EPT[SWL] Woongjin vs Oz - Page 31
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:41 Frenzied_Tank wrote: Its kinda funny how they dont seem to know how to advance from early game to mid or late game since no matches last any longer lol, go keep spamm muta ftw, outnumbering skill > mid/late game Actually, plenty of zerg players tech to hive-tech in longer ZvZs. Jaedong was severely behind in mutas because of the cancelled spire and the drone-hunt, as a result, he was spending all of his resources on 1. spores 2. upgrades 3. more mutas JD never had the resources to tech to Hive. If he were to make the transition, he'd most certainly get overrun by Zero's muta balls. Zero probably did have the resources, but he probably did not feel it was necessary because he was ahead in muta count and upgrades (i.e. his finished earlier) the entire game. All he had to do was match JD's production and he would have the game. And that's exactly what he did. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:55 CorsairHero wrote: probably because the op copied another thread and forgot to change the links Bingo... also sometimes when I make threads since free doesn't tlpd'ize I just make up the player he goes to. 99% of the time people don't notice | ||
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Katkishka
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integral
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
muta will massacre them | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Frenzied_Tank
Germany100 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:57 Cambium wrote: Actually, plenty of zerg players tech to hive-tech in longer ZvZs. Jaedong was severely behind in mutas because of the cancelled spire and the drone-hunt, as a result, he was spending all of his resources on 1. spores 2. upgrades 3. more mutas JD never had the resources to tech to Hive. If he were to make the transition, he'd most certainly get overrun by Zero's muta balls. Zero probably did have the resources, but he probably did not feel it was necessary because he was ahead in muta count and upgrades (i.e. his finished earlier) the entire game. All he had to do was match JD's production and he would have the game. And that's exactly what he did. thanks, best answer so far, its just so rare that i had to assume that they just dont know how to get out of muta state | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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okum
France5779 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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meeple
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:59 meeple wrote: Looks like Lomo has abandoned the wraith production for now... switching to mnm Well so far all he has is m | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Redshirt
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:47 lazz wrote: LOL. they dont do anything other than spam mutas cos if they divert even 200 gas to queens nest or whatever bullshit it means their opponent will have 2 more mutas than them, which is HUGE in ZvZ Nest = 150 min 100 gas Ensnare = 100 min 100 gas 1 Queen = 100 min 100 gas So you are down 3 mutaslisks with these upgrades. It is not a matter of how huge a difference it is in mutalisks. What matters is what you get out of your investment. Ensnare slows unit rate fire down by 18%. Given mathmatical fractions, it is probably around 2/11 or 1/6. Anyways, that means mutalisks rate of fire is down to 4/5 of it original rate if we round up to 20%, just ot make things easy. That means, if you are planning on using ensnare only once, which given the time it takes to recharge, you will only have time to use it once, ensnare has to catch at least 15 mutalisks to you 12 to make everything even out. If the numbers go up, for example, you get 24 mutalisks, (2 control groups) while you fight with 21 mutas, then you have the advantage. Of course, that is why it is a good idea not to clump your mutas at that point in battle. As long as you do that, you are ensnare saef, which is what I think we saw in JD vs Zero. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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meeple
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