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4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 14 2010 23:07 GMT
#1801
This website has to much fanboys.

KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
February 14 2010 23:07 GMT
#1802
Can someone please summarize the games of IdrA vs. Nony? OP doesn't seem to have results/detailed results... hope you don't mind!
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 14 2010 23:07 GMT
#1803
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 14 2010 23:08 GMT
#1804
People laughing at Idra for losing even though he's practicing with Koreans need to look at the bigger picture.

Idra lost BECAUSE he's training with Koreans. No Korean would expect proxy gates against a rax expand, because its unimaginable. (all-ins are so rare apart from WL).
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kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
February 14 2010 23:08 GMT
#1805
Of course IdrA is the better overall player. But I don't give a fuck, NonY won, IdrA out, yes!, period.
desu
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 14 2010 23:08 GMT
#1806
this blowsss, now instead of epic ret v idra finals we get mondragon/sen raping nony/jf 4-0
BlackYoshi
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
February 14 2010 23:09 GMT
#1807
gotta love SC players crying about creative application of cheese to catch a mechanics player off guard.


Do football players cry like little girls when the other team runs a flea flicker or a fake punt? Love when the "strategy" aspect of Real Time Strategy comes back into Starcraft instead of being an strict mechanics game

Nony outplayed the hell out of Idra, who was nervous the entire set, and choked. Hell, Nony should have won game 4 if he had just gotten a bunch of speedlots instead of DTs and hadn't made that bad attack. Game 5, he came out with an unorthodox build and just bowled Idra over.


Idra talked shit, got outplayed, and now he'll probably cry about it in another interview and we'll have some more great quotes for the Strip Idra game.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
February 14 2010 23:09 GMT
#1808
On February 15 2010 08:05 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Idra may have better mechanics, but this series proves Nony is the overall better player.


No 3-2 BO5 will ever prove that someone is better than someone else.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1809
On February 15 2010 08:09 BlackYoshi wrote:
gotta love SC players crying about creative application of cheese to catch a mechanics player off guard.


Do football players cry like little girls when the other team runs a flea flicker or a fake punt? Love when the "strategy" aspect of Real Time Strategy comes back into Starcraft instead of being an strict mechanics game

Nony outplayed the hell out of Idra, who was nervous the entire set, and choked. Hell, Nony should have won game 4 if he had just gotten a bunch of speedlots instead of DTs and hadn't made that bad attack. Game 5, he came out with an unorthodox build and just bowled Idra over.


Idra talked shit, got outplayed, and now he'll probably cry about it in another interview and we'll have some more great quotes for the Strip Idra game.


This
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1810
I feel the same way here that I do about Flash vs Jaedong.

Flash is the overall better player, Jaedong outprepared him. If you really think everytime someone loses a game then they are a worse player than the player who beat them you are fucking stupid.

Therefore:

HyuN > Flash
Sen > Ret
frOzean > Bisu

etc.

NonY prepared beautifully. IdrA knows NonY is comfortable in macro games and that's what he prepared for, NonY countered that thought and did the exact opposite of what IdrA expected. Reminds me a bit of Flash vs Stork in Bacchus 2008 where Stork prepared for the Flash style build and Flash just did an all-in every game and raped Stork.

IdrA completely outclasses NonY in mechanics/multitask/macro/micro but he just wasn't prepared.

I'm not shitting on NonY or his accomplishments. It's a beautiful thing to see this level of preparation and I really like that kind of stuff.
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Barfboy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada193 Posts
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1811
Very entertaining series with the misclick, dc, and proxies from Nony. I really hope its gonna be him against Mondragon in the finals, though i feel bad for Idra, cuz he is definitely gonna get a lot of shit from this series.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1812
Ignore DoctorHelvetica, he's the noob who thinks that when someone doesn't like TvT, he knows nothing about Starcraft.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 23:12:14
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1813
On February 15 2010 08:08 SuperArc wrote:
People laughing at Idra for losing even though he's practicing with Koreans need to look at the bigger picture.

Idra lost BECAUSE he's training with Koreans. No Korean would expect proxy gates against a rax expand, because its unimaginable. (all-ins are so rare apart from WL).

I suggest you hide that CJ tag in the corner before you post such hilarious things.

Idra's just soooo good that he's too good and thus falls for "foreigner" tricks. That's the power of denial.
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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
February 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#1814
On February 15 2010 08:01 4Servy wrote:
All dumbass fanboys can say no skilled players and blablabla, but the 4 players left here are probably the best foreingers overtime (excluding draco).


JF is inactive. Mondragon has terrible mechanics and obsolete play. Sen, no one really knows. And I bet Nony's game is also shaky. Yeah, P is easy but at higher levels not that easy.

JF and Mondragon can't touch Idra. Nony won because Idra canceled his CC. All solid players are already out of the tournament. Sen didn't show any high level skill so far. Sen seems to have won vs Ret on mindgames only.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 14 2010 23:11 GMT
#1815
Nony plays with strategy...builds, counter-builds, mentally controlling the game. If Nony just did standard play every game Idra would have a much better chance at winning. But StarCraft ain't about standard play, it's about winning, and Nony came up with the best way of doing that.

Congrats on making it to the semi-finals Nony and good luck!
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 23:12:07
February 14 2010 23:11 GMT
#1816
On February 15 2010 08:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I feel the same way here that I do about Flash vs Jaedong.

Flash is the overall better player, Jaedong outprepared him. If you really think everytime someone loses a game then they are a worse player than the player who beat them you are fucking stupid.

Therefore:

HyuN > Flash
Sen > Ret
frOzean > Bisu

etc.

NonY prepared beautifully. IdrA knows NonY is comfortable in macro games and that's what he prepared for, NonY countered that thought and did the exact opposite of what IdrA expected. Reminds me a bit of Flash vs Stork in Bacchus 2008 where Stork prepared for the Flash style build and Flash just did an all-in every game and raped Stork.

IdrA completely outclasses NonY in mechanics/multitask/macro/micro but he just wasn't prepared.

I'm not shitting on NonY or his accomplishments. It's a beautiful thing to see this level of preparation and I really like that kind of stuff.

you say that idra completely outclasses nony in mechanics (micro) but his three losses today prove otherwise
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 23:12 GMT
#1817
On February 15 2010 08:10 HazMat wrote:
Ignore DoctorHelvetica, he's the noob who thinks that when someone doesn't like TvT, he knows nothing about Starcraft.


I don't think that. I think a lot of people who hate TvT just don't understand the match-up but I've always thought that a TvT versus bad/mediocre players is fucking terrible to watch.

Don't assume you know what I think
RIP Aaliyah
shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
February 14 2010 23:12 GMT
#1818
In skills, yeah, IdrA > NonY. He probably has better macro, better mid to late game decision making, etc. (albeit, probably not by THAT much)

But NonY won, with a combination of mistakes, greediness, and all-ins....he still won. Shit happens, go NonY
bengaliToss ftw...
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
February 14 2010 23:13 GMT
#1819
lol nony is such a sick sick man, he didnt give a shit about anything apart from winning those games

he played to his strenght and to idras biggest weakness, loved it and much respect to nony
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getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
February 14 2010 23:13 GMT
#1820
On February 15 2010 08:08 SuperArc wrote:
People laughing at Idra for losing even though he's practicing with Koreans need to look at the bigger picture.

Idra lost BECAUSE he's training with Koreans. No Korean would expect proxy gates against a rax expand, because its unimaginable. (all-ins are so rare apart from WL).


I'm pretty sure Koreans don't practice Terran FEs by cancelling the command center.

In Nony's postmatch interview, he explained that he practiced the proxy gates to counter rax FE on ICCUP and it worked well repeatedly. It's not like foreigners who train with other foreigners would be able to have saved game 5 any better than a Korean could.
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