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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 29 2010 10:51 GMT
#581
hts for free..good choice
arbiter out at last!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
April 29 2010 10:51 GMT
#582
Hiya randomly loses a tank?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 10:51 GMT
#583
hiya on 5 factories, 2 shops, double armories
He's building more turrets at his base at 5.5

Free expanding to 9
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 29 2010 10:51 GMT
#584
On April 29 2010 19:45 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 19:43 Withershins wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:41 Holgerius wrote:
Lol, it's amazing to see how much discussion that ensues after Flash just loses a game. XD


Flash fans tend to be head and shoulders above everyone else when it comes to fanboyism for some reason.


All fanboyism is the same, it's just that right now Flash has more vocal fans because he's doing so well right now


and apparently more anti-fans cause everyone else is doing poorly in comparison.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#585
Free finally adding bases.

I would think when T takes a fast third and builds many turrets, that's a clear sign to expand.
My strategy is to fork people.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#586
double armory... hiya maybe will push when he is 2-1 ups
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#587
Free should pull a Violet and mass expo all over the place while adding a billion gateways. Hiya's turtling so hard.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#588
free's forge spinning - ground ups probably

Hiya with the early macro advantage - will he push out before free's 4th starts to pay off?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#589
On April 29 2010 19:51 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 19:45 KristianJS wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:43 Withershins wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:41 Holgerius wrote:
Lol, it's amazing to see how much discussion that ensues after Flash just loses a game. XD


Flash fans tend to be head and shoulders above everyone else when it comes to fanboyism for some reason.


All fanboyism is the same, it's just that right now Flash has more vocal fans because he's doing so well right now


and apparently more anti-fans cause everyone else is doing poorly in comparison.


True dat. ㅜㅜ
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#590
On April 29 2010 19:43 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 19:41 Plexa wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:38 PoP wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:33 Plexa wrote:
@Pop
Just take a look at Flash's recent TvTs and compare them to this one, also look at MVPs recent TvTs and compare them to this one. Flash basically outplayed MVP from the looks of it, except for when he lost his bcs


I disagree with this. Although I didn't follow the game closely due to being at work, I thought the game was "at least" even until that BC fight. I was actually thinking MVP was slightly ahead economically the whole time and started his BCs at the absolute perfect timing.

He basically outplayed Flash this game imo. Slightly, but still, this is no fluke or luck or anything. I haven't seen many of MVP's last TvT's, but seeing that game after learning he beat Baby last time is quite enough to convince me he's genuinely good at the matchup. Lately, at least.

MVP's recent wins have been pretty sketchy. He's the kind of player that is having a really lucky streak at the moment and will fail hard next season. Backho made a semifinal, anything can happen in BW.

Ehh, Backho made a semifinal cause his PvP is actually pretty legit. MVP's recent play in TvT has been pretty legit, so who knows.


This is one of those myths that I wish I could make money off of. Is there a way I can make a permanent statement along the lines of "MVP's TvT is not good"?

Here's how MVP's 3 wins that suddenly make him "good" at TvT played out:

1. A map split against Baby where Baby definitely could have won or at least played for a draw had he not sent his entire army into MVP's main to get trapped

2. Vulture bust that was very poorly defended by Baby, ended the game right there

3. This game against Flash where he was outplayed until the BC switch, then proceeded to play really well

Notice something? He didn't win a single "standard" TvT, not even close. In fact, he was behind in the two map split games (though he did a very good job in evening out those situations).

Of course, winning is all that counts in SC but winning standard is what counts when it comes to predicting future performance. MVP hasn't won a single standard TvT in a long time (maybe his win over Bogus in MST was standard? Even then it's Bogus). Skyhigh just worked him last night the same way you can expect Flash to work him the next 3 games.

Here's my prediction: Flash will win the next 3 against MVP and MVP will go sub-500 in TvT for his 10 games after the 3 losses. I'll gladly take a month-long ban if either of those things don't happen.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#591
Hiya-tortoise.
Flash returns...
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 29 2010 10:52 GMT
#592
Free tries to get an observer into the main to see the factory count, but it just barely gets picked off by turrets.
. . . nevermore
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 10:53 GMT
#593
free hallucinates his arbiters twice, producing 4 fakes...
they head out
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 29 2010 10:53 GMT
#594
ooo
halucinated arbiters
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
April 29 2010 10:53 GMT
#595
Cool
Hallucinated arbs for free :D
Flash returns...
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#596
Turrets do jack shit and the arbiter still recalls in the middle of Hiya's mineral line.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#597
the arbiters head down towards the main - the hallucinations eat all the turret hits - recall!

tons of mines there - lots die

hiya's going to clear out the recall pretty quickly - but one armory goes down!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
April 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#598
Free you animal.
Flash returns...
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#599
Hallucinated arbiter recall in the main coming!

Hiya has plenty of time to setup defense, but it's still going to take out at least 1 armory!!
. . . nevermore
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#600
On April 29 2010 19:52 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 19:43 Roffles wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:41 Plexa wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:38 PoP wrote:
On April 29 2010 19:33 Plexa wrote:
@Pop
Just take a look at Flash's recent TvTs and compare them to this one, also look at MVPs recent TvTs and compare them to this one. Flash basically outplayed MVP from the looks of it, except for when he lost his bcs


I disagree with this. Although I didn't follow the game closely due to being at work, I thought the game was "at least" even until that BC fight. I was actually thinking MVP was slightly ahead economically the whole time and started his BCs at the absolute perfect timing.

He basically outplayed Flash this game imo. Slightly, but still, this is no fluke or luck or anything. I haven't seen many of MVP's last TvT's, but seeing that game after learning he beat Baby last time is quite enough to convince me he's genuinely good at the matchup. Lately, at least.

MVP's recent wins have been pretty sketchy. He's the kind of player that is having a really lucky streak at the moment and will fail hard next season. Backho made a semifinal, anything can happen in BW.

Ehh, Backho made a semifinal cause his PvP is actually pretty legit. MVP's recent play in TvT has been pretty legit, so who knows.


This is one of those myths that I wish I could make money off of. Is there a way I can make a permanent statement along the lines of "MVP's TvT is not good"?

Here's how MVP's 3 wins that suddenly make him "good" at TvT played out:

1. A map split against Baby where Baby definitely could have won or at least played for a draw had he not sent his entire army into MVP's main to get trapped

2. Vulture bust that was very poorly defended by Baby, ended the game right there

3. This game against Flash where he was outplayed until the BC switch, then proceeded to play really well

Notice something? He didn't win a single "standard" TvT, not even close. In fact, he was behind in the two map split games (though he did a very good job in evening out those situations).

Of course, winning is all that counts in SC but winning standard is what counts when it comes to predicting future performance. MVP hasn't won a single standard TvT in a long time (maybe his win over Bogus in MST was standard? Even then it's Bogus). Skyhigh just worked him last night the same way you can expect Flash to work him the next 3 games.

Here's my prediction: Flash will win the next 3 against MVP and MVP will go sub-500 in TvT for his 10 games after the 3 losses. I'll gladly take a month-long ban if either of those things don't happen.

I wholeheartedly support this post. In fact, I will happily ban you for a month!
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