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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#341
Lol, MSL in its "last 10 games and strengths" treats Fantasy as a 4 bar player, max strength.

But I don't think it's true, the way Fantasy has been playing.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
April 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#342
gay fish?
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
April 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#343
On April 15 2010 19:49 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2010 19:48 Ikonn wrote:
On April 15 2010 19:46 Polis wrote:
I had just watch near the ending, so what had stopped baby to just send 5 goliath to kill that BC, mines? It would be trapped between goliaths and turrets.


All of his goliaths were being contained by MVP's army



His siege tanks should have been in the front, not in the back of the goliaths.


In that case MVP would have used yamato on siege tanks, and then he would have just pushed with his tanks building to soak some dmg and bc's.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
April 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#344
calm : vs. ALL 22-15 - 59.5% 7-8 vs. T 46.7%; kespa ranking 3rd last 10 - 5-5
fantasy: vs ALL 17-14 - 54.8%; 5-4 vs. Z 55.6; kespa ranking 9th; last 10 - 5-5
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:52 GMT
#345
Both players 5-5 in last 10...
mediocrity is the name of the game
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#346
On April 15 2010 19:50 wfoperational wrote:
[image loading]

Poor BaBy


Ahh, now I feel so bad for cheering against him =/
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5674 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#347
If Baby played with even more patience and used his brain There's no way he could have lost considering his progamer speed/control.
FBH #1!
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#348
Alternatively, he could have at least used his buildings offensively. Brought down all the floating ones at the same time right towards that contain. If MVP went to engage (which he'd have to do to kill all of them before they got to bottom left), he could use the opportunity to push out and break that tank contain with an advantage. If MVP didn't try to engage the floating buildings, he could have used them to soak up tank and BC fire when making that last push, or just bring them all the way into the main and set up for a tie. Seems like he didn't evaluate his options properly before just giving up on the game. Still, I give him credit, I could almost hear an internal dialogue going "this is so annoying/boring, i don't even care anymore, I can easily beat him in the next games anyways"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#349
On April 15 2010 19:50 Jackal03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2010 19:47 darktreb wrote:
On April 15 2010 19:45 Jackal03 wrote:
On April 15 2010 19:42 PoP wrote:
On April 15 2010 19:41 tyCe wrote:
BaBy could have just floated his buildings in the corner where his army was. Clump up those goliaths away from the cliffs and it's a stalemate pretty much..


He didn't have any floatable buildings left (I think). And there's no way he could have floated one from top right anyway lol.


he still had some factorys in his main, floating above some turrets

baby's bad move was when he got cornered in mvp main, there was no way he could win once he got trapped


Yeah Baby was in a tough spot though - he couldn't just send a few units to kill MVP's main because BCs would just Yamato them all. But if he sends his whole army (like he did) then he gets trapped. Not really sure what else he could have done other than just posture around the map and hope for MVP to screw up (with 20/20 hindsight, this looks like it would have been the best move).

There was simply no way Baby was going to be able to eliminate MVP that game (short of MVP giving away a bunch of units).


he could try to send a bait unit to destroy mvp main while catching the BCs in transit to get the bait

still, not sure this would work, though spot for him

He royally fucked up when he unsieged his tanks after hitting the buildings and move into the tank line and got raped. He should have pulled back and then rinsed and repeated to kill the bcs
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#350
Calm adjusts in his seat.
Fantasy pushes up his glasses...can he take revenge?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#351
Even if Baby had got a building into the corner he would still have to deal with endless yamatos. He just shouldn't have got baited so easily into an elimination race when its obvious MVP is doing it as a trick.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#352
calm: 1
fantasy: 7
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 15 2010 10:53 GMT
#353
anyway, clam vs fantasy starting
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#354
On April 15 2010 19:53 s.Q.uelched wrote:
If Baby played with even more patience and used his brain There's no way he could have lost considering his progamer speed/control.

MVP is pretty fast himself. If I recall, he's known for having incredibly high APM. He's also a progamer...
God Bless
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#355
Fantasy the yellow terran at 7.

Calm the beige Zerg at 1.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#356
Rematch from yesterday's OSL
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-15 10:58:59
April 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#357
On April 15 2010 19:51 Chen wrote:
1 wraith+cloak woulda won the game for Baby =(



The only way Baby could have won that game is if he destroyed most of MVP's main earlier when he had the macro advantage, and he was at that point too but Baby didn't scout the battlecruisers until it was too late.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:54 GMT
#358
Match Point again... T_T
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 15 2010 10:55 GMT
#359
let's see if fantasy DOESN'T go M&M, i hope he plays his standard and win
BW is back
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 15 2010 10:55 GMT
#360
12pool? curious
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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