say


This has nothing to do with anti-flash...

Flash went this EVERY TvP in 2009...

Oh i wouldnt say every TvP in 09......
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 11:06 GMT
#680
free recalls into Hiya's new base at 12.5 - but it all dies quickly - not sure if it's worth it

free with 7 stargate carrier...!!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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