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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
March 14 2010 18:25 GMT
#741
goddamn light so clutch
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
March 14 2010 18:59 GMT
#742
On March 15 2010 02:01 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 23:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On March 14 2010 22:40 n.DieJokes wrote:
On March 14 2010 03:20 Housemd wrote:
Its the time for Jaedong, hes done after this season unless he shows us some good starcraft the next couple of days....which i dont think is happening


hes in a slump for a while and may not recover

Always nice to hear some professional analysis, good thing your usually wrong (like horrendously wrong) for the first 30 or 40 minutes. But seriously people have been saying this is the end of Jaedong for 3 years, he's still the reigning MSL champion and Winners League has been a lost cause for Oz anyway. I mean christ, he's not even sub 50% his last ten games; it's absurd to look at his entire career, then at his last few ZvT's and say it's all over

End or not, I think it's time people can legitimately start throwing the "s" word around. + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong lost 0-2 to Baby and then he lost against AIR FORCE ACE in Winner's League.

I know that even S class players have their hiccups and occasional loss and we can't call a slump on those minor things alone. But the players Jaedong has been losing to and the consistency with which he has been losing to them, it would be hard to argue that he isn't slumping at least RIGHT NOW. Maybe he'll pick it back up in as little as a week, but right now it is definitely a slump, not just a "Oh Jaedong lost a random game here or there, he is still the best player ever though."

Jaedong has always been the kind of player who wins and dominates by his mechanics more than anything. When everyone else reaches his level of mechanical skill, he will slowly start to fall. The question is whether we've reached this point in progaming, or perhaps Jaedong is just having a rough time lately.

Why are you quoting me to disagree on a point I didn't make?

Housemd said slump and you said he was wrong.
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 20:00:09
March 14 2010 19:50 GMT
#743
On March 15 2010 03:59 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2010 02:01 n.DieJokes wrote:
On March 14 2010 23:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On March 14 2010 22:40 n.DieJokes wrote:
On March 14 2010 03:20 Housemd wrote:
Its the time for Jaedong, hes done after this season unless he shows us some good starcraft the next couple of days....which i dont think is happening


hes in a slump for a while and may not recover

Always nice to hear some professional analysis, good thing your usually wrong (like horrendously wrong) for the first 30 or 40 minutes. But seriously people have been saying this is the end of Jaedong for 3 years, he's still the reigning MSL champion and Winners League has been a lost cause for Oz anyway. I mean christ, he's not even sub 50% his last ten games; it's absurd to look at his entire career, then at his last few ZvT's and say it's all over

End or not, I think it's time people can legitimately start throwing the "s" word around. + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong lost 0-2 to Baby and then he lost against AIR FORCE ACE in Winner's League.

I know that even S class players have their hiccups and occasional loss and we can't call a slump on those minor things alone. But the players Jaedong has been losing to and the consistency with which he has been losing to them, it would be hard to argue that he isn't slumping at least RIGHT NOW. Maybe he'll pick it back up in as little as a week, but right now it is definitely a slump, not just a "Oh Jaedong lost a random game here or there, he is still the best player ever though."

Jaedong has always been the kind of player who wins and dominates by his mechanics more than anything. When everyone else reaches his level of mechanical skill, he will slowly start to fall. The question is whether we've reached this point in progaming, or perhaps Jaedong is just having a rough time lately.

Why are you quoting me to disagree on a point I didn't make?

Housemd said slump and you said he was wrong.

Housemd said JD is dead, I said he was wrong. There's no question whether or not he's in a slump...
Edit: Forget I said anything, looks like just a misunderstanding
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 01:09:17
March 16 2010 01:08 GMT
#744
On March 15 2010 00:36 QuakerOats wrote:
JD not the only one struggling vs T...

Winners League TvZ 63.2% from 87 games
Dream League TvZ 65.9% from 44 games

I blame Flash This game vs Light reminded me of JD vs Flash game 1 of the last OSL.


wow wtf? those stats are ridiculous

I guess meta-game needs to evolve from 2 hatch muta in order to counter 1 rax CC. But I highly doubt it will, 3 hatch before pool is just very not viable unless you get a very early scout in

EDIT: actually scratch that. Time to move on to Starcraft 2. I don't see Blizzard patching broodwar TvZ balance anytime in the future
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 16 2010 01:26 GMT
#745
On March 16 2010 10:08 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2010 00:36 QuakerOats wrote:
JD not the only one struggling vs T...

Winners League TvZ 63.2% from 87 games
Dream League TvZ 65.9% from 44 games

I blame Flash This game vs Light reminded me of JD vs Flash game 1 of the last OSL.


wow wtf? those stats are ridiculous

I guess meta-game needs to evolve from 2 hatch muta in order to counter 1 rax CC. But I highly doubt it will, 3 hatch before pool is just very not viable unless you get a very early scout in

EDIT: actually scratch that. Time to move on to Starcraft 2. I don't see Blizzard patching broodwar TvZ balance anytime in the future


Things could be better balanced through maps however. What frustrates me is that Kespa removes the two maps which were actually balanced TvZ (Outsider and Heartbreak Ridge) but keeps Neo Moon Glaive which is horribly imbalanced.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 16 2010 20:03 GMT
#746
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Jaedong
Light is a monster yo!
what's his current win streak?
cw)minsean(ru
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-20 09:17:49
March 20 2010 09:17 GMT
#747
Light has been incredible in WL. It's kind of surprising for me since his execution is often not as flawless as the other A players.

Also, the people that keep spamming the KT vs OGN results in this thread, GO DO IT IN THE KT VS OGN THREAD, NOT HERE!!!
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
March 20 2010 10:04 GMT
#748
On March 20 2010 18:17 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Light has been incredible in WL. It's kind of surprising for me since his execution is often not as flawless as the other A players.

Also, the people that keep spamming the KT vs OGN results in this thread, GO DO IT IN THE KT VS OGN THREAD, NOT HERE!!!

I'm more confused as to why you're bumping all the old LR threads...
( ・´ー・`)
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
March 21 2010 06:10 GMT
#749
On March 20 2010 19:04 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 18:17 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Light has been incredible in WL. It's kind of surprising for me since his execution is often not as flawless as the other A players.

Also, the people that keep spamming the KT vs OGN results in this thread, GO DO IT IN THE KT VS OGN THREAD, NOT HERE!!!

I'm more confused as to why you're bumping all the old LR threads...


What is there to be confused about? Like many people, I don't watch the games live due to the time. I'm behind and catching up on the VODs. WL games are incredibly long compared regular the Proleague season.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 21 2010 06:18 GMT
#750
Like many people they expect a in depth discussion if seeing a 4/5 day old thread being bumped.
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