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hussambani
Profile Joined November 2009
Denmark31 Posts
April 17 2010 13:23 GMT
#361
On April 17 2010 18:18 zmeqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 18:16 hussambani wrote:
Great got the next match!! you can do it boy


Seems like almost all the kt fans dislike movie.




It's not really that I dislike Movie.. I actually like them both :=)

But I do favor Great more than Movie tho hehe
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 17 2010 15:18 GMT
#362
Seemed like Flash doesn't lose his momentum. I hope he will continue like that.

Midas won against Jangbi? What's wrong with Jangbi. He used to be the best PvTer in the world and now he sucks...

geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
April 17 2010 15:22 GMT
#363
On April 18 2010 00:18 Lebesgue wrote:
Seemed like Flash doesn't lose his momentum. I hope he will continue like that.

Midas won against Jangbi? What's wrong with Jangbi. He used to be the best PvTer in the world and now he sucks...



Midas has the best TvP in the world and now hes back. maybe too much for jangbi to handle
pew pew
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 17 2010 17:03 GMT
#364
On April 18 2010 00:18 Lebesgue wrote:
Midas won against Jangbi? What's wrong with Jangbi. He used to be the best PvTer in the world and now he sucks...

Just the general increase in skill, I think. Two years ago, or maybe as late as one year ago, a player could stand out by being slightly better than everyone else at one thing (say, using storms effectively in PvT). These days all decent players are so good at everything that it takes much more to win consistently even in one matchup. The recent terran surge doesn't help JangBi either. Given the circumstances, I don't think he's doing that poorly.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 23:46:55
April 17 2010 17:15 GMT
#365
Just watched Movie vs Great and I expected this, I knew Great studied Movie's PvZ. I don't know how Movie was suppose to counter that built, maybe more dragoons? Movie definitely needed to make more cannons in his main and an observer in front of his natural.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 21:27:29
April 17 2010 21:09 GMT
#366
Terrans love to bitch about how they get all the "gay shit" done to them as they keep on rolling over zergs. Whatever, I agree, movie sucks so much he is in the round of 8 in both leagues cause he really sucks.

Also, I remember arguing with someone how Kal is no way the undisputed best protoss right now. Hope this frees your stubbornness cause Kal just got snowed in.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 17 2010 21:46 GMT
#367
darn, jangbi :/ but it's ok since he lost to a resurgent "old-timer" (ok more like "mid-timer." how about "S-class 3 years ago"?)
Writer
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 17 2010 21:58 GMT
#368
Midas has been around since 03. He's pretty damn oldschool.
Remember Violet.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
April 19 2010 13:22 GMT
#369
Let's see Great stats in 2010 (ok, the results of Great vs Movie are in the statistics, but I am too lazy to redo the math):

Overall
# of matches: 26
18W, 8L (69.23%)

(He is on a roll, even though most of his opponents weren't worth much)

vs. Protoss
# of matches: 10
7W, 3L (70%)

vs. Protoss in Fighting Spirit
# of matches: 5
4W, 1L (80%)

Streak before the match: 3 wins

Now let's check Movie:

Overall
# of matches: 37
19W, 18L (51.35%)

vs. Zerg
# of matches: 13
9W, 4L (69.23%)

vs. Zerg on Fighting Spirit
# of matches: 7
4W, 3L (57.14%)

Streak before the match: 1 loss

Great had the momentum, more televised matches in the map and a better winning record on the map. His victory was not at all surprising.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
April 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#370
What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 19 2010 17:02 GMT
#371
I think Jangbi said in an interview recently that PvZ is now a more fun matchup for him to play than PvT, but I dunno if that happened as a result of his PvT getting worse or not.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Actionshoe
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany4 Posts
April 19 2010 18:00 GMT
#372
I wanna ask, is there are thread where I can find out, which Gamers are still in the MSL, OSL and AIR.
With all this leagues this year, i am confused. I think Flash is the online one, who is still in every individual league right?
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 19 2010 18:02 GMT
#373
On April 20 2010 03:00 Actionshoe wrote:
I wanna ask, is there are thread where I can find out, which Gamers are still in the MSL, OSL and AIR.
With all this leagues this year, i am confused. I think Flash is the online one, who is still in every individual league right?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=115662
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 19 2010 20:50 GMT
#374
ooo <3 interesting
Free took out sea

i hope free wins this MSL
he really deserves it
cw)minsean(ru
Actionshoe
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany4 Posts
April 19 2010 20:52 GMT
#375
Thy@SuperArc
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
April 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#376
On April 17 2010 22:14 faction123 wrote:
Yep. I love just about every other toss (even jaehoon), but movie just annoys me to no end for this reason. also he's ugly

Same here, I actually used to like movie before the OSL finals though. Also, you think so? I think he's actually kinda cute, just really really REALLY awkward and he does some funny faces while playing. Was it ever explained why people in CJ call him queen though?
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 19:42:31
April 20 2010 19:35 GMT
#377
On April 20 2010 01:45 Weasel- wrote:
What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?

This made me look at Jangbi's stat's since the start of 2010. He is 4-8 (33.3%) in PvT and 8-2 (80%-holy crap) in PvZ. Admittedly the list of terrans he has played is much more impressive than the list of zergs but still, that is really a big shift from the guy who used to have the best PvT in the world.

Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
April 20 2010 23:46 GMT
#378
Wow. I'm really impressed with Midas. Old school comeback!
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
owenowens33
Profile Joined April 2010
United States94 Posts
April 21 2010 06:51 GMT
#379
On April 21 2010 04:35 Zaxro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 01:45 Weasel- wrote:
What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?

This made me look at Jangbi's stat's since the start of 2010. He is 4-8 (33.3%) in PvT and 8-2 (80%-holy crap) in PvZ. Admittedly the list of terrans he has played is much more impressive than the list of zergs but still, that is really a big shift from the guy who used to have the best PvT in the world.



I think I read an interview somewhere in which Jangbi talked about his recent success in PvZ. He said that he simply enjoyed playing PvZ more, and that the matchup and its dynamics were much more appealing to him now. He also noted that he felt the opposite way before; he loved PvT and found PvZ boring or confusing.

This is probably why Jangbi is in such a PvT slump. However, being a huge Jangbi fan from the beginning, I must say I kind of like that he is getting so good at the PvZ matchup, especially since he has been demonstrating solid PvP as well (his game vs Horang2 tonight was a must watch). I feel like he is mastering, or at least gaining a deep understanding of a match up that is currently very hard for Protoss. However, I also hope / believe that Jangbi will regain his PvT magic (and really, some of his old PvT games were pure magic) and put it all together, and then maybe he can make a run at winning a starleague.

Of course...this is if he can do this before SC2 takes over the scene...
Success is never final; failure is rarely fatal.
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