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L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
April 22 2010 18:00 GMT
#781
On April 23 2010 00:58 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 00:45 Emon_ wrote:
Flash is awesome and a full year younger then JD. Hope the fame helps him out in the future because he seems to be a really mannered young man.

Sad to see Sea go out, but man did he play good in set 2. Just an epic, epic game from both guys.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/424_Flash/main
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/211_Jaedong/main

One year?


wow, over 2,5 years? I've always thought they were like 1-1,5 year apart too.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 18:05:12
April 22 2010 18:04 GMT
#782
On April 23 2010 00:19 adelarge wrote:
The Hwasin curse! People who beat him sometimes end up winning the MSL and sometimes they don't! Will it strike again this season? Stay tuned!


Actually, out of his entire MSL career(at least 9 and counting) and out of his entire OSL career(at least 5 and counting), only 3 people who beat him went on to win. 2 of them won against Jangbi in finals, 1 of them was Bisu when Hwasin somehow came up to the semi-finals.

Everyone else got knocked out, including everyone in Hwasin OSL groups that he did not make it out of. Important facts to base Flash's success? No. Fun facts to judge Flash with? Sure.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
April 22 2010 18:07 GMT
#783
Luxury beat Hwasin and went on to win Lost Saga MSL and Bisu beat him and went on to win GOM MSL 2 and Clubday MSL. GGPlay also beat him in Daum OSL and went on to when his title. So yes, a fair number of players have won titles after beating hwasin.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 22 2010 18:10 GMT
#784
On April 23 2010 00:19 adelarge wrote:
The Hwasin curse! People who beat him sometimes end up winning the MSL and sometimes they don't! Will it strike again this season? Stay tuned!


LOL

and also a big lol @ the guys who actually went back to count how many of hwasin's knockouts were from the eventual winner :|
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
April 22 2010 19:03 GMT
#785
I lol'd at those drawings under results spoilers.
[TLMS] REBOOT
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 22 2010 19:09 GMT
#786
On April 23 2010 03:07 Nick_54 wrote:
Luxury beat Hwasin and went on to win Lost Saga MSL and Bisu beat him and went on to win GOM MSL 2 and Clubday MSL. GGPlay also beat him in Daum OSL and went on to when his title. So yes, a fair number of players have won titles after beating hwasin.


A fair number of ex-champs beat hwasin in SLs too. But this curse stopped occurring a few seasons ago. This kind of stuff happens when your qualification rate to the ro16 is 100%.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 22 2010 19:44 GMT
#787
Damn it Hydra D:
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 22 2010 20:44 GMT
#788
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL
cw)minsean(ru
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8062 Posts
April 22 2010 21:14 GMT
#789
On April 23 2010 05:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL

JD get better and better while advancing in the leagues. Remember last season he got humiliated by Flash in OLS Ro8 and then dominated him although he looked just as invincible as right now in the MSL final. Plus he has secret weapons such as power outage and killer eyes.

So... I'm afraid Flash still has a serious rival in this MSL.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 21:25:24
April 22 2010 21:21 GMT
#790
On April 23 2010 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 05:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL

JD get better and better while advancing in the leagues. Remember last season he got humiliated by Flash in OLS Ro8 and then dominated him although he looked just as invincible as right now in the MSL final. Plus he has secret weapons such as power outage and killer eyes.

So... I'm afraid Flash still has a serious rival in this MSL.
I remember it was an intense, back-and-forth series. No domination.

The only set that can be considered to be one was the last set, and Flash had to deal with the pressure of his father (later ejected), his coach (threatened to walk out with team), and Kespa referees "arguing" over the black out set.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 22 2010 21:25 GMT
#791
On April 23 2010 06:21 domane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 23 2010 05:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL

JD get better and better while advancing in the leagues. Remember last season he got humiliated by Flash in OLS Ro8 and then dominated him although he looked just as invincible as right now in the MSL final. Plus he has secret weapons such as power outage and killer eyes.

So... I'm afraid Flash still has a serious rival in this MSL.
I remember it was an intense, back-and-forth series. No domination.

The only set that can be considered to be one was the last set, and Flash had to deal with the pressure of his father (later ejected), his coach (threatened to walk out with team), and Kespa referees "arguing" over the black out set.


The only game that was back-and-forth was the third game. And there was domination, JD raped Flash completely in mind games (He had always the BO advantage).
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8062 Posts
April 22 2010 21:41 GMT
#792
On April 23 2010 06:21 domane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 23 2010 05:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL

JD get better and better while advancing in the leagues. Remember last season he got humiliated by Flash in OLS Ro8 and then dominated him although he looked just as invincible as right now in the MSL final. Plus he has secret weapons such as power outage and killer eyes.

So... I'm afraid Flash still has a serious rival in this MSL.
I remember it was an intense, back-and-forth series. No domination.

The only set that can be considered to be one was the last set, and Flash had to deal with the pressure of his father (later ejected), his coach (threatened to walk out with team), and Kespa referees "arguing" over the black out set.

I'm a huuuge Flash fan, but Jaedong really played better that day.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 22 2010 22:59 GMT
#793
Nice games today, glad to see free advance. Hydra played some baller ZvZ, where does cj get these all these gosu's to be. Unrelated but how are people still doubting JD, kids gonna rise like a phoenix into the Bo5's and take it home the same way he's done the last 3 (4?) season
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
April 23 2010 00:56 GMT
#794
I think Baby has an interesting playstyle. maybe not my favourite style of play but at least he's doing hes own thing. Had a hard time against MVP though. Anyways, I hope he wins this MSL.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
April 23 2010 00:56 GMT
#795
Lol hydra won once.
When there's Flash there's a way.
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
April 23 2010 01:19 GMT
#796
On April 23 2010 09:56 LuigiNMario wrote:
Lol hydra won once.

Yeah, but it was ZvZ ^^. Anyways, I find it depressing that Sea never seems to make it in the individual leagues. What exactly is he doing wrong?
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
April 23 2010 02:25 GMT
#797
On April 23 2010 07:59 n.DieJokes wrote:
Nice games today, glad to see free advance. Hydra played some baller ZvZ, where does cj get these all these gosu's to be. Unrelated but how are people still doubting JD, kids gonna rise like a phoenix into the Bo5's and take it home the same way he's done the last 3 (4?) season

This, JD is the damn Bo5 master
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 23 2010 03:27 GMT
#798
I really want to see FvJ in a standard game with Jaedong remembering consume. Not that the mind games of the NATE MSL weren't fun, let's just see who the better player is straight-up.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 23 2010 03:58 GMT
#799
On April 23 2010 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 05:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
oh jaedong giving me a scare
and looks like the hwasin curse is about to kick in
Flash is winning the MSL

JD get better and better while advancing in the leagues. Remember last season he got humiliated by Flash in OLS Ro8 and then dominated him although he looked just as invincible as right now in the MSL final. Plus he has secret weapons such as power outage and killer eyes.

So... I'm afraid Flash still has a serious rival in this MSL.


Er I think it's pretty fair to say that Flash looks even better now than he did the previous MSL finals. The real reason being that he lost a final and is still tearing shit apart (including beating Jaedong like a day later)

Is Jaedong a threat in Bo5? Always.
Did I consider the last MSL final a domination? No not at all. Jaedong won the first, Flash won the second, the third game is a fuck fest, and the fourth game was a rock rolling down the hill. Jaedong played better that day but it sure as hell wasn't domination. Domination implies a 3-0 rapefest.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
j2choe
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada243 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 06:37:37
April 23 2010 06:37 GMT
#800
No it doesn't.

JD destroyed the first game with his first wave of muta. Flash made no cannons and got rolled. Second game JD took a pretty serious lead that he burned when Flash managed to turn the game around with key drops, brilliant micro at the end. Third game as we know was pretty strongly in Dong's favor before the power was pulled. Last game, as we know was a wash.

2 rapes, 1 late game loss, and a pretty decisive victory is domination to me. Flash never had a foothold in this series.
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