On February 14 2010 05:51 s.a.y wrote:
that was the 1000 USD strategy
that was the 1000 USD strategy
not building anything is the absolute top of the metagame
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[NyC]HoBbes
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On February 14 2010 05:51 s.a.y wrote: that was the 1000 USD strategy not building anything is the absolute top of the metagame | ||
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On February 14 2010 05:51 samachking wrote: Woah Insane build from fenix, goli/vulture is really strong on desti when Zerg doesnt get ovie speed. good point - even seeing the mines very early in the game, I never saw fast ovies | ||
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g but we dont se the second one | ||
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Islandsnake
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On February 14 2010 05:51 Jyvblamo wrote: Fenix is halfway between other terrans and Idra. Only types 1 g. +1 | ||
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On February 14 2010 05:40 Mystlord wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2010 05:31 samachking wrote: On February 14 2010 05:27 Mystlord wrote: On February 14 2010 05:23 OneOther wrote: On February 14 2010 05:22 Mystlord wrote: And thus we see the problem of living in Korea and practicing with progamers, then coming back to the foreign scene: The Koreans only do ONE. THING. Nothing else. ret has had absolutely no practice against such aggression and such unorthodox play. Koreans have like this unspoken agreement to do certain things, but once you step out of that realm... You better learn to get versatile again. is this really true? i mean i think it's more of ret's style and preference. korean zvzs are progamer level and semi-pro/amateur are filled with zergling aggressions all the time. i don't agree that korean zergs all play the way ret does. When you watch Korean progamers, I've never seen such aggressive Zergling attacks from any Korean progamer. They never remove Drones from gas, and once the Spire finishes, it's all Mutalisks from there. You might see a lot of Zerglings when they do 12 pool or 12 hatch, but it's different. On February 14 2010 05:23 Aphasie wrote: On February 14 2010 05:15 Harem wrote: On February 14 2010 05:13 disco wrote: Since when did ret's zergling micro get bad Sen had speed. Ret didn't. That's a pretty big difference. Yeah, i noticed that too. Weird chill/day9 didnt see that. And even more weird that Ret didnt finish it in time. Whats the point in having 20 lings vs 20 lings if one group doesnt have speed... You "cant" win anyway You don't need speed if you're being defensive. JD did it vs Savior in WL finals, you can do it when the ovie leaves your main after he sees the spire. Also heavy speedling is standard when both players 12hat infact if you check a lot of games on python they end up mostly to be ling vs ling battles and most 12hat vs 12hat are pure ling into muta, you dont build drones. Also effort played the same style as sen last season which became really popular, except he built spores after the ling harass. But you see, that's map conducive. ret's been in Korea for the past 3 months playing Fighting Spirit, Neo Moon Glaive, and Heartbreak Ridge. Those maps have certain styles associated with them. Effort's play last season was on the relatively same maps that are used in the TSL (Desti, Outsider, Andro), which are certainly conducive to ling play (well, not Desti and not Outsider to a certain extent). Anyway, the point that I'm trying to make here is that on the maps that ret's playing on, there's a certain play style associated with them that ret has just no practice with because hasn't had too much time with. Err, heavy ling play is really nice on Moon and is more standard. If you want progame examples then effort vs hyuk and jd vs roro. | ||
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ahh, there's the 12hatch is that building a 2nd rax? | ||
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zerglings kill all the rines | ||
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