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On March 01 2010 21:26 ilbh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 01 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:
You guys assume that Flash wouldn't know how to counter a tech switch by Kwanro. Of course he knows how to deal with it, but with Kwanro's superior eco mass hydra/muta would have been prety much unstoppable. Kwanro could continue reinforcing while constantly reinforcing Ultras is a lot more difficult not to mention hydra/muta is a lot better against Flash's army compsotion in general especially when you have that much production power seemed to me that Kwanro was behind economically the entire game. he tried to win the game with his initial lurkers and Flash did a drop in his main, killing pool. its a big loss right there and flash macro is always perfect. he only had to lift his CC for < 1 minute, no damage at all. and he only did like 2 valks, which is not so bad to his economy. going hydras when your enemy is full of tanks and vulture mines is not good at all. maybe all muta could work, but hydras would be melted.
did you miss the part where kwanro was ahead by abotu 4-5 bases for the better part of the midgame?
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Man I was sad then I was smiling like crazy.
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On March 01 2010 21:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly, a muta switch would have helped alot but I don't know if Kwanro was winning that game. Flash had great upgrades and could easily just start pumping golaiths. It's not like he didn't have turrets all around his 6 o clock bases...
Anyways, what's most impressive to me is how badly Flash's opening got blind countered and he still won with clutch decision making. I think alot of people miss that
Kwanro had the production power of 6 mining bases, Flash had the power of 2. If Kwanro did the muta switch Flash wouldn't have gotten his third up nearly as easily.
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On March 01 2010 21:16 Holgerius wrote:I hope Flash never ever goes for some stupid Fantasy-style build again (Valks vs Lurkers).  He got lucky this time because his opponent was a retard, but against JD or someone competent he would've been crushed in that game. So please Flash, stick to MnM.
flash knows his opponent well enough to know when to do fun builds
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On March 01 2010 21:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly, a muta switch would have helped alot but I don't know if Kwanro was winning that game. Flash had great upgrades and could easily just start pumping golaiths. It's not like he didn't have turrets all around his 6 o clock bases...
Anyways, what's most impressive to me is how badly Flash's opening got blind countered and he still won with clutch decision making. I think alot of people miss that Kwanro had the production power of 6 mining bases, Flash had the power of 2. If Kwanro did the muta switch Flash wouldn't have gotten his third up nearly as easily.
I don't understand at what point of the game this occurred...
Flash got his third up when Kwanro was on 4 bases. There was time for a muta switch in there somewhere, but people calling for it once Flash took 6 o clock are underestimating how quickly you can pump goliaths and turrets
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Two for two in the liquibet today :D Flash's face near the end was the best.
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On March 01 2010 21:21 MrHoon wrote:
Return of Netizen comments
(since wax is here I will say I gathered this from Fomos :D)
Netizen
lol that was just sick
Netizen
so inhuman
Netizen
lol only Flash can do this
Netizen
Kwanro needs to stick to all ins
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I joined Kwanro's fan cafe because he was so anal about it and today I'm going to leave his cafe.
Netizen
heater isn't bonjwa anymore
Netizen
The first true OME (OME = Oh my eyes, which is a way Koreans describe terrible games)
Netizen
Mines are the true victor of this game
Netizen
Mines probably have like 300 ultra kills
Netizen
As a zerg fan watching Flash win made me puke in my mouth
but god fucking damn kwanro you fucking suck ass
Netizen
plz retire kwanro
Netizen
only flash can pull this off
Netizen
OME game in a decade
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MY EYES ARE ROTTING
Netizen
AHHHHH MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Netizen
lolmines
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I almost died laughing
Netizen
watching this live made me believe that flash should take a drug test
Netizen
Ultraqueens, so revolutionary
Netizen
ULTRALISKSSS
Netizen
OH MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Netizen
As a woongjin fan I want flash to die
Netizen
Speechless
Netizen
bonjwa feelings from flash
Netizen
This is why GGplay and Jaedong are respected; they are the only ones who can kill Flash
Netizen
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AHHHHHHHH
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As a zerg fan that game made me so angry. He probably should have switched to mutas but as vasoline73 noted that kind of timing was harly clear and knowing Flash a million goliaths would have suddenly materialized seconds before the mutas popped anyway.
I could sum up the game this way: Flash + terran = mega imba. ㅜㅜ
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On March 01 2010 21:29 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:23 Fx_ wrote:On March 01 2010 21:01 Zona wrote:
No, despite Flash's skill that game, it wasn't his win, it was an idiotic loss by Kwanro. if kwanro switched to hydra/muta I think FlaSh would have found a best answer you cant find an answer when you are mass tank vult and out of nowhere 30 muta come in and rape your ass
THX for your comment, gosu
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On March 01 2010 21:36 Vasoline73 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 01 2010 21:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly, a muta switch would have helped alot but I don't know if Kwanro was winning that game. Flash had great upgrades and could easily just start pumping golaiths. It's not like he didn't have turrets all around his 6 o clock bases...
Anyways, what's most impressive to me is how badly Flash's opening got blind countered and he still won with clutch decision making. I think alot of people miss that Kwanro had the production power of 6 mining bases, Flash had the power of 2. If Kwanro did the muta switch Flash wouldn't have gotten his third up nearly as easily. I don't understand at what point of the game this occurred... Flash got his third up when Kwanro was on 4 bases. There was time for a muta switch in there somewhere, but people calling for it once Flash took 6 o clock are underestimating how quickly you can pump goliaths and turrets
cause it didnt, the base difference was never THAT significant. at points it was pretty difficult, i think 3base vs 6base. we need to take into account flash's extremely efficient vulture harass. mutas probably couldve done a fair bit of damage, but exaggerating how many bases kwanro was ahead by doesnt help the credibility of an argument for them
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On March 01 2010 21:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Honestly, a muta switch would have helped alot but I don't know if Kwanro was winning that game. Flash had great upgrades and could easily just start pumping golaiths. It's not like he didn't have turrets all around his 6 o clock bases...
Jaedong is able to kill massive Terran mech balls with hydra/muta on 3 bases.
Kwanro on 5+ bases should've completely owned Flash, if he played half smart.
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someone need to get the screenshot of flash loling
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On March 01 2010 21:41 Fx_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:21 MrHoon wrote:
Return of Netizen comments
(since wax is here I will say I gathered this from Fomos :D)
Netizen
lol that was just sick
Netizen
so inhuman
Netizen
lol only Flash can do this
Netizen
Kwanro needs to stick to all ins
Netizen
I joined Kwanro's fan cafe because he was so anal about it and today I'm going to leave his cafe.
Netizen
heater isn't bonjwa anymore
Netizen
The first true OME (OME = Oh my eyes, which is a way Koreans describe terrible games)
Netizen
Mines are the true victor of this game
Netizen
Mines probably have like 300 ultra kills
Netizen
As a zerg fan watching Flash win made me puke in my mouth
but god fucking damn kwanro you fucking suck ass
Netizen
plz retire kwanro
Netizen
only flash can pull this off
Netizen
OME game in a decade
Netizen
MY EYES ARE ROTTING
Netizen
AHHHHH MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Netizen
lolmines
Netizen
I almost died laughing
Netizen
watching this live made me believe that flash should take a drug test
Netizen
Ultraqueens, so revolutionary
Netizen
ULTRALISKSSS
Netizen
OH MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Netizen
As a woongjin fan I want flash to die
Netizen
Speechless
Netizen
bonjwa feelings from flash
Netizen
This is why GGplay and Jaedong are respected; they are the only ones who can kill Flash
Netizen
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING AHHHHHHHH ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS HILARIOUS!
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On March 01 2010 21:29 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:23 Fx_ wrote:On March 01 2010 21:01 Zona wrote:
No, despite Flash's skill that game, it wasn't his win, it was an idiotic loss by Kwanro. if kwanro switched to hydra/muta I think FlaSh would have found a best answer you cant find an answer when you are mass tank vult and out of nowhere 30 muta come in and rape your ass
obviously flash was scanning (and at the start he was rax scouting)
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On March 01 2010 20:59 Hot_Bid wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/KwanroMineSweeper.jpg)
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One of the most enjoyable games in a long time.. had so much fun :D But I'm a little angry on KT for not using Violet or Stats since pvz is just what they need to practice, the edge they lack.. a well well.. great anyway
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Flash balls pretty hard i must say
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On March 01 2010 21:48 Titanidis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:29 SkelA wrote:On March 01 2010 21:23 Fx_ wrote:On March 01 2010 21:01 Zona wrote:
No, despite Flash's skill that game, it wasn't his win, it was an idiotic loss by Kwanro. if kwanro switched to hydra/muta I think FlaSh would have found a best answer you cant find an answer when you are mass tank vult and out of nowhere 30 muta come in and rape your ass obviously flash was scanning (and at the start he was rax scouting)
thx man
and moreover 2 rax scouting over 2 zerg's base
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A muta switch might've worked to a certain degree. but he would not have been able to surprise Flash with 30 mutas out of nowhere. I guarantee you Flash was constantly scanning to see Kwanro's army composition.
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Be reasonable, Flash fans. That was 49% Flash being Flash, and 6,000% Kwanro being retarded.
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